News that might affect BunsenLabs

johnraff · 2016-08-04 04:09:47

Just something for developers to be aware of:
Changes for GnuPG in Debian

Last edited by johnraff (2016-08-06 08:05:19)

johnraff · 2016-08-06 08:04:27

Changed the topic title so it can be a place for people to pin things that we might want to check back on later.

johnraff · 2016-08-21 01:53:36

Gnome have dropped synaptics support apparently.
Bug 768682 - Removal of synaptics support was premature

johnraff · 2016-12-16 02:47:39

A bit of good news: Raphaël Hertzog has adopted live-build:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=808048

Check out the changelog which closes many bugs, including "Add EFI boot support with grub-efi...Closes: #731709"

EDIT I didn't know about the unpleasantness around the departure of the previous live-build maintainer:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=804315
Not going to takes sides, but it's a pity it went like that.

BTW @all, please feel free to post any news in this thread which you think might concern BL.

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johnraff · 2017-02-23 03:21:11

Beware of libinput 1.6.0-1

hhh · 2017-02-23 04:50:28

I also saw that Hertzog was much more active with live-build as Kali has progressed, awesome. I hope he doesn't give up thanks to curt (rude IMO) responses like that libinput bug!

Maybe good news, former Debian leader N. McGovern will head the GNOME Foundation...
http://www.itwire.com/open-source/76681 … ation.html

johnraff · 2017-02-23 05:29:18

^I wouldn't say rude, short and to the point.

martix · 2017-02-23 10:15:01

johnraff wrote:

I didn't know about the unpleasantness around the departure of the previous live-build maintainer

These issues are not easy to understand form a user perspective. There has been a project, doing work for Debian, i.e. building live Cd images under the name debian-live. Then something similar came from the official Debian project called debian-live-ng -> the maintainer of debian-live (and some other users) did not like that this new name sounds too similar to the existing project (and calling them not official part of Debian)? Well, at least that's what I can understand. Anyway, it was back in 2015, I hope everything is sorted out by now.

johnraff · 2017-04-07 01:10:41

httpredir has been abandoned.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors … 00000.html

httpredir urls in apt sources.list files still work, but they are just being redirected to deb.debian.org

BL development discussion here: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=3555

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johnraff · 2017-04-28 08:29:38

Bits from the Debian CD^WImages Team
Some improvements of the Debian images pages.

Horizon_Brave · 2017-04-28 23:35:01

Hmm not sure how, or if at all this will affect BunsenLabs, but it appears that Stretch won't be offering a secure boot option as per:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a … 00013.html

This does suck, as I do know that they did get their boot shim signed by microsoft in anticipation for this...

A brief status: [status]
========================
First off, a list of items with progress:
* Secure boot support: We got a signature from Microsoft on our shim bootloader
* OpenSSL transition: Done
* MySQL -> MariaDB transition: Done
* gcc-5 removal: Done
* RC bugs (key packages): We went from 150 to 40 RC bugs (since
2017-02-04)
* The stretch-backports suite now exists
* DSA have successfully upgraded several servers including one buildd
for all architectures except for arm{el,hf}.
* We are almost done with the "Before the freeze" part of the release
checklist (just missing some buildds being upgraded to stretch).

It would have been nice, as I've noticed a few people on here having issues with laptops and their newer motherboards that seem to be a bit more aggressive with the secureboot functionality?

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-04-29 10:38:40

Horizon_Brave wrote:

I've noticed a few people on here having issues with laptops and their newer motherboards that seem to be a bit more aggressive with the secureboot functionality?

Do you have any links?

I have not seen any Secure Boot problems on these boards, I think that most people know to disable it by now and that should always be possible.

