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#676 2018-10-18 20:43:56

Martin
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin


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#677 2018-10-18 21:00:47

Dobbie03
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin

I checked out the new release today.  It's very aesthetically pleasing but too locked down for me to use it very day.


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#678 2018-10-19 04:28:38

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin


Yes. I've run loki for a year or so on one of my computers and have just upgraded to juno. Don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Very nice and smooth on the nvme ssd. As Dobbie stated, it is quite locked down.

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#679 2018-10-20 08:28:25

Martin
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

beaker wrote:
Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin

Yes. I've run loki for a year or so on one of my computers and have just upgraded to juno. Don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Very nice and smooth on the nvme ssd. As Dobbie stated, it is quite locked down.

Sounds like an Apple clone: Pretty and easy to use as long as you try to do things Apple wants you to do. That is at least what I hear from colleagues with first hand experience of Apple computers.

/Martin


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#680 2018-10-20 12:56:37

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Dual booted openBSD today on an old dell optima, got it working pretty well, just a standard openbox deal with tint2 etc pretty much cheap copy of bunsenlabs in its theming and desktop/window control. Sound had me a bit confused until i understood mixerctl.

rcctl seems similar to systemctl in systemd, albeit rcctl probably much simpler in its methodology.

Updated from 6.3 to 6.4 a few days ago.

OpenBSD is a security-focused operating system with a design that emphasises correct code and accurate documentation. The project has released OpenBSD 6.4 which includes many driver improvements, a feature which allows OpenSSH's configuration files to use service names instead of port numbers, and the Clang compiler will now replace some risky ROP instructions with safe alternatives. Perhaps the most interesting feature is the unveil() system call which allows applications to sandbox themselves, blocking their own access to the file system. This is especially useful for programs which operate on unknown data which may try to exploit or crash the application: "New unveil(2) system call to restrict file system access of the calling process to the specified files and directories. It is most powerful when properly combined with privilege separation and pledge(2)." Other security improvements include: "Implemented MAP_STACK option for mmap(2); new RETGUARD security mechanism on amd64 and arm64 - use per-function random cookies to protect access to function return instructions, making them harder to use in ROP gadgets...."

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=openbsd

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#681 2018-10-21 12:02:52

ohnonot
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Martin wrote:
beaker wrote:
Martin wrote:

Anyone given Elementary a spin?

/Martin

Yes. I've run loki for a year or so on one of my computers and have just upgraded to juno. Don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Very nice and smooth on the nvme ssd. As Dobbie stated, it is quite locked down.

Sounds like an Apple clone: Pretty and easy to use as long as you try to do things Apple wants you to do. That is at least what I hear from colleagues with first hand experience of Apple computers.

/Martin

no first hand experience, but a few forum posts would suggest that it breaks very easily when you start "messing around" with it.
saw a firefox install script first hand - it wasn't pretty.
but in all fairness, that was one or two years ago and they still used 0.x release numbers, suggesting beta status.

yes, people go for the "smooth mac look".
i guess it takes a few years of experience to understand that the default theme isn't the most important part of a distro.
ah well...

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#682 2018-10-24 20:24:19

beaker
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I installed the new lubuntu on a laptop as I see the latest release has defaulted to using lxqt. I've never got on with lxde. That situation hasn't changed with this new release. Everything is a bit clunky and awkward and performance isn't as good as I thought it would/should be. I feel a bit sorry for this project as I feel it should run much, much better... I wanted to be impressed.

A few hours later I noticed that a Solus Plasma testing iso has been made available for public consumption. Lubuntu got wiped and this installed in it's place. Performance is great. Looks great. The KDE ppl really have done a fantastic job. Gone are the days when KDE was a bloated beast and it runs very, very well on moderately powered hardware. Solus Plasma is staying on this laptop.

Nice job KDE and Solus.

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#683 2018-10-24 23:24:54

hhh
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Welcome to the Plasma 3.15+ Club! I can't wait for buster to freeze this January so I can have a stable version of it.

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#684 2018-10-25 01:46:31

DeepDayze
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

Welcome to the Plasma 3.15+ Club! I can't wait for buster to freeze this January so I can have a stable version of it.

You mean Plasma 5.13+ smile

Yes it is pretty darn stable on Sid so far.


