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#676 2018-10-12 21:08:59

beaker
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ratcheer wrote:

I am bored with Fedora on my notebook PC (HP Probook). I really want to dive into something different; I'm thinking about OpenBSD.

It that likely to present huge obstacles? My main concerns are UEFI and the hybrid video system (Intel 520 onboard and AMD discrete).

Tim

Did you have any issues with sound on your Probook? (Specifically low volume from builtin  speakers.)

Currently running Solus Gnome on my Probook 650.

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#677 2018-10-16 14:44:23

ratcheer
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I chickened out on installing BSD, but I don't use sound on the notebook much, anyway.

Tim

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#678 2018-10-16 20:34:52

beaker
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ah ok re:sound. I really should try to get my hybrid graphics working on this.

I ran pcbsd a couple of years back. It was pretty good. I think it's TrueOS now. This was pre -UEFI and on 'uncomplicated' hardware tho'.

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#679 2018-10-18 20:43:56

Martin
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin


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#680 2018-10-18 21:00:47

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin

I checked out the new release today.  It's very aesthetically pleasing but too locked down for me to use it very day.


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#681 2018-10-19 04:28:38

beaker
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin


Yes. I've run loki for a year or so on one of my computers and have just upgraded to juno. Don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Very nice and smooth on the nvme ssd. As Dobbie stated, it is quite locked down.

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#682 2018-10-20 08:28:25

Martin
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beaker wrote:
Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin

Yes. I've run loki for a year or so on one of my computers and have just upgraded to juno. Don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Very nice and smooth on the nvme ssd. As Dobbie stated, it is quite locked down.

Sounds like an Apple clone: Pretty and easy to use as long as you try to do things Apple wants you to do. That is at least what I hear from colleagues with first hand experience of Apple computers.

/Martin


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#683 2018-10-20 12:56:37

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Dual booted openBSD today on an old dell optima, got it working pretty well, just a standard openbox deal with tint2 etc pretty much cheap copy of bunsenlabs in its theming and desktop/window control. Sound had me a bit confused until i understood mixerctl.

rcctl seems similar to systemctl in systemd, albeit rcctl probably much simpler in its methodology.

Updated from 6.3 to 6.4 a few days ago.

OpenBSD is a security-focused operating system with a design that emphasises correct code and accurate documentation. The project has released OpenBSD 6.4 which includes many driver improvements, a feature which allows OpenSSH's configuration files to use service names instead of port numbers, and the Clang compiler will now replace some risky ROP instructions with safe alternatives. Perhaps the most interesting feature is the unveil() system call which allows applications to sandbox themselves, blocking their own access to the file system. This is especially useful for programs which operate on unknown data which may try to exploit or crash the application: "New unveil(2) system call to restrict file system access of the calling process to the specified files and directories. It is most powerful when properly combined with privilege separation and pledge(2)." Other security improvements include: "Implemented MAP_STACK option for mmap(2); new RETGUARD security mechanism on amd64 and arm64 - use per-function random cookies to protect access to function return instructions, making them harder to use in ROP gadgets...."

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=openbsd

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#684 2018-10-21 12:02:52

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Martin wrote:
beaker wrote:
Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin

Yes. I've run loki for a year or so on one of my computers and have just upgraded to juno. Don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Very nice and smooth on the nvme ssd. As Dobbie stated, it is quite locked down.

Sounds like an Apple clone: Pretty and easy to use as long as you try to do things Apple wants you to do. That is at least what I hear from colleagues with first hand experience of Apple computers.

/Martin

no first hand experience, but a few forum posts would suggest that it breaks very easily when you start "messing around" with it.
saw a firefox install script first hand - it wasn't pretty.
but in all fairness, that was one or two years ago and they still used 0.x release numbers, suggesting beta status.

yes, people go for the "smooth mac look".
i guess it takes a few years of experience to understand that the default theme isn't the most important part of a distro.
ah well...

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#685 2018-10-24 20:24:19

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I installed the new lubuntu on a laptop as I see the latest release has defaulted to using lxqt. I've never got on with lxde. That situation hasn't changed with this new release. Everything is a bit clunky and awkward and performance isn't as good as I thought it would/should be. I feel a bit sorry for this project as I feel it should run much, much better... I wanted to be impressed.

A few hours later I noticed that a Solus Plasma testing iso has been made available for public consumption. Lubuntu got wiped and this installed in it's place. Performance is great. Looks great. The KDE ppl really have done a fantastic job. Gone are the days when KDE was a bloated beast and it runs very, very well on moderately powered hardware. Solus Plasma is staying on this laptop.

Nice job KDE and Solus.

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#686 2018-10-24 23:24:54

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Welcome to the Plasma 3.15+ Club! I can't wait for buster to freeze this January so I can have a stable version of it.

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#687 2018-10-25 01:46:31

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hhh wrote:

Welcome to the Plasma 3.15+ Club! I can't wait for buster to freeze this January so I can have a stable version of it.

You mean Plasma 5.13+ smile

Yes it is pretty darn stable on Sid so far.


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#688 2018-10-28 20:25:04

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX 2019 ALPHA uploading to SF... wink

Thanks for testing…

https://dwmx.org/dwmx-2019-alpha-release/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dwmx/

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#689 2018-10-29 01:07:14

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^ Downloading, thanks looks good.

Will you be uploading the Devuan dwmx version?


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#690 2018-10-29 12:00:08

mrneilypops
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@S7.L
Not yet... but I am aware of the interest in a Devuan version.
On my list... wink

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#691 2018-10-30 08:13:41

beaker
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've been playing around with manjaro-architect to produce a minimal openbox install ... it pretty much created a copy of archlabs with a manjaro wallpaper.

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#692 2018-10-30 11:15:57

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX development discussion forum open;

https://sourceforge.net/p/dwmx/discussion/dwmxdev/

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