Disk Cleanup - Optimizing disk usage [Solved]

ohnonot · 2019-01-05 09:26:14

it's been a while.

how's it going?

personally i think LVM is overkill for a netbook, but apparently the overhead is negligable.

what about the keyboard layout? is it not finnish?
maybe you can use xvkbd to get at the pipe.

XanII · 2019-01-05 09:38:06

Having the packet sizes visible and cleaning up items i don't use was enough. There is now plenty of space for the OS. Netbook not used for anything else than some comics, wiki web searches, music player etc. so quite lightweight stuff. It is some 11 years old to begin with. And putting more SSD or Ram into is just not something i want to do. Strangely though it's at the time very strong battery is still alive.

LVM is doable but don't want to reinstall everything right now. I have nuked the machine many times in the latest years so i am happy the way it is now.

Keyboard layout is in Finnish and works. I did eventually find the pipe.

ohnonot · 2019-01-05 12:04:19

i think you could mark this [SOLVED] now - just edit the title of your first post.

Bearded_Blunder · 2019-01-05 22:21:04

ohnonot wrote:

personally i think LVM is overkill for a netbook, but apparently the overhead is negligable.

Ah.. but you get the ability to do snapshots for live backup, the first distro that defaults to it with a point & click backup solution installed is going to please many users coming from Windows, which has such a solution built in.. even if there are many better free (as in beer) ones.

Setting it up using the command line & scripts under Linux is a pain. And the default install without LVM you have to image offline.

iMBeCil · 2019-01-06 10:18:25

^Well, doing the LVM live backup, with zero downtime, is not that difficult, it takes only three commands. See for example this post on forum.

Bearded_Blunder · 2019-01-06 16:38:50

Agreed, but you do need to have installed using LVM (good reason to do so) You also have to leave space in the PV for snapshots, which the installers defaults don't, How many typical users will pick "manual partitioning" during the install to set LVM up that way?

Hence PITA if you've clicked through the DI defaults, resize file system, shrink LV all command-line since system-config-lvm went away, how many typical users, even typical Linux users can face / are going to do that post install?

I'm not suggesting that any distro should NAG you to backup the way Windows does, but defaulting to a setup where you can image live and have a GUI tool to do it would be nice, and probably unique to the first distro that does it.

iMBeCil · 2019-01-06 18:40:45

^Hm ... OK?

My post had the OP in mind.

Just a note:

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

... You also have to leave space in the PV for snapshots, which the installers defaults don't ...

Well, then you don't take all the disk space with LMV partitions during initial setup, which generally is the idea of configuring LVM partitions with minimal space (and enlarge them as necessary).

EDIT: added a word, to clarify what I mean.

Last edited by iMBeCil (2019-01-06 19:45:54)

Bearded_Blunder · 2019-01-06 19:22:08

Indeed, you & I both know this and I'm not arguing, the thing is upstream.. namely the Debian installer devs haven't twigged this.. and consequently fill the PV & disable one of the main advantages in the process, unless you intervene manually, which is comparatively cumbersome.

Maybe I should file a bug upstream, category wish-list, when setting up LVM, the partitioner should have a check-box to leave 10% free for future snapshots, and maybe a field to alter the %.

I'm betting the OP clicked straight through the "Guided" (misguided?) options in the partitioner & thus doesn't have space for snapshots.. Which is to say the default setup could be improved, not that someone who knows why they want LVM can't set it up more sensibly.

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