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#685 2018-10-28 20:25:04

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX 2019 ALPHA uploading to SF... wink

Thanks for testing…

https://dwmx.org/dwmx-2019-alpha-release/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dwmx/

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#686 2018-10-29 01:07:14

S7.L
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^ Downloading, thanks looks good.

Will you be uploading the Devuan dwmx version?

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#687 2018-10-29 12:00:08

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@S7.L
Not yet... but I am aware of the interest in a Devuan version.
On my list... wink

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#688 2018-10-30 08:13:41

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've been playing around with manjaro-architect to produce a minimal openbox install ... it pretty much created a copy of archlabs with a manjaro wallpaper.

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#689 2018-10-30 11:15:57

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX development discussion forum open;

https://sourceforge.net/p/dwmx/discussion/dwmxdev/

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#690 2019-01-16 20:23:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

My history with distro's
1998 - 2001 Red Hat
2001 - 2004 Debian
2004 - 2007 Ubuntu
2007 - 2011 Debian again
2011 - 2015 Crunchbang
2015 - 2019 XUbuntu
2019  Bunsenlabs


You have to do stuff that average people don't understand because those are the only good things (Andy Warhol)

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#691 2019-01-16 22:49:15

hhh
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^ Nice. Over 20 years with a Linux desktop. Darth Vader... Impressive, most impressive.

Thanks for trying BL!

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#692 2019-01-17 10:23:45

cherkie
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Giving Arch a go now, tempted to go ArchLabs as I have gotten very used to open desktop.

I have no need for overcomplicated menus, using mouse slows me down.

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#693 2019-01-17 13:55:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I just realized last night that if all I want is desktop-flavored Debian Stable (maybe with a backports kernel) and something that ran awesome (my WM of choice) well, that I should probably just stop fussing with Ubuntu and come back to BL.


--Ben
BL / MX / Raspbian... and a whole bunch of RHEL boxes. :)

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#694 2019-01-17 18:38:26

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX-2019-ALPHA4

2019-01-17-184602_1920x1080_scrot.th.png

* added nnn file manager
* added jgmenu [Super_L key]
* added VLC
* kernel 4.19-x
* transfer.sh installed

https://dwmx.org/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dwmx/files/
https://kiwi.seedhost.eu/mrneilypops/ISO/

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#695 2019-01-17 21:50:48

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^looking good. Will take it for a spin smile

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#696 2019-01-18 12:18:32

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@malm
Thanks...look forward to your thoughts.

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#697 2019-01-18 12:38:36

unklar
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX1.th.png

I'm thrilled.  big_smile

@mrneilypops,
Thank you very much for your excellent work.  cool
I'm looking for something "light", but I was afraid to install it on HDD right away. Especially because I don't know the refracta-installer yet.
(but I already found something in the net).

So here is my result as Live-dwmX in QEMU.
The handling is still very unusual for me, because I am not familiar with dmenu and jgmenu.

You offer next to Default, Italy. So am I correctly assuming that I can only install the German language packages with ceni after the installation and setup of the network?

Thank you!

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#698 2019-01-18 13:37:55

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar
I am pleased you are happy.
dwm does take some getting used to that is one reason I have included jgmenu in addition to dmenu.
Don't forget the ratfactor guide;
http://ratfactor.com/slackware/dwm/

unklar wrote:

You offer next to Default, Italy. So am I correctly assuming that I can only install the German language packages with ceni after the installation and setup of the network?

de_DE locale is available at install;

Screenshot-from-2019-01-18-14-35-39.th.png

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#699 2019-01-18 14:19:32

unklar
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

mrneilypops wrote:

dwm does take some getting used to that is one reason I have included jgmenu in addition to dmenu.

very wise decision. That helps me a lot.  smile
Therefore, thanks also to @malm . That looks good and the font is also good to read (for my old eyes).  wink

dpkg-reconfigure locales I found
I need another tip from you on the German keyboard layout. Can I also choose this during the installation ?

Thanks

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#700 2019-01-18 17:10:30

mrneilypops
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar

Screenshot-from-2019-01-18-18-07-37.th.png

I would recommend a test install in VirtualBox, for example, in order to check out the settings.

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