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#1 2019-04-12 23:31:50

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lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

And synaptic was recently pulled from buster, so the metapackage now fails...

roy@TyrellCorp:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends bunsen-meta-all
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 bunsen-meta-all : Depends: synaptic but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
roy@TyrellCorp:~$ 

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=synaptic

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#2 2019-04-12 23:49:59

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

BL "lithium" has "synaptic" as a dependency?   sad


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#3 2019-04-13 00:03:53

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

The bunsen-meta-package does ATM, John will have to respond to find out why.

The workaround is to install bunsen-utilities, bunsen-configs and bunsen-keyring. Then run apt-cache policy bunsen-* and you can choose what other candidates to install.

Remember, this isn't an ISO build and it's nothing we've officially released. This is for testers and the eager.

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#4 2019-04-13 07:57:23

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

what about muon instead of synaptic ?

$ apt show muon
Package: muon
Version: 4:5.6.0-1+b1
Priority: optional
Section: kde
Source: muon (4:5.6.0-1)
...

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#5 2019-04-13 19:39:31

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

antiX just rebuilt the Sid version for their Buster repo. It works fine if you're not running GNOME with Wayland.

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#6 2019-04-14 05:20:05

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

Cool, thanks steve. We very well might include your packages for this in lithium. smile

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#7 2019-04-15 01:32:15

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

hhh wrote:

Cool, thanks steve. We very well might include your packages for this in lithium. smile

It wasn't me! Anti and others do the packages for antiX. We do include the antiX repo for MX, so we can take advantage of it. There is a very rough pre-alpha of MX 19 out right now to discover problems with policykit-1 and gnome type programs on a Buster base if we don't boot with systemd--so far, we solved many by rebuilding policykit-1 with a patch to use elogind instead.

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#8 2019-04-26 14:45:43

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

Synaptic is back in Buster, so panic over. smile
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/synaptic


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#9 2019-04-26 14:59:32

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

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#10 2019-04-27 02:14:19

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

So do I, warts and all. Good to see Synaptic making a return to Debian! What was it that made Debian devs take Synaptic out in the first place?


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#11 2019-04-27 02:52:52

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

IIRC, the developer stopped maintaining it. Someone else must have taken it up.

/guesswork

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#12 2019-04-27 05:26:35

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

^^ & ^ It was because Synaptic didn't work with Wayland+pkexec and, worse, failed to give an error message at that time. (The default desktop in Buster is Gnome-Wayland.) The error message has been fixed, so it's back in.
See Debian bugs # 818366,824122,872553,897348 for details.

Jonathan Dowland wrote:

Message #102 received at 818366@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):
From: Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>
To: Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org>, 818366@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Trevis Schiffer <nikolaibitinit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#818366: synaptic: fails to start under Wayland
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:57:39 +0100

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:00:38PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
>I am going to raise my question again, if synaptic can't be run on the
>default desktop in the default login mode, isn't the average user better
>of if we don't ship synaptic with buster?

I think you've got that logic backwards. If the new display technology for
Buster doesn't work with long-established and popular packages in the
archive, shouldn't the default display technology for Buster be reverted
back to the current one?

@hhh The abandoned package you're thinking of is probably leafpad.

BTW I first mentioned this issue a week before: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 062#p85062

Last edited by johnraff (2019-04-27 05:53:03)


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#13 2019-04-27 07:45:10

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

John is back. big_smile Thank the Maker, it's been a bit quiet without you.

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#14 2019-04-27 14:49:04

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

johnraff wrote:

^^ & ^ It was because Synaptic didn't work with Wayland+pkexec and, worse, failed to give an error message at that time. (The default desktop in Buster is Gnome-Wayland.) The error message has been fixed, so it's back in.
See Debian bugs # 818366,824122,872553,897348 for details.

Jonathan Dowland wrote:

Message #102 received at 818366@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):
From: Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>
To: Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org>, 818366@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Trevis Schiffer <nikolaibitinit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#818366: synaptic: fails to start under Wayland
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:57:39 +0100

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:00:38PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
>I am going to raise my question again, if synaptic can't be run on the
>default desktop in the default login mode, isn't the average user better
>of if we don't ship synaptic with buster?

I think you've got that logic backwards. If the new display technology for
Buster doesn't work with long-established and popular packages in the
archive, shouldn't the default display technology for Buster be reverted
back to the current one?

@hhh The abandoned package you're thinking of is probably leafpad.

BTW I first mentioned this issue a week before: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 062#p85062

Now if someone took maintainership of Synaptic and got that bug with the error message fixed now hopefully a savior for Leafpad appears and then it can be saved next smile


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#15 2019-04-28 03:40:03

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

^Michael Vogt continues to be the synaptic maintainer as he has been for years. No-one took over.

Leafpad is indeed in need of salvation, but I'm not optimistic that anyone will take it on.


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#16 2019-04-28 04:47:48

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Re: lithium test repo failure: bunsen-meta-all depends on synaptic

Thanks for the clarification, sorry for my foggy memory. smile

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