News that might affect BunsenLabs

ohnonot · 2020-12-22 06:33:43

johnraff wrote:

I don't think GTK2 is going to disappear for a while yet

Yep, esp. on Debian!

Also keep in mind that (unlike e.g. Qt) GTK2 is "just" a UI toolkit and to keep on using it does not pose a security risk or some such. As long as it works, no problem.

DeepDayze · 2020-12-22 20:29:22

ohnonot wrote:

johnraff wrote:
I don't think GTK2 is going to disappear for a while yet
Yep, esp. on Debian!
Also keep in mind that (unlike e.g. Qt) GTK2 is "just" a UI toolkit and to keep on using it does not pose a security risk or some such. As long as it works, no problem.

Makes sense. As long as there's no so-called bit rot then why not keep them if they work?

johnraff · 2021-01-15 04:34:52

Bullseye Freeze Policy:
https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html

Mostly for developers, but some bits of interest to us too, eg:

2021-02-12 - Milestone 2 - Soft Freeze

Packages that are not in bullseye at the start of the soft freeze will not be in the release.

and

Please note that packages that are in bullseye at the start of the soft freeze can still be removed if they are buggy.

So nothing that's not in Testing on 12th Feb. will be coming in Bullseye. (I don't think that rules out possible package upgrades though.)

johnraff · 2021-02-14 01:55:18

bullseye froze softly

"we currently believe the state of bullseye is pretty good, so we're aiming for a record short freeze"

details here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a … 00002.html

hhh · 2021-02-14 02:06:45

^ I've already upgraded my Debian Cinnamon desktop, everything works great. No problems on my old hardware with the 5.10 kernel.

The final dist-upgrade had a held package, ggc-8-base, remove it. You can also remove ggc-9-base if it's installed. Debian Guide...

https://www.debian.org/releases/bullsey … ng.en.html

We don't have a complete Beryllium repo upgrade yet, but most, if not all, of BunsenLabs Lithium should still work.

johnraff · 2021-02-14 03:12:21

hhh wrote:

We don't have a complete Beryllium repo upgrade yet...

Last uploads of migrated Beryllium packages went up yesterday, so now we do:

deb https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian beryllium main

Add that to a basic Bullseye CLI system and install bunsen-meta-all.
I'm just about to test this out and will start a new topic if it works OK...

EDIT - hold that a bit, the metapackage needs a little tweaking. Anyway, I'll start a new thread.

Last edited by johnraff (2021-02-14 07:08:19)

hhh · 2021-02-14 07:25:36

Take your time. I assume you'll upgrade in a VM, I can test it on metal when it's ready.

DeepDayze · 2021-02-15 02:18:19

When the first test ISO's are out I can give 'em a spin!

johnraff · 2021-02-15 06:51:18

^Thanks! But that won't be for a while yet - I'm still hoping the Bullseye version of live-build will be upgraded to the latest version from Sid.

Meanwhile, the packages are available, and a how-to topic coming soon. Any volunteers to try that will be highly welcome.

johnraff · 2021-02-16 06:02:49

DeepDayze wrote:

When the first test ISO's are out I can give 'em a spin!

No ISOs for a while, but the packages are out.
HOW-TO here:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7356

johnraff · 2021-03-20 02:17:02

Debian Project News - March 18th, 2021

Some interesting bits here and there:
https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/

sleekmason · 2021-03-20 14:40:21

johnraff wrote:

Debian Project News - March 18th, 2021
Some interesting bits here and there:
https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/

All sorts of good info:) Finally signed up for the mailing list. Thank you for posting!

hhh · 2021-03-21 00:37:32

@Johnraff, I updated my Debian desktop to Bullseye just after the soft freeze, I'd love to do the same with Lithium (and post a tutorial). Do we have enough BL packages yet?

johnraff · 2021-03-23 09:43:56

^Yes, they're all there, use the experimental repo:

deb https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian beryllium main

johnraff · 2021-03-24 05:08:13

^^ & ^Thread on setting up the experimental Beryllium:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7356
Not quite the same as upgrading a Lithium system of course.

johnraff · 2021-03-30 08:07:11

NewInBullseye

Debian wiki page that will probably have more stuff added...

https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBullseye

Worth keeping an eye on.

johnraff · 2021-04-11 06:04:31

Command "open" in Bullseye

http://charles.plessy.org/Debian/debi%C3%A2neries/open/

Debian Bullseye will provide the command /usr/bin/open for your greatest comfort at the command line. On a system with a graphical desktop environment, the command should have a similar result as when opening a document from a mouse-and-click file browser.
Technically, /usr/bin/open is a symbolic link managed by update-alternatives to point towards xdg-open if available and otherwise run-mailcap.

ohnonot · 2021-04-12 04:37:38

and otherwise run-mailcap.

Now that's interesting.
The man page starts thusly:

run-mailcap, view, see, edit, compose, print - execute programs via entries in the mailcap file

I only have this on my non-graphical Debian install.
There are some entries in /etc/mailcap.
Testing with e.g.

compose some.html

just opens the file with vi. I wonder what's possible on a graphical system.
- and apparently no package owns /etc/mailcap; I wonder what created it and who writes to it?

johnraff · 2021-04-12 08:57:16

ohnonot wrote:

apparently no package owns /etc/mailcap; I wonder what created it and who writes to it?

man update-mime wrote:

update-mime updates the /etc/mailcap file to reflect mime information changed by a Debian package during installation or removal.

update-mime belongs to mime-support

ohnonot · 2021-04-14 18:01:41

^ Thanks.

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