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#26 2020-02-24 07:48:07

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

^I guess the best you could do would be get a frying pan with a flat bottom in the centre but high curved sides to keep the food in. A curved bottom works well over gas but no it wouldn't work on an electric stove.

I've no idea if they're any good, but I believe there are also self-contained electric woks.

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#27 2020-02-24 08:00:03

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

I have a flat-bottomed cast iron "wok" which I use on an induction stove. It's not quite as good as a real wok on gas, but I'm quite happy with it. It does weigh a ton though!

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#28 2020-02-24 08:53:57

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

There seem to be two different approaches to frying pans - thick and heavy, evenly heating all over, vs thin and quick to heat up. Both are valid IMO.

BTW I only discovered this a couple of years ago, but with one of the thin beaten iron frying pans you can get something approaching a non-stick effect like this (but it might only work on gas I'm afraid):

Put it on a high heat with nothing in, wait till it starts to smoke a bit.
Put in a little oil, swirl it around and pour off the excess into a can or metal bowl.
When the little bit of oil sticking to the pan starts to smoke you're ready.
Now turn the gas down to normal, add as much oil as you need and start cooking normally.

Repeat as necessary.

Don't use detergents to clean the pan, just a bristle (not metal) brush and water, so you leave a thin film of oil on the pan. Never use scouring powder - it shouldn't be necessary and will cover the surface with tiny scratches and ruin the non-stick effect.


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#29 2020-02-26 07:19:10

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

johnraff wrote:

Put it on a high heat with nothing in, wait till it starts to smoke a bit.
Put in a little oil, swirl it around and pour off the excess into a can or metal bowl.
When the little bit of oil sticking to the pan starts to smoke you're ready.
Now turn the gas down to normal, add as much oil as you need and start cooking normally.

Repeat as necessary.

How do you know it's necessary?
I heard about this "burning in" of pans.
The recommendation is to use an oil that starts smoking easily (so the exact opposite of what you'd use for frying) - e.g. linseed oil.
I should do it.
Actually, I should get another pan altogether. My cast iron pan is small, and the bigger one is not cast and not particulalry good in any way.

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#30 2020-02-27 01:13:27

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

^I think it works best with thin beaten iron pans that respond quickly when you turn the heat up and down. That's the kind I used it with anyway.

"Necessary" just means when the food starts sticking to the pan. That depends on so many things and could mean every day or two or every week or two. Stir-fried vegetables don't stick anyway, but fried rice or noodles for example go better after you've freshly burnt the pan. The burnt oil seems to make a kind of old-fashioned non-stick coating. Of course you can just use a non-stick pan - they seem to last pretty well these days, but eventally have to be thrown away. And some people worry about the teflon coming off in their food.


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#31 2020-02-27 07:50:10

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

^Although if you're regularly heating oil beyond its smoke point, I'd be much more worried about the impact of that than about Teflon...

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#32 2020-02-27 08:05:27

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^Really? Why? It's just a thin film.


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#33 2020-02-27 09:11:26

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

Heating oil beyond its smoke point produces free radicals and other toxic substances like PAHs which you really don't want in your food, in your lungs or in an enclosed environment like a kitchen. I think even if it's small quantities of oil, if done regularly it is not good for you.

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#34 2020-02-27 10:07:13

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

johnraff wrote:

^I think it works best with thin beaten iron pans that respond quickly when you turn the heat up and down.

Initially misread "pans" as "pants" and thought yikes
Major heat John's packin' in his kitchen.

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#35 2020-02-27 23:39:48

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^ & ^^ thanks guys.


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#36 2020-02-28 06:56:36

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

johnraff wrote:

^I guess the best you could do would be get a frying pan with a flat bottom in the centre but high curved sides to keep the food in. A curved bottom works well over gas but no it wouldn't work on an electric stove.

I've no idea if they're any good, but I believe there are also self-contained electric woks.

