Your views/experiences with web browsers fellow nixers ? :)

iMBeCil · 2019-02-11 15:31:50

brontosaurusrex wrote:

S7.L, I'am from now on. edit: Nope, back to https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/zero/

Why? Just curious ...

S7.L · 2019-02-11 15:39:39

^ i think i might know why, just tried accessing major pwn site with no issues, should be blocked on a hosts file like that.

ohnonot · 2019-02-11 19:04:55

i'm currently using these hosts lists:

# DEFAULT. Identitical to 'http://hosts-file.net/download/hosts.zip'
'http://support.it-mate.co.uk/downloads/HOSTS.txt'
# anti-ad and anti-malware list (winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm)
'http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.zip'
# anti-ad (pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/)
'http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/serverlist.php?hostformat=hosts&mimetype=plaintext'
# hpHosts main anti-ad and anti-malware (hosts-file.net/)
# Compressed version of 'http://support.it-mate.co.uk/downloads/HOSTS.txt'
'http://hosts-file.net/download/hosts.zip'
# anti-malware (www.malwaredomainlist.com/)
'http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/hosts.txt'
# anti-ads-only version of hpHosts main list (hosts-file.net)
'http://hosts-file.net/ad_servers.txt'
# hpHosts inter-release (hosts-file.net/)
'http://hosts-file.net/hphosts-partial.asp'
# anti-malware (hostsfile.org/hosts.html)
'http://hostsfile.org/Downloads/BadHosts.unx.zip'
# anti-ad (hostsfile.mine.nu)
'http://hostsfile.mine.nu/Hosts.zip'
# anti-ad (sysctl.org/cameleon/)
'http://sysctl.org/cameleon/hosts'
# To Completely Block Facebook
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jmdugan/blocklists/master/corporations/facebook/all

my hostsblock program filters duplicates out and compiles them to:

wc -l /etc/hosts
933387 /etc/hosts

Döbbie03 · 2019-02-12 05:04:19

Last night for the first time ever, my Linux install is Firefox free. I have moved over to Qutebrowser 100%.

Nili · 2019-02-14 11:15:28

Pale Moon recently have Photonic theme support.

With the release of Firefox 57 came Quantum and the new "Photon" default theme. Now, this is on Pale Moon!
forum.palemoon.org

I tried and felt a part of Firefox Quantum, Who uses this browser, make sure to check this theme. It looks good.

Last edited by Nili (2019-02-14 11:18:45)

THX1138 · 2019-02-14 14:11:26

Lost my love affair with chromium ungoogled, it started acting up after a while and I switched back to FFox, but searching for a security focused browser (only cos I'm a bit of a paranoid android about security)
In the meantime I intend to try Nili's suggestion of palemoon

Martin · 2019-03-26 20:21:53

Anyone with experience of the Epic Privacy Browser?

Edit: I just realised Epic is not for *nix.

It was mentioned in a usenet forum thread discussing this online article. The poster mentioneing Epic stated this article was good only for the really uninitiated and went on mentioning things and SW omitted. He claimed Opera and above all Epic were better at privacy than the browsers listed in the article.

Your thougths on this?

/Martin

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glittersloth · 2019-03-26 22:07:50

^ Never heard of it. I tend to be skeptical of any service providing a free VPN or proxy.
Also, while I agree with that usenet forum poster on FastCompany (and it's related sister publications) not being an authority on matters pertaining to privacy or security, I wouldn't put much trust in modern day Opera.

Edit:
Then again, I have a habit of being negative for the sake of negativity, so maybe this newfangled browser is truly the best thing since bubblewrap and I'm losing out. I'll just blame society if that ends up being the case.

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hhh · 2019-03-26 23:50:45

glittersloth wrote:

I'll just blame society if that ends up being the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo (comedy fake gore nsfw)

glittersloth · 2019-03-27 00:00:57

... speaking of repossessions, has a general consensus on Librefox been made yet, or is it still too early to judge?

Döbbie03 · 2019-03-27 04:03:47

glittersloth wrote:

... speaking of repossessions, has a general consensus on Librefox been made yet, or is it still too early to judge?

That looks interesting, I might need to spend some time with this.

ohnonot · 2019-03-28 07:16:04

glittersloth wrote:

... speaking of repossessions, has a general consensus on Librefox been made yet, or is it still too early to judge?

afaiu, in its current incarnation, just a set of default permissions.
nothing very spectacular.
at least they're upfront about it in the readme.

