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#651 2018-06-07 18:35:31

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

martix wrote:

I think this is the most popular BSD distro on distrowatch

Not according to the user reviews: OpenBSD is at number 8 (yay!), TrueOS is at 119:

http://distrowatch.org/dwres.php?resource=ranking

EDIT: also, there are no BSD "distributions" — OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD & DragonFly BSD are all distinct operating systems in their own right and they have their own kernel and userspace tools. TrueOS is to FreeBSD as Ubuntu is to Debian.

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#652 2018-06-08 12:20:36

martix
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
martix wrote:

I think this is the most popular BSD distro on distrowatch

Not according to the user reviews: OpenBSD is at number 8 (yay!), TrueOS is at 119:

That's a good point, as I was thinking of the page hit ranking. TrueOS is on the 11th place right now, FreeBSD on the 34th and OpenBSD is on the 77th. Manjaro is on the first place, stunning development.

Technically speaking there might be actually BSD distributions as it's possible to run e.g. Debian on top of FreeBSD (and "D" stands for distribution in BSD). On the other hand it's indeed different with BSD, it's not supposed to be "bsd distro" even if the term "bsd distro" is in use all over the net (correct or not) when referring to a BSD OS (on the TrueOS review page alone a dozen times).

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#653 2018-06-22 18:01:48

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

KDE Neon running Plasma 5.13.0. I'm so impressed. It's an amazing DE, KDE has done outstanding work on this release...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 787#p73787

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#654 2018-07-06 17:56:41

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Calling all Alpine linux experts!!!

I tried several times to install Alpine v3.80 x86_64 to SSD today.
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation
I tried Alpine Standard ISO and Alpine Extended ISO.
https://alpinelinux.org/downloads/
On each attempt I had a kernel panic on boot with 'rootfs not found'...[sorry no logs]
Grub updates and detects Alpine without obvious issue...[triple boot system Arch/Void/Alpine(with a bit of luck roll) ]

EDIT: I also tried manual partioning in advance of install ie. /dev/sdb1 boot EXT2 /dev/sdb2 SWAP /dev/sdb3 / EXT4

inxi -F
Destination SSD /dev/sdb

What could I be missing in the install?

I am keen to try Alpine on the desktop due to low RAM usage and fast boot...for example...

Thanks all in advance for any tips/pointers.

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#655 2018-08-29 23:23:11

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Hello there! Just going to let my question loose to see if anyone has a good advice:

I bought a MacBook Pro on 2012, brand new and all, I still have it running at 100% to this day (Only a HDD replacement and a RAM upgrade).

At first I only used MacOS mainly because I didn't know anything about Linux. But life leads you to surprising places and as I studied High School I started learning to code. One thing led to another and I ended up installing Xubuntu on my MBP. I fell in love, how smooth and clean Linux was, so I started my journey as distrohopper, as of today I have succesfully installed Linux over MacOS (or another distro) 16 times. I've tested Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, Kali and obviously Bunsenlabs (my favourite). Recently I had no choice but to install MacOS because some programs that I need for college were not running adequately on Bunsenlabs (or not at all) Ex. Office, Proteus, and others specialized on engineering.

Now the real question is, what do you suggest? Do I install Bunsenlabs again and fight with some programs?, is it worthless because MacOS is, at the end of the day and deep deep down, a beautified Linux?

Currently I have an HDD of 500GB partitioned half MacOS High Sierra and half Windows 10 (Some of those damn programs doesn't even run on MacOS...) and 16GB of RAM.

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#656 2018-08-30 05:12:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

ValiantLucatero wrote:

Office, Proteus, and others specialized on engineering.

Now the real question is, what do you suggest? Do I install Bunsenlabs again and fight with some programs?, is it worthless because MacOS is, at the end of the day and deep deep down, a beautified Linux?

if anything, macos is a beautified BSD!

anyhow, we should look at the applications and see if we can't find a native linux replacement.
only then should you try to run those that can't be replaced through wine (assuming they have a windows version).
if that doesn't work either you could try a windwos virtual machine. maybe it will run under windows xp, which is available for free these days afaiu, and much lighter than subsequent versions.

Office - you mean like MS Office? why isn't libreoffice good enough?

Proteus - this one?

in my experience, ALL functionality is available on linux natively, but sometimes the path to a workable solution is different:
various smaller (even command line) programs, instead of one "suite", a window manager with powerful shortcuts and a little shell scripting...

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#657 2018-08-30 06:31:31

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

ohnonot wrote:

if anything, macos is a beautified BSD!

That's right.

ohnonot wrote:

anyhow, we should look at the applications and see if we can't find a native linux replacement.
only then should you try to run those that can't be replaced through wine (assuming they have a windows version).
if that doesn't work either you could try a windwos virtual machine. maybe it will run under windows xp, which is available for free these days afaiu, and much lighter than subsequent versions.

Ok... this sounds like a very viable solution! big_smile

ohnonot wrote:

Office - you mean like MS Office? why isn't libreoffice good enough?

Yeah. Because of the functionality of inserting equations and collaborative work over the internet. Besides, if you edit a file created under Office Word on LibreOffice it will change some little aspects of the document, and viceversa. This doesn't appear on your side, but if I send it to my classmates that use Office Word it will be a MESS...

ohnonot wrote:

Proteus - this one?

Yes, that one, I know there are a lot of "alternatives" but this is a very specialized software, it does things that no other PCB editor can... at least the ones I could find...

ohnonot wrote:

in my experience, ALL functionality is available on linux natively, but sometimes the path to a workable solution is different:
various smaller (even command line) programs, instead of one "suite", a window manager with powerful shortcuts and a little shell scripting...

