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#21 2015-12-13 02:46:09

johnraff
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Re: Release ISOs

^Thank you.
I'll use httpredir.


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#22 2015-12-14 10:15:02

uname
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Re: Release ISOs

Please check the fbxkb-bug-suggestion before rollout next Release ISOs:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=614

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#23 2015-12-14 23:21:31

Zill
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Re: Release ISOs

I am slightly worried about BL installing anything from backports automatically.

As advised in Debian Backports ›› Instructions ...

Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!

It is therefore recommended to select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports.

I suggest that, while the backports repo can be included in the default BL sources.list, it should be up to each user to manually install any backported package they actually require with apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package".

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#24 2015-12-15 07:21:26

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Re: Release ISOs

Zill wrote:

I am slightly worried about BL installing anything from backports automatically

My comment was about the Debian 8.2 netinstall ISO image.

The BunsenLabs-specific set up (ie, the part the BL developers have direct control over) only adds backports as a user-activated option.

I think ffmpeg is a special case anyway because of the licensing wrangles.

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#25 2015-12-16 02:29:05

johnraff
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Re: Release ISOs

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The BunsenLabs-specific set up (ie, the part the BL developers have direct control over) only adds backports as a user-activated option.

Available in bunsen-welcome 8.6-1 which should be arriving on your desktop soonish.

If backports are added, the user is advised:

You can add or upgrade packages with the command:
sudo apt-get install -t jessie-backports <packagename>

but nothing is installed automatically.


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#26 2015-12-16 11:58:59

Zill
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Re: Release ISOs

johnraff wrote:

... but nothing is installed automatically.

Sounds good to me.  Thanks for the clarification guys. smile

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#27 2015-12-18 06:35:32

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Re: Release ISOs

hhh wrote:

The next release is planned for late January at the latest. It's possible the ISOs will be named RC2, but we're shooting for Release.

We've decided to stay with jessie packages and have all new packages be opt-in only. You break it, you keep the pieces.

The one exception we're making is yad for zenity as the newest Bunsen scripts will depend on it.

It looks like the keyboard-switcher applet will remain installed but not configured. The jessie version has bugs and a backport for this is too much trouble. This is negotiable, I guess.

SOUND: pulseaudio is buggy in BunsenLabs. pulse seems to play nice with KDE and GNOME and its derivatives (MATE, Cinnamon), but not so much with Xfce, LXDE and  BL. The consensus seems to be that we should stick with what we have, all configuration updates included, and deal with issues as they occur. This is definitely negotiable.

There have been a few issues with the lock screen (light-locker). This is tough to troubleshoot because we also offer an xfce4-power-manager backport that laptop users get prompted to install during bl-welcome. Again, we'll probably stick with what we have and troubleshoot as needed, but suggestions are encouraged.

Please provide your feedback, and thank you for shopping S-Mart!


What kind of sound problems ? So when RC2 will show up there will be need to reinstall the whole system ?

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#28 2015-12-18 07:22:45

johnraff
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Re: Release ISOs

Sound issues seem to vary a lot from person to person - depending perhaps on hardware? Personally, I've never had any problems with Pulse Audio. That could be because I don't try to do anything particularly difficult with it...


Even when RC2 comes out there will be no need to reinstall your system if you just keep the bunsen packages up to date.


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#29 2015-12-18 16:34:27

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Re: Release ISOs

johnraff wrote:

Even when RC2 comes out there will be no need to reinstall your system if you just keep the bunsen packages up to date.

sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo dist-upgrade ?

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#30 2015-12-18 17:26:02

dolly
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Re: Release ISOs

^Yes. smile

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#31 2015-12-19 01:45:39

johnraff
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Re: Release ISOs

^^Not forgetting the 'sudo apt-get update' first. smile

Usually dist-upgrade is unnecessary, but after a major release jump some BunsenLabs packages will have new dependencies which wouldn't get installed without it.


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#32 2015-12-19 08:30:18

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Re: Release ISOs

^Oooops I did it again  :8. I promise that I read update instead of upgrade in JulieRoses post. See my signature for clarification.

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