Interesting on archlinux:
there's an AUR package that can be installed system-wide and interacts with an existing vanilla firefox installation.

I...

installed it
removed the ~/.mozilla/firefox folder

And now on startup, firefox has the exact settings that are always the first thing i change on a new firefox install. Plus the really evil stuff is greyed out, i.e. cannot be changed. Handy.

BLizgreat! · 2019-11-13 19:39:12

Been awhile fellows, thanks for any good adds and now need some testers eh.

Ok, random stuff, mentioned in another thread Firefox (from Mozilla) and firefox-esr from repo's now comes with 8 content processes (e10's) default. Feel this is much too high and tend to go with 1 per/core on a system. Whatcha guys think ?

Next up, an oldie about:config tweak I'd long used but quit bothering with many of these with newer versions of FF. Of course type about:config in FF's address bar, then search for this puppy ...

network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server

I tend to jack this up to 8-10 (default now is 6), though never more than 10 or consider such a user as being an azzhatish type.

Next up in FF randomness, more about:config junk. Are times when someone wants "the facts, just the facts ma'am" Such as when on a slow connection, or say a mobile hotspot where bandwidth is limited/expensive. The following is supposed to prevent FF from dl'ing images. Thus should speed things up and save someone on BW. It's ...

permissions.default.image

Default = 1 (normal show images.)
Set this to 2 and it disables displaying images. Though have as yet even bothered confirming it doesn't download the things. If not this is stupid and pointless. Anyway, if anyone feels like applying these puppies and checking out impact on browsing speed, please report back for everyone's benefit. Easy enough to reset them to defaults anyway. Thanks fellow nixers. Have reached my post limit, errrrr about 20 posts ago. Bbl fellas.

Inevitable babbling edits: Or someone can take the cautious road, probably best ... and setup a fresh profile to dork with. Of course also found this thing. Some of those had long used, some find interesting. The disabling tabs animations thing and getting rid of the add-on delay junk.

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MALsPa · 2019-11-13 20:23:09

Video/media autoplay in Firefox, my biggest pet peeve. They don't make it so easy to shut down, and it seems like the way to shut it down changes from one version to the next.

BLizgreat! · 2019-11-13 22:05:10

Heya MALsPA, hope you're doing well man.

Sheesh am on a friggin spree fellows ! Anyway had to double bk of course and add a misc thought to this. One of the awesome things about tech and computers, it's all 100% fact based. Pretty much anything and everything can be tested. Based on hardcore indisputable metrics, so reasonably done it's not a case of I think FF-etc is faster after I fiddle with this, I KNOW IT IS. Because I reviewed webpg load times before/after xyz-dorking. FF and Chrome/ium as well actually have built in tools for this type of thing already.

ie: For FF, right click on a webpg, select "inspect element", then network, this page says

2 requests 63.21 KB / 0 B transferred Finish: 23 ms

So if I fiddle with something and keep on re-testing, load time goes up afterwards well then I know, goes down etc. Though of course such testing has to be done somewhat competently blahblah. Clearing caches or whatnot. Before/after I (dis)-enable noscript etc etc. You guys know what I'm saying but being anal and saying-typing it anyways.

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BLizgreat! · 2019-11-14 11:16:39

Something else FF related fellows.

When the noscript add-on is running, have been getting failed webpg download, go to save something and it fails, retry = succeeds and does so the first time if noscript is disabled at the time. Has anyone else been seeing this ? Can be very aggravating and in ways am starting to think noscript is getting too big for it's britches. Starting to get the compulsion to find an alternative approach to it, though it's still an almost must have add-on in my view. The added security of preventing javascripts from running on websites and whatever system overhead (mem/cpu, also hopefully speed)not running that .js provides. May explore ways to do what it does via script or about:config fiddling or whatever.

Was also going to gripe about the check box to disable 3rd party cookies having been removed but found this. So hasn't been removed, just reconfigured eh.

Edit: Dang it, there for a sec thought I might actually have a post w/o the BLizgreat! last edit @ blahblahblah time. Need to go back through and read up on what all you guys have said, this puppy blew up (43k views)! Which is good, nixers will never get tired of web-browser related stuff. Rolling up sleeves, preparing to read. Cover me am going in !

