Browser Blues - FIXED

brogild · 2019-11-22 19:23:55

ekzotic wrote:

From the memory lol.
Anyway glad it helped. There are other ways to dl YouTube videos like webpages, so you don't have to use broken (incompatible) add-on.

Yes, I've tried one or two. Even though dlh has got bloated and annoying since v5 (and CPU intensive it seems), it quickly gives me several resolutions to download in, not the default full sized one which result in very large files that I don't need.
The 'companion app' still doesn't work in that it fails to mux the audio and video once downloaded but, like it not working on chromium, I assume that is because Windows versions get the most attention.

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rbh · 2019-11-22 19:40:34

brogild wrote:

Yes, I've tried one or two. Even though dlh has got bloated and annoying since v5 (and CPU intensive it seems)

Test package youtube-dl, "downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites".

Run from CommandLine. Does not take much resources.

brogild · 2019-11-22 20:33:43

rbh wrote:

brogild wrote:
Yes, I've tried one or two. Even though dlh has got bloated and annoying since v5 (and CPU intensive it seems)
Test package youtube-dl, "downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites".
Run from CommandLine. Does not take much resources.

I tried this but found that it was inconsistent at detecting the various resolutions of videos, and sometimes it didn't detect them at all.

Youtube alter their way of embedding/encoding video files from time to time, so an application has to adapt to be able to detect these, dlh seems to update pretty often so has been keeping up with this. Youtube-dl is pretty old which is why I think it has problems.

johnraff · 2019-11-23 01:58:21

brogild wrote:

...using the bl-welcome script for updates, assuming that it first refeshes the package lists, obviously it doesn't.

Actually it does - or should.
After the "HELLO" page, sudo password prompt and network test, the next page has a title "UPDATE SOFTWARE SOURCES AND UPGRADE INSTALLED PACKAGES". Does that not work for you?

brogild · 2019-11-23 09:17:07

^^ Yes, I got that wrong. On my main system I only update every couple of months due to my practice of degrading the array first. It seems this time I left it longer than I thought, making me think my package list was reasonably up to date.

From now on I'll be updating packages regularly, even if I don't do an actual update. The 'simulate' switch sounds interesting but I'm not sure if it enables me to properly test the system in the way that an actual update does with a disconnected disk as backup.

ETA: I'll say 'fallback' instead of backup, I know some people get tetchy about regarding RAID as backup.

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rbh · 2019-11-23 11:34:40

brogild wrote:

Yes, I've tried one or two. Even though dlh has got bloated and annoying since v5 (and CPU intensive it seems)

I asume you mean VDH VideoDownloadHelper.

brogild wrote:

[youtube-dl] I tried this but found that it was inconsistent at detecting the various resolutions of videos, and sometimes it didn't detect them at all.
Youtube alter their way of embedding/encoding video files from time to time, so an application has to adapt to be able to detect these, dlh seems to update pretty often so has been keeping up with this. Youtube-dl is pretty old which is why I think it has problems.

I use packaged version, I have never under all years experienced any problem. If the skript support downloading from the site it has allwys detected all qualities. Default it downloads best quality, which I usualy prefer.
If you are depended on latest version, do a manualy installation, to get latest update. I think it is updated more frequent than VDH. Last update of youtube-dl was yesterday...

brogild · 2019-11-23 12:52:31

Thinking back, I may be thinking of a version that is a Firefox extension (and only works on pre Quantum FF's). If I want to download a best quality version then I can discover the download url using vlc, but this results in files that are much bigger than I need (I've got quite a large library by now).

I may experiment with the commandline version**, but I find getting into the nuts and bolts of things makes me focus on other things than video content - ie, I get anal, so I prefer to stay in the world of gui in this matter.

It turns out that VDH's overhead is only about 5-8% most of the time, it's only during livestreams that it goes a bit crazy, so I can live with this now that I've pinned it down. It has become pretty bloated and I never use the companion-app functions, I remember when it was neat and small (before v5.0) and if it makes another similar leap I might consider other options.

**Synaptic is offering me v2017.05.18.1.1, which doesn't detect anything, I'm sure there are later ones but, while VDH isn't irking me too much, I don't feel the need to go looking.

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brogild · 2019-11-23 14:47:34

^^ Too late, curiosity has got the better of me. it turns out that it wasn't the version of youtube-dl that was causing a problem. On 'updating' I've got exactly the same version, so it must be an updated script that was needed because it's working fine now.
Using the switches to discover and download various formats has turned out to be quite straightforward too.

rbh · 2019-11-23 19:12:49

brogild wrote:

^^ Too late, curiosity has got the better of me. it turns out that it wasn't the version of youtube-dl that was causing a problem. On 'updating' I've got exactly the same version, so it must be an updated script that was needed because it's working fine now.
Using the switches to discover and download various formats has turned out to be quite straightforward too.

Oldstable (stretch), carries version 2017.05.18.1-1. When on oldstable, I think it is more important to enable backports. Stretch-backports have version 2019.01.17-1.1~bpo9+1, same as in stable; buster. How to manage backports on https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

But, you do not need to look for newer version of youtube-dl. I gave you the link for manual installation: https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html. It is as easy as:

$ sudo curl -L https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl -o /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
sudo chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl

To update manualey installed youtube-dl (often weekly):

$ sudo youtube-dl -U

You will get answer if it is uptodate, otherwise it will update.

Maybe you should consider a better practise for updating/backup?

Security-updates should not wait more than an week...

rbh · 2019-11-23 19:24:37

When dealing with intermittent overloads, it is good to start monitor the system in real time.

One simple system monitoring toool is glances: https://nicolargo.github.io/glances

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ohnonot · 2019-11-24 08:00:10

First of all, I have to ask:
Did you upgrade the distribution to buster now? I think not, but some of your comments are ambiguous.

In any case, I discoverd a serious problem here:

brogild wrote:

Regarding the version of firefox, I has assumed that my system is offering me the correct update, but looking on the Debian site the latest version is 68.2 (for esr)
apt-cache policy firefox-esr gives me:
firefox-esr:
Installed: 60.9.0esr-1~deb9u1
Candidate: 60.9.0esr-1~deb9u1
Version table:
*** 60.9.0esr-1~deb9u1 500
500 https://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
60.7.1esr-1~deb9u1 500
500 https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
60.6.3esr-1~deb9u1 500
500 https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates/main amd64 Packages

brogild wrote:

I've also been lazy and been using the bl-welcome script for updates, assuming that it first refeshes the package lists, obviously it doesn't. Someone here thought it was odd that I used this for updates, but If I find something that works once, I'll keep using it.

While using bl-welcome to update/upgrade your system might seem inconvenient to many, it isn't wrong per se and should also do it properly.
Even if you don't care about Firefox (which is sad), this indicates that most of your system could be outdated.

So please, run at least this part of the script (or better still, enter those two commands in a terminal) and show us the output or the bl-welcome log.
...actually, I think it's best if you start a new thread for that, this one is getting messy.

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brogild · 2019-11-24 09:54:00

It turned out that I was mistaken about how recent my last update was, so my bad.

ohnonot wrote:

...actually, I think it's best if you start a new thread for that, this one is getting messy.

My original gripes have been more than fixed.

I was hoping for a fix to the chromium issue, and that is done.
I wasn't expecting a solution to the firefox/livestreams issue, but that has come about too.

One I didn't mention, that firefox seems to stop spellchecking after a period of use, has gone away with the update to 68.2 (let's hope it stays away this time).
I'll mark the thread as 'fixed' if it's possible to edit titles here.

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