Carbon default wallpapers

hhh · 2025-11-15 20:53:46

Again, the thumbnail reveals all. More or less the same logo positioning works better for bark as well.

hhh · 2025-11-15 20:57:54

1280x1024 1440x900 1920x1080... Why are we doing this? Why not just 1920x1080, scaling down via the wallpaper setter (zoom setting or whatever it's called) should do fine.

johnraff · 2025-11-16 02:33:43

hhh wrote:

After looking at that thumbnail, I'm moving the logo to lower right.
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/d7/e0/XdvxEK9Z_t.png
Better, I think.

Agreed.

hhh · 2025-11-16 04:09:34

It's a start...

https://github.com/hhhorb/carbon-walls_hhh

johnraff · 2025-11-16 04:33:15

hhh wrote:

1280x1024 1440x900 1920x1080... Why are we doing this? Why not just 1920x1080, scaling down via the wallpaper setter (zoom setting or whatever it's called) should do fine.

Are those three all the same aspect ratio? That's the clincher I think.

We had a conversation with Bearded_Blunder in 2022 starting around here:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 19#p122119
And B_B's post here:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 10#p122310

First past the post, as the likeliest to be actually correct,1920x1080 wins, on the other hand, 1440x900 is the likeliest to still look OK if it's not right, including on 1920x1080 screens. 1280x1024 is basically there for old "square" monitors, where neither of the others really sit well.

I vote it gets the 1920X1080 (1080p) default 1440x900, and 1280x1024 (SXGA), since SXGA is a very strong possibility paired with 32bit hardware, & that works with plain SVGA, XGA, SXGA, and even UXGA which are all fairly likely to be what anything 32 bit was shipped with when new.

Found aspect ratios:
1920x1080 16:9
1440x900 8:5
1280x1024 5:4

AR calculator: https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculat … ulator.php
Common resolutions: https://www.browserstack.com/guide/comm … esolutions
(don't see 1280x1024 there)

If B_B is right, and 1280x1024 screens are mainly on 32bit machines, then that's a case for dropping it.
Or yes, drop 1440x900 too and ship only 1920x1080? Just have to test to make sure the logo is still visible when resizing for other screen sizes. Our default is --bg-fill in feh (because that corresponds to what lightdm does so you get a seamless login transition).

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BTW @micko01 if you're reading this, do you still get GitHub mail notifications? I posted a small PR to make "fill" the default with xwwall: https://github.com/BunsenLabs/xwwall/pull/1 Even without that we'll still ship our default ~/.fehbg using '--bg-fill' so it's not a big issue at all.

johnraff · 2025-11-16 04:47:11

johnraff wrote:

Or yes, drop 1440x900 too and ship only 1920x1080? Just have to test to make sure the logo is still visible when resizing for other screen sizes.

So here (ignore the misplaced conky) you can see that when resized to 1440x900 with 'fill', then the 1920x1080 logo is right on the right hand edge of the screen. To cope with less wide aspect ratios, move it to the left a bit?

If we did that, (sage too ofc) then I guess we could get away with shipping 1920x1080 only.

johnraff · 2025-11-16 05:01:49

I moved the previous wallpaper posts here from the "iso" thread. https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 57#p147057

johnraff · 2025-11-29 00:51:34

hhh wrote:

The other ratios, 1280x1024, 1440x900 and 1920x1080. With and without logos.

Sure, that's fine here if it's cool with you. It will mean the logo can be optimally placed for each aspect ratio.

We could consider putting only 1920x1080 (4 variants) in bunsen-images-base, and the other resolutions in bunsen-images?
Or ...possibly... 1440x900 instead of 1920x1080 in -base?

hhh · 2025-12-04 00:20:26

I've added the scaled and cropped resolutions for Bark to the repo, if these are good I can do Sage easily.

https://github.com/hhhorb/carbon-walls_hhh

PackRat · 2025-12-04 01:04:34

^ Look good on my end. Tested the 1920x1080 and 1440x900.

hhh · 2025-12-04 01:05:36

Right, I'll do the rest.

-edit- Done, check the repo.

PackRat · 2025-12-04 01:25:55

^ Well done. Sage images look good, too.

hhh · 2025-12-04 01:52:49

^ Thanks, and thanks for verifying.

johnraff · 2025-12-04 05:44:48

Cloned the git repo, and looks good. Thanks @hhh!

So, I'll put sage-logo_1440x900.png and bark-logo_1440x900.png in bunsen-images-base and the others in bunsen-images?

Or would you rather up the default resolution to 1920x1080?

(bunsen-images-base is meant to be the minimum needed for a BL desktop. The full bunsen-images set will be included in the iso.)

hhh · 2025-12-04 16:51:21

^ Split them off as you see fit. My preference would be to put the alternate resolutions in an extra package so the base wall set doesn't have repetitions, but I'm flexible.

1980x1080 is my laptop's resolution, so of course I'll lean toward it, but any res is fine.

61, I can still touch my toes.

Last edited by hhh (2025-12-04 21:39:31)

johnraff · 2025-12-05 01:46:04

On Boron it's like this:
bunsen-images-base: the two default wallpaper designs, three resolutions, with/without logo, so 12 variants
bunsen-images: all the other currently meaningful images (not including what's in -base)

bunsen-images depends on bunsen-images-base so there's no repetition.

What I'm suggesting for Carbon though, is for base to hold only one resolution of Sage and Bark, logo version only, ie 2 variants, and the rest in bunsen-images. So "base" is just the minimum for a desktop. Regular BL installs will still get all the wallpapers.

Default resolution in Boron is 1440x900 because that was thought to be the one that would look at least OK for the greatest number of people.

But hardware moves on - are wide displays becoming the norm now? If so, we could move to 1980x1080 for default.

I think I was able to touch my toes for a couple of years in my mid-twenties.

hhh · 2025-12-05 02:19:32

johnraff wrote:

What I'm suggesting for Carbon though, is for base to hold only one resolution of Sage and Bark, logo version only, ie 2 variants, and the rest in bunsen-images. So "base" is just the minimum for a desktop. Regular BL installs will still get all the wallpapers.

Yes, great, this is the way, all that.

It's not hard, you go by stages. Stand up. Look down at your toes, hello toes! Slowly start slouching towards the toes. Technique is not important, what's important is your goal... your own toes. Flop on the floor and grab them if you have to, because that's not the hard part.

Now that you are near your toes, you have to stand there and hang, hang until your shoulders relax and droop and your legs are straight and you are bent at the hip looking at your toes, relaxed neck and everything.

Then roll your spine up slowly, while pushing your hips out and breathing. It's the best I can explain it, if you do it right your shoulders relax and your head just kind of rolls into place at the end.

johnraff · 2025-12-08 05:22:50

OK bunsen-images and bunsen-images-base 13.3-1, and bunsen-images-archives 13.1-1 have been built and uploaded to Carbon.

hhh · 2025-12-08 19:39:10

Sweet.

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Re: Carbon default wallpapers

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