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#21 2019-12-26 23:19:18

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Re: Lithium test iso available

FWIW The live iso fails to boot on my Dell i5 Gen10 Intel chipset.  It seems to die when attempting to load lightdm.  The following are the particulars on my machine albeit running a special Debian version of MXLinux.  Thus far all Debian-based distros seem to dislike my Intel Gen10 chipset.

System:    Host: mark-inspiron Kernel: 5.3.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.3.0-2-amd64 
           root=UUID=60dac46d-5e46-4db0-a5d7-c89cfacc4bfd ro quiet hush 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5493 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0M4FW1 v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.3.0 date: 10/24/2019 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 39.9 Wh condition: 39.9/42.0 Wh (95%) volts: 13.0/11.4 
           model: BYD DELL 1VX1H9A type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-1035G1 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ice Lake 
           family: 6 model-id: 7E (126) stepping: 5 microcode: 48 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19046 
           Speed: 1113 MHz min/max: 400/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 924 2: 1502 3: 1301 
           4: 1180 5: 1482 6: 1505 7: 1465 8: 1089 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:8a56 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (Ice Lake 4x8 GT1) v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.1 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 
           chip ID: 8086:34c8 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Dell RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:8136 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Dell 
           driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0042 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-10:5 chip ID: 0cf3:e009 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 467.84 GiB (49.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Silicon Power model: SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD size: 953.87 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: ECFM22.5 scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 41.13 GiB size: 40.24 GiB (97.82%) used: 14.11 GiB (35.1%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 9.15 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 68.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2595 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/buster/ buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:Head_on_a_Stick:Picom.list 
           1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Head_on_a_Stick:/Picom/Debian_10/ /
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           3: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           4: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           5: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           6: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           7: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           8: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           9: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           10: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           11: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
           1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:      Processes: 251 Uptime: 3m Memory: 23.33 GiB used: 1.58 GiB (6.8%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

Edit: Debian 10.2 also dies on the table of Intel Gen10 core i5.

Last edited by manyroads (2019-12-26 23:56:57)


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#22 2019-12-28 14:44:29

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Hi everyone,

I managed to install it and it's working well (so far). I've installed mpv, the console media player,and am currently listening to a 320kbps stream for a BBC radio station (Radio 2), and have changed the conky configuration to a more generic one.

I'd like to add some more typefaces to use in word processors such as LibreOffice Writer, but that probably belongs elsewhere on the forum

The computer spec is this; Packard Bell iMedia 6020 (from 2006) with an AMD Athlon 3800+ CPU (single core), 4 GB of RAM and a 250 GB hard drive.

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#23 2019-12-30 00:50:49

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Re: Lithium test iso available

@El Capitain con Panic, thanks for the feedback!

Please report if you have any issues, especially a kernel panic. *smirk*

Sorry, dad joke in full effect.


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#24 2020-01-05 00:08:25

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Re: Lithium test iso available

rbh wrote:

Command "bl-xdg-autostart --list | more" gives some error and no list.

I don't see that. The next line in my output is "User folders update" - have you made any changes since installing?

EDIT: I see from your other post that you have upgraded from a previous install, not a fresh iso.

Last edited by damo (2020-01-05 00:10:53)


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#25 2020-01-06 00:13:31

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Re: Lithium test iso available

^ In fact, I don't think anyone has tested the upgrade from helium to lithium in quite some time, this thread and the related ones are now a year old...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=81524

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=5547

Here are the posts regarding my upgrade, which is still my primary partition. Start here and keep reading the thread...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 542#p81542


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#26 2020-01-07 18:08:44

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Hi, two things - when do we expect Lithium to be a stable release?
Second - if I use test now and then want to seamlessly migrate into the stable, how much of PITA will it be?

Thanks.

PS. I'm moving back to BL... Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in!

Edit. I am unable to download the iso. Getting chromium rn and I'll try on Windows as well. If all fails I'm going Helium and hey ho!

Edit2. Downloading, gonna slap it on my ThinkPad T470 in a bit and will commence thorough (just kidding, I'm a noob!) testing.

Last edited by cherkie (2020-01-07 18:22:03)


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#27 2020-01-07 18:34:12

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Re: Lithium test iso available

cherkie wrote:

if I use test now and then want to seamlessly migrate into the stable, how much of PITA will it be?

The only thing you will need to do is to change repository. Eventualy investigate new usersettings for default user in /usr/share/bunsen/skel.

"PITA" what does that means?


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#28 2020-01-07 19:27:02

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Pain
In
The
Arse

Thanks for the reply though!


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#29 2020-01-07 19:55:59

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Lithium is Debian Stable (Buster). Helium is now old-stable.

NB The default user session is now bl-session, which does not use the Openbox rc.xml and menu.xml. They are still available though,


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#30 2020-01-08 04:01:28

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Re: Lithium test iso available

But Lithium is still Bunsenlab dev. Its not yet stable bunsen...


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#31 2020-01-08 06:50:39

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Alright, alright, let's not get bogged down with technicalities. It's installed and working, now to find my old BL configs

And that's the lspci on my thinkpad t470.

albert@albertbl:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 08)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 520 (rev 07)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21)
00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)
00:16.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Active Management Technology - SOL (rev 21)
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 21)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port (rev f1)
00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #7 (rev f1)
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f1)
00:1d.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d1a (rev f1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller (rev 21)
00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)
00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I219-LM (rev 21)
04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a)
3e:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Toshiba America Info Systems XG4 NVMe SSD Controller (rev 01)

Last edited by cherkie (2020-01-08 06:53:21)


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#32 2020-01-09 01:25:40

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Re: Lithium test iso available

rbh wrote:

But Lithium is still Bunsenlab dev. It's not yet stable bunsen...

True. But trust me, if there isn't some weird quirk going on, lithium's stable. We haven't had any major bug reports, and its first boot after installation is way faster than the boot-glich that made helium's first boot a little weird. The login to the default bl-session is smoother, the root menu is better, the themes are better (cough, YMMV), the session options are 100% improved (1+1=2, bl-openbox or close to default Debian openbox *close not cloze, English you suck. YOU'RE TWO DIFFERENT WORDS WITH DIFFERENT PRONUNCIATIONS AND MEANINGS BUT YOU'RE BOTH SPELLED CLOSE, GAAAAA!!! USE A FLIPPING Z, I MEAN ZED! GAAAAA FREAKING aMERicaNZ and bRiTZZZ. BONNET! HOOD! LIFT! ELEVATOR! LAWYER! SOLICITOR! GAAAAAAAA!!!! sorry, moving on* = 100% improvement!), the packages are newer... That's a very incomplete list, but I'd say that this ISO is objectively better than amd64-helium.

Let's call it "The most current stable LIVE-ISO (currently only amd64) release of BL, and the first based on Debian 10."

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#33 2020-01-09 05:07:53

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Re: Lithium test iso available

hhh wrote:

lithium's stable.[...] this ISO is objectively better than amd64-helium.

Yes, Lithium dev is in practise very nice and stable. I prefer it on productive pc.


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#34 2020-02-03 08:58:50

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Re: Lithium test iso available

The lithium iso on a flash stick, when at live login, a username and password are required. Everhow, 'user' and 'live', uggested for helium version, return error message. Any advice?

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#35 2020-02-03 12:24:41

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Re: Lithium test iso available

matollik wrote:

The lithium iso on a flash stick, when at live login, a username and password are required. Everhow, 'user' and 'live', uggested for helium version, return error message. Any advice?

If you choose live session, you shuld be automaticley logged in. If not, something is wrong.
If you have choosed to log out and want to log in again, use:

username: user
passsword: live

Last edited by rbh (2020-02-03 12:25:47)


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#36 2020-02-04 10:17:13

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Re: Lithium test iso available

^Thank you for advice, No success though, the same login error persists. Even after a reinstallment of the iso file, now twice.
The  usb  stick should be healthy.
Previously no problems of same kind with any of bl versions  or  other  debian distros.

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#37 2020-02-04 13:55:03

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Re: Lithium test iso available

matollik wrote:

the same login error persists. Even after a reinstallment of the iso file

You are not supposed to install the iso to the usb-key (it is possible to do), you are suposed to write the iso to the key.
You are suposed to write it with "cp" or "dd". Have done so? The exact command?

The  usb  stick should be healthy.
Previously no problems of same kind with any of bl versions  or  other  debian distros.

You can boot to the installer and abort before writing changes to your hd?
When you have booted to the live session, can you change to tty 1/2/3... and login to the CLI?
(Press Ctrl+Alt+1..)
When you try to login graphical what erorr du you get??

Have you tried to write Helium iso and boot Helium live session?
What does command

 # lsblk -f 

return for info about your key?

No one else has reported your problem. It does not seems to be an lithium bug...

Last edited by rbh (2020-02-04 14:02:47)


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#38 2020-02-10 07:55:08

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Re: Lithium test iso available

@rbh Success, not a login problem anymore. Etcher helped to write the iso - as well as cp - on a memory stick. Dd is not familiar to me, man 'advice' not very helpful..

I now answer via Firefox and the lithium iso installed on a 32G flash stick, as the best option for me.

Many thanks, much to think about in your latest answer for a linux nonexpert. At lot to learn about cli(?)or command line practises in linux os.

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#39 2020-02-10 21:00:07

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Excellent job with the development, guys!

I've tested the experimental ISO in VirtualBox, and it looks and runs great.

I have a question though: When Lithium is officially released, will we be able to simply update our sources.list/sources.list.d and do upgrade/dist-upgrade? I'm guessing that's how it works, because that's how all other Debian distros are upgraded. I just want to make sure=)

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#40 2020-02-11 00:52:26

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Re: Lithium test iso available

Yes!


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