Anyway, my old workaround still, er, works:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=393

Horizon_Brave · 2017-04-29 23:02:37

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Horizon_Brave wrote:
I've noticed a few people on here having issues with laptops and their newer motherboards that seem to be a bit more aggressive with the secureboot functionality?
Do you have any links?
I have not seen any Secure Boot problems on these boards, I think that most people know to disable it by now and that should always be possible.
Anyway, my old workaround still, er, works:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=393

@HoaS Yea I know your workaround definitely nulls the issue, was just hoping that it would sort of be fixed "at the source" so to speak.

ghorvath · 2017-05-30 19:22:16

Apparently Debian Stretch is expected to be out on 17th June:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a … 00002.html

Approximately how much later can we expect Bunsenlabs Helium?

Edit: further, do you plan a way to upgrade any Bunsenlabs Hydrogen/Deuterium by apt-get or do you only plan an ISO-image?

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-05-30 19:22:53

ghorvath wrote:

how much later can we expect Bunsenlabs Helium?

When it's ready

ghorvath · 2017-05-30 19:26:47

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

ghorvath wrote:
how much later can we expect Bunsenlabs Helium?
When it's ready

I see....

I edited my post, but probably better to ask again:
Do you plan a way to upgrade any Bunsenlabs Hydrogen/Deuterium by apt-get or do you only plan an ISO-image?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-05-30 19:29:38

ghorvath wrote:

an ISO-image

I think this is the plan but please wait for input from the rest of the team.

Whilst it may be possible to `dist-upgrade` from Hydrogen to Helium, I don't think there will be an official upgrade path.

But I may be wrong.

ector1935 · 2017-05-31 08:31:27

Horizon_Brave wrote:

Hmm not sure how, or if at all this will affect BunsenLabs, but it appears that Stretch won't be offering a secure boot option as per:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a … 00013.html
This does suck, as I do know that they did get their boot shim signed by microsoft in anticipation for this...
A brief status: [status]
========================
First off, a list of items with progress:
* Secure boot support: We got a signature from Microsoft on our shim bootloader
* OpenSSL transition: Done
* MySQL -> MariaDB transition: Done
* gcc-5 removal: Done
* RC bugs (key packages): We went from 150 to 40 RC bugs (since
2017-02-04)
* The stretch-backports suite now exists
* DSA have successfully upgraded several servers including one buildd
for all architectures except for arm{el,hf}.
* We are almost done with the "Before the freeze" part of the release
checklist (just missing some buildds being upgraded to stretch).

It would have been nice, as I've noticed a few people on here having issues with laptops and their newer motherboards that seem to be a bit more aggressive with the secureboot functionality?

The next day I tried to install ubuntu17.04 mate on hd ex ingpt-efi, at boot of the iso with secureboot disabled, during the manual installation I tried to install grub on the efi / fat32 partition on the external disk, and with My surprise did not allow me, then I installed it by just pointing to / root, setup went well, at startup ok, but when i tried to start the next day it turned out impossible, i was getting a microsoft or ubuntu key , Morale I had to plan ubuntu, as I installed it with deactivated secureboot, all my distro, these canonical choices only make me harm, and I do not share them, I hope they are not the choices of debian, or else i have to give up bunsenlabs And I would not give up, since I like it a lot.
edit
Excuse me, for my english translation from google

Last edited by ector1935 (2017-05-31 08:33:53)

johnraff · 2017-07-01 08:55:32

Apparently the Stretch live images were built using live-wrapper, not live-build, with less than outstanding results, so that one of the developers now seems ready to drop the whole idea of live isos.

debian Mailing List wrote:

...If we don't see a radical improvement soon, I'll simply disable building live images altogether to remove the false promises they're making.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic … rPDMvcRbsc
or
https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/20 … 00064.html

Steve · 2017-07-01 11:08:02

It is a shame (as in unforseen critical errors) the live iso's got a bit bungled, but time heals all wounds as the saying goes. The devs sound like they put in a hell of a lot of labour into what they do and by trying out live-wrapper they were probably hoping to shorten the scale of the development of the iso's which is what we all want, an easier more streamlined workflow that yields benefits so other projects can be looked at and developed. Hope they work it out.

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