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BLizgreat! · 2019-11-14 12:30:04

Ye gawds !!! Lol, sheesh need to reread this whole thing, from a nixer user-named Martix on pg12, found his mention of typing "about:about" in the FF address bar !!! Yowza, look at em all !!! Wth ?!?!? Here comes the edit (down there. ): This type of junk is why I wuv Mozilla/FF, so much stuff a person can fiddle with and tweak !

Nother one, @brontosaurusrex pg13, post #315 LMAO !!! . Not going to keep at this mentioning stuff, too many. Dang the nixers here really stepped up to the plate on this one ! Thing is full of useful, interesting ... cool and/or just outright weird web-browserage stuff ! Yep, gotta reread the thing.

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BLizgreat! · 2019-11-14 14:26:40

Warning to a degree hypocritical, self-righteous post(semi rant) follows.

One thing about being an end-user of whichever open source proj. Specifically by way of example, Mozilla/Firefox in this case. You'll see people endlessly griping about ads or revenue agreements with Google Inc, data collection, regardless of what it's intended to be used for. Such data can actually be very valuable in improving performance, quality, security etc for a project like Firefox. Without it, does leave the developers guessing vs hard data for them to review and use to make refinements + improve the things overall.

Anyway, getting back to the main babble point I'm intending to make here. Open source ISN'T free, not for the devs and maintainers. Yes they have to eat, yes they have to pay their bills. Try telling the electric company, hey I'm going to pay ya guys with good intentions. Gonna pay by making the web a more open and better place for all of humanity, YAY ! Power-guy, errrr, mmmm, yeah, that's great (flips the switch to cut off the power.) Call us when you got cash and we'll come back out and turn this back on ... ok ?

They do need $ and material resources. Sheesh Bunsenlabs no doubt can do with some of the green stuff. People use and want great software, they demand it in fact. However for an endless number of projs out there, the people who do it, do the work and have the skills, like the rest of us only have 24hrs in a day and have to pay bills too. So they can't devote as much time and energy, whatever we get is a gift from them for whichever reasons. I mean Mozilla is a non-profit, has full time people who work on it for a living but they still all have bills to pay.

Imagine coming home, after 8-10hrs working. Sitdown in front of comp, fire that baby up and go to some distro or proj a person is volunteering time to. 3,230 users, hey why isn't this doing that, why isn't this thataway, this should be newer, change your logo I don't like it. Errrr imagine how you'd feel. Just saying, never given a dime to Mozilla, nor as yet even to a gnu/Nix distro I wuv either. Still been intending to do more to support them, financially, even if only passively. Clear xyz-home site in Adblocker, do a lil more to send bug reports ... that kind of thing. Though fairly soon going to go ahead and send in some $ too. Been using and enjoying the product of so many people's hard work for yrs. So hey, about time I buy somebody a damn beer or summin.

Free as in beer, in the real world, beer majority of the time isn't free. Just ask my older brother. Hey bro, long time no see ( I'm heading towards his liquor cabinet.) Errrr in this scenario beer, vodka, tequila, rum etc)is in fact free but sheesh, he still has to pay for it !

Shakez fist @nobody in particular and this was not aimed at anybody specifically either. Just a reminder blahblahblah kinda thing fellow nixers.

ohnonot · 2019-11-15 06:35:53

MALsPa wrote:

Video/media autoplay in Firefox, my biggest pet peeve. They don't make it so easy to shut down, and it seems like the way to shut it down changes from one version to the next.

I never have a problem with this, and never had.
Could you give me an example of a link that would trigger autoplay?

MALsPa · 2019-11-15 13:27:17

ohnonot wrote:

MALsPa wrote:
Video/media autoplay in Firefox, my biggest pet peeve. They don't make it so easy to shut down, and it seems like the way to shut it down changes from one version to the next.
I never have a problem with this, and never had.
Could you give me an example of a link that would trigger autoplay?

Really? For me, it happens at a lot of sites. First example that comes to mind is when I click on articles at espn dot com.

I use Firefox ESR from Debian Stable, and then right now I have FF 70.0.1 in Kubuntu and in Arch. First I go to Preferences > Privacy & Security > Permissions. The settings there will differ depending on the Firefox version. For example, in Kubuntu I see the Autoplay settings, and I have that set to "Block Audio and Video". But it doesn't really work.

So what ends up working for me is to go to about:config and fiddle with the media autoplay settings in there. The settings there differ depending on the Firefox version as well, but with a bit of tinkering I can always get the problem taken care of. But it's just an annoyance to have to do that.

Last edited by MALsPa (2019-11-15 13:27:36)

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