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hhh

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

^That looks quite nice in fact.
And the inline systray makes sense there, where there's more horizontal space and less vertical.

I'll have to look up how to export the config, I forgot. Some profile manager, if I recall correctly.

-edit- Thank goodness, I still have half my mind left...

https://packages.debian.org/trixie/xfce4-panel-profiles

Last edited by hhh (2025-10-09 20:53:42)

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johnraff

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

^Yeah I think xfce4-panel-profiles is in the "full" install list, so we can ship vert and horiz variants easily.

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johnraff

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

You clicked the file, and nothing happened at all? There's something wrong there...

No.
A prompt appeared asking me to select which application should open the file.

Before doing a fresh iso build, or even a fresh install (both time-consuming) I had another thought. Maybe it would help to know what your system thought about that "text" file.

If it's still available, could you post the output of:

file <path to the text file>
# and
file --mime <path to the text file>

Thanks!

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unklar

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

You clicked the file, and nothing happened at all? There's something wrong there...

No.
A prompt appeared asking me to select which application should open the file.

Before doing a fresh iso build, or even a fresh install (both time-consuming) I had another thought. Maybe it would help to know what your system thought about that "text" file.

If it's still available, could you post the output of:

file <path to the text file>
# and
file --mime <path to the text file>

Thanks!

I'll check...

Edit: Unfortunately, no.

Last edited by unklar (2025-10-11 10:52:04)

johnraff

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

^Oh dear. Then I don't think there's any way of getting to the bottom of it. Until a similar issue comes up...

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unklar

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

^Oh dear. Then I don't think there's any way of getting to the bottom of it. Until a similar issue comes up...

I did a second installation on the same computer.
The result:

file ~/Documents/derTEST
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST: empty

file --mime ~/Documents/derTEST
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST: inode/x-empty; charset=binary

file ~/Documents/derTEST.txt
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST.txt: empty

file --mime ~/Documents/derTEST.txt
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST.txt: inode/x-empty; charset=binary

The files are still empty. Hopefully this helps you. 

Edit:
derTEST
was created by right-clicking in Thunar.

derTEST.txt
was created with ‘touch...’ in the terminal.

Last edited by unklar (2025-10-12 08:05:10)

micko01

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

I just installed on my old, quite capable dell laptop. All good

One minor nitpick is that we could do without the PAE check in the welcome script as (unfortunately) we are 64bit only now.

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echo '#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main() { printf("Hi, bunsenlabs\\n"); return; }' > bunsen.c
gcc bunsen.c -o bunsen
./bunsen

johnraff

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

file ~/Documents/derTEST
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST: empty

file --mime ~/Documents/derTEST
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST: inode/x-empty; charset=binary

file ~/Documents/derTEST.txt
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST.txt: empty

file --mime ~/Documents/derTEST.txt
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST.txt: inode/x-empty; charset=binary

Thanks - I think that clears it up. There is no issue. Linux systems ignore filename extensions like .txt (although some applications do take them into account) and determine the file type by looking at its contents. So an empty file cannot be detected as a text file - or an audio file or anything - whatever its name is. If you click on a file in Thunar then the mime-type (in this case inode/x-empty; charset=binary) is checked against ~/.config/mimeapps.list and because there is no application registered it asks you what to do. I think that's the correct behaviour.

If you already have a text editor open then you can ask it to open eg /home/unklar/Documents/derTEST and it will treat it as a text file. If the file doesn't exist it will probably create it. But if you don't save any content, I think the file will remain an empty inode.

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johnraff

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

One minor nitpick is that we could do without the PAE check in the welcome script as (unfortunately) we are 64bit only now.

Good point. All 64bit processors will be regarded as PAE-supporting by the script and the message is meaningless. It does no harm, but I'll take the test out of bl-welcome.

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unklar

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Re: Carbon alpha iso available for testing

file ~/Documents/derTEST
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST: empty

file --mime ~/Documents/derTEST
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST: inode/x-empty; charset=binary

file ~/Documents/derTEST.txt
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST.txt: empty

file --mime ~/Documents/derTEST.txt
/home/unklar/Documents/derTEST.txt: inode/x-empty; charset=binary

Thanks - I think that clears it up. There is no issue. Linux systems ignore filename extensions like .txt (although some applications do take them into account) and determine the file type by looking at its contents. So an empty file cannot be detected as a text file - or an audio file or anything - whatever its name is. If you click on a file in Thunar then the mime-type (in this case inode/x-empty; charset=binary) is checked against ~/.config/mimeapps.list and because there is no application registered it asks you what to do. I think that's the correct behaviour.

If you already have a text editor open then you can ask it to open eg /home/unklar/Documents/derTEST and it will treat it as a text file. If the file doesn't exist it will probably create it. But if you don't save any content, I think the file will remain an empty inode.

+1
Thanks for clarifying that.