Like this?
https://royaldesign.se/cambridge-wokpanna-28cm

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#37 2020-03-02 05:09:30

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

^That looks like a Frying Pan with Wok-like Characteristics that might work OK on an electric stove, yes.

But I thought there were also electric woks with their own built-in heating elements. As I said, I've no idea if they'd be any good.


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#38 2020-03-02 05:11:45

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

Jimbo_G wrote:

Heating oil beyond its smoke point produces free radicals and other toxic substances like PAHs which you really don't want in your food, in your lungs or in an enclosed environment like a kitchen. I think even if it's small quantities of oil, if done regularly it is not good for you.

Does this also rule out any kind of grilled meat? Kebabs, barbecue...


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#39 2020-03-09 16:07:51

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

Punjena paprika (stuffed peppers)
https://i.imgur.com/E2CXyQE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QhZxC4P.jpg
Minced meat, rice, onion, carrots, peppers and spices.
I use the slow  electric cooker so it boils all night in a ceramic dish.


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#40 2020-03-13 06:00:07

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

^ Looks yummy! How exactly do you do that? Full recipe please!

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#41 2020-03-30 20:54:18

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

Some products are cheap & good. I'm always looking for the best possible price/quality ratio when shopping.
This means that over the years I developed a rather narrow list of products I buy in the same supermarket chain.
Currently exactly these products are almost always sold out, so I have to look for something else.
One something else I found is a fairly small package of fairly small chicken legs ("drumsticks" I believe they're called). 6 in a pack I think.

Here's a super tasty simple dish you can make in 1h.

What you need besides the chicken legs:

  • Vegetables: a carrot, onion or leek, garlic, bell pepper and whatever you like or have left in the fridge.

  • One package (500g) of crushed tomatoes.

  • Frying oil, spices

  • And most importantly, a big ol' steelpot with a fairly wide bottom:
    s-l300.jpg

Preparation:

  • Put the oven on at ~225 degrees Celsius.

  • Heat the pot up on the stove, put some frying oil in.

  • When it’s hot, put the drumsticks in. Turn them around after a while.

  • At the same time chop the veggies, put them in with the chicken.

  • Put some spices (I like to go mediterranean + Chili) and salt on top

  • Empty the tomatoes on top of everything

  • Now the oven should be hot - put the pot inside. First ~25min with the lid on, then another ~25min with the lid off

I make some Basmati rice to go with it.
Mmmmm!

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#42 2020-04-01 18:48:51

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ohnonot wrote:

^ Looks yummy! How exactly do you do that? Full recipe please!

I'm sorry, I missed your post.

For 10 big peppers 300-400 grams of minced meat 2 onions and carrot. I got the small ones.

Wash then cut the top of the fresh peppees and remove the seeds. Bigger are esier to fill.

Fry the chopped onions and carrots to be semi transparent. I use the pan. Add minced meat to the pan and fry for 5 minutes while mixing it occasionally. No need to fry much it will all boil later.
Boil in another dish 125gr of rice just a little or put into microwave for 2-3 minutes. Remove the watter from the rice.
Mix it all together.
Add a little salt or some spices you like.
Now fill the peppers with the mix to the top. Some people chop the tomato into round slices and put them on top to seal the pepper. I don't ussualy.
Put the peppers in the cooking pot tightly like in the picture. Add tomato sauce. Now it time time to put it in the oven and boil. I use the slow cooker so it takes all night to cook.
In the owen it takes about an hour to cook at 180-200°C.

For vegeterians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfYjNxDc1MY
There are all sorts of recipes for stuffed peppers on youtube.
Some use dried peppers, some even pickled.

Last edited by misko_2083 (2020-04-01 18:52:35)


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#43 2020-04-02 05:20:50

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Re: What do you like to Eat? Share your favourite Recipes!

Thank you so much!
That's easier than I thought.

misko_2083 wrote:

Add tomato sauce.

Just pour it on top? How much?
What sort of tomato sauce is that? You mean like crushed tomatoes from a can?
I don't see that in your photo either.

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