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#1 2019-08-14 16:42:12

Colonel Panic
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Certain distros failing to boot properly

Dear All,

I keep getting the same problem when I try to boot up some distros’ installation DVDs. I get a message like;

Can not mount /dev/loop/0 (live/medium/filesystem.squashfs)

and then it drops me down to the (initramfs) prompt.

It’s remarkably consistent across certain distros; for example it never seems to happen with Sparky's 4 series editions, but always does with the 5 series.

Has anyone got any idea what is happening, and how (if at all) I might be able to fix it while it's happening? Or is it unfixable, and I need to throw the affected DVDs in the rubbish bin and start again with another one (or just stick with ones that do work, such as Bunsen)?

Thanks in advance,


CP .

P.S. With hindsight, I could and maybe should have posted this in the CrunchBang subforum, as this happened with my copy of CrunchBang PlusPlus 10.1 (the most recent version).

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#2 2019-08-14 18:00:57

eight.bit.al
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

Colonel Panic wrote:

throw the affected DVDs in the rubbish bin.


Might want to try USB installs. I recently converted, and am well served.
No CD/DVDs to buy and no trash. Environmentally friendly too.
Sorry, I don't have a better answer to your question.

8bit

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#3 2019-08-14 18:05:39

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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

Have you tried to burn a new copy of one of the distros DVDs in question?
Exact same .iso, new DVD?

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#4 2019-08-14 18:24:58

Colonel Panic
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

eight.bit.al wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

throw the affected DVDs in the rubbish bin.


Might want to try USB installs. I recently converted, and am well served.
No CD/DVDs to buy and no trash. Environmentally friendly too.
Sorry, I don't have a better answer to your question.

8bit

"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it."
    - Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

Thanks for replying.

Yes, I might try that if I can find a spare USB pendrive (just thrown one out as it didn't work any more).

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#5 2019-08-14 18:25:51

Colonel Panic
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

ohnonot wrote:

Have you tried to burn a new copy of one of the distros DVDs in question?
Exact same .iso, new DVD?

Thanks for replying.

Yes I have (with CrunchBang Monara) but unfortunately with the same result.

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#6 2019-08-15 06:30:05

Colonel Panic
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

Would something like this work in Debian, i.e. unpack the squashfs file manually from a file on a partition and then do a manual install? If so, then I wouldn't need to use a USB drive or a DVD-R.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/437880/ … -directory

If not, don't worry; Bunsen works on my system and there are other distros I can use too (especially ones based on Debian Jessie and Slackware, though Siduction also works well).

Thanks anyway,

CP .

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#7 2019-08-15 11:43:54

eight.bit.al
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

Colonel Panic wrote:

then do a manual install?

Interesting question. Just what are the tings an installer does? Maybe start here:

What is Calamares

Further reading.

and

The Qt Installer Framework

To get an idea of what it takes.

8bit

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#8 2019-08-15 11:49:09

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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

eight.bit.al wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

then do a manual install?

Interesting question. Just what are the things an installer does? Maybe start here:

What is Calamares

Further reading.

and

The Qt Installer Framework

To get an idea of what it takes.

8bit

"I'm living so far beyond my income that we may almost be said to be living apart."
    - e e cummings (1894-1962)

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#9 2019-08-15 19:10:14

Colonel Panic
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

eight.bit.al wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

then do a manual install?

Interesting question. Just what are the tings an installer does? Maybe start here:

What is Calamares

Further reading.

and

The Qt Installer Framework

To get an idea of what it takes.

8bit

"I'm living so far beyond my income that we may almost be said to be living apart."
    - e e cummings (1894-1962)

Thanks. I've had a look at the links, but am not sure what you're suggesting or saying here. Are you saying, install calamares in Bunsen, say, and then use it to install another distro from its files on a folder within Bunsen, on a hard drive?

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#10 2019-08-15 22:15:28

eight.bit.al
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

Colonel Panic wrote:

am not sure what you're suggesting

I'm not sure exactly what it amounts to, but if you are thinking of doing a manual
install, you'll need to perform the functions the installer normally does;
hardware detection, screen resolution, install GRUB/GRUB2, partitioning, etc.

I would first learn just what those functions are by studying what installers do.
Hence the links to a couple of installer frameworks to study.

Just extracting and copying a squashfs to a drive isn't going to make it boot-able,
or have it know whats going on when it 'wakes up'.

For example:
ect/fstab has to list where the swap partition is (amongst other filesystems), the
installer normally writes that info into ect/fstab.

I have not thought about this subject before, so I may not have it exactly correct.
This just off the top of my head. Thx for asking, because a good way to really learn
something is to try and explain it to someone else.

8bit


“When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other.”
― Eric Hoffer

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#11 Yesterday 16:05:36

eight.bit.al
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Re: Certain distros failing to boot properly

While I've been a distro-hopper since =~'95, I've never looked at installers.
Your question gives me something to do while I wait for lithium to drop.!

Thx.
8bit

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P.S. Someday I'm gonna redo my website and use Juicebox to display the images

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