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cog

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, what @packrat said

unklar

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@PackRat,
do you know which desktop @cog chose with the new ‘gila-ISO’ from 2025-08-14 ?
https://hatcherylinux.org/download/

Should be awesome window manager. The vertical bars are awesome widgets.

Thanks for your assessment. 

unklar

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, what @packrat said

Thanks for your work!
Would you take on Hyprland again? Awesome isn't really my thing. 

hhh

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, what @packrat said

Thanks for your work!
Would you take on Hyprland again? Awesome isn't really my thing. 

I'll stick my 2 cents in to say that I wouldn't do it on Debian. The sid package is v.41 and the git is v.50, and that's not looking at what supporting packages are available on sid.

To get current Hyprland on Debian you have to build a half dozen packages, at least, from source. And then you could only release that as a static build for an ISO, it would be up to the user to rebuild everything (hopefully all the *-dev packages needed in the first place would be included on the ISO). And those new versions keep coming, along with new versions of the supporting stuff.

Anyway, a monumental pain in the keister, a hot mess of rapid development. Do it on Arch.

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hhh

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Have I mentioned how awesome (no pun intended) a desktop environment Wayfire/wf-shell with mako-notifier on Debian trixie is? Totally awesome.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 33#p145333

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unklar

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@hhh

^Thanks for your two cents.

I'm still using @JaKooLit's version on hyprland.  I'm very happy with how stable it runs.
I understand the endless work that would fall on @cog, for example. It's hardly possible to do it alone.

Nevertheless, you're confusing me, see:

apt policy hyprland
hyprland:
  Installiert:           (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 0.41.2+ds-1.3
  Versionstabelle:
     0.41.2+ds-1.3 500
        500 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages

inxi -Sxxx
System:
  Host: efischrott Kernel: 6.16.3-2-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    compiler: gcc v: 15.2.0 clocksource: tsc
  Desktop: Hyprland v: 0.41.2 with: waybar vt: 1 lm: seatd v: 0.9.1
    Distro: siduction 2023.1.1 giants - nox - (202405152137) base: Debian
    GNU/Linux forky/sid

fastfetch -c neofetch -l siduction
                _aass,                      unklarer@efischrott
               jQh: =$w                     -------------------
               QWmwawQW                     OS: Debian GNU/Linux forky/sid x86_64
               )$QQQQ@(   ..                Host: OMEN by HP Laptop
         _a_a.   ~??^  syDY?Sa,             Kernel: 6.16.3-2-siduction-amd64
       _mW>-<$c       jWmi  imm.            Uptime: 15 mins
       ]QQwayQE       4QQmgwmQQ`            Packages: 2026 (dpkg)
        ?WWQWP'       -9QQQQQ@'._aas,       Shell: bash 5.2.37
 _a%is.        .adYYs,. -"?!` aQB*~^3$c     Resolution: 1920x1080
_Qh;.nm       .QWc. {QL      ]QQp;..vmQ/    WM: Hyprland 0.41.2 (Wayland)
"QQmmQ@       -QQQggmQP      ]QQWmggmQQ(    Theme: Catppuccin-Mocha [Qt], Flat-Remix-GTK-Blue-Light [GTK2/3]
 -???"         "$WQQQY`  __,  ?QQQQQQW!     Icons: Tokyonight-Dark [Qt], Flat-Remix-Blue-Light [GTK2/3]
        _yZ!?q,   -   .yWY!!Sw, "???^       Terminal: xfce4-terminal 1.1.4
       .QQa_=qQ       mQm>..vmm             Terminal Font: Monospace 10
        $QQWQQP       $QQQgmQQ@             CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ (8) @ 3.500GHz
         "???"   _aa, -9WWQQWY`             GPU: GeForce GTX 965M
               _mB>~)$a  -~~                GPU: HD Graphics 530
               mQms_vmQ.                    Memory: 1594MiB / 7846MiB
               ]WQQQQQP
                -?T??"                                              
                                                                    

???

Have I mentioned how awesome (no pun intended) a desktop environment Wayfire/wf-shell with mako-notifier on Debian trixie is? Totally awesome.

apt policy wayfire wf-shell
wayfire:
  Installiert:           (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 0.9.0-5
  Versionstabelle:
     0.9.0-5 500
        500 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
wf-shell:
  Installiert:           (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 0.9.0+ds-2
  Versionstabelle:
     0.9.0+ds-2 500
        500 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages

Is that easier than labwc (hyprland anyway)?  What is the basis for Wayfire?
You keep raving about it. labwc rarely occurs in your case.

PackRat

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, what @packrat said

Thanks for your work!
Would you take on Hyprland again? Awesome isn't really my thing. 

I'll stick my 2 cents in to say that I wouldn't do it on Debian. The sid package is v.41 and the git is v.50, and that's not looking at what supporting packages are available on sid.

To get current Hyprland on Debian you have to build a half dozen packages, at least, from source. And then you could only release that as a static build for an ISO, it would be up to the user to rebuild everything (hopefully all the *-dev packages needed in the first place would be included on the ISO). And those new versions keep coming, along with new versions of the supporting stuff.

Anyway, a monumental pain in the keister, a hot mess of rapid development. Do it on Arch.

Very true.

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hhh

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, I'll put together a tutorial for a Wayfire setup on Debian trixie. Yes, I like it a lot more than labwc at the moment, I'm sorry to say. It's Compiz with an actual wl-roots shell under it. I think it's fun and brilliant.

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unklar

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From: #! BL

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, I'll put together a tutorial for a Wayfire setup on Debian trixie. Yes, I like it a lot more than labwc at the moment, I'm sorry to say. It's Compiz with an actual wl-roots shell under it. I think it's fun and brilliant.

Wow, I'm excited! 

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hatchery loaded

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@Colonel Panic - you had your most recent Manjaro post in the wayfire tutorial. I deleted it. Can you repost it here.

Thanks.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sorry about the mistake. No I can't I'm afraid, I have no record of it.

It wasn't all that important, just an observation about the distro mostly being fine apart from what seems to be a bug with the boot menu (which freezes for no obvious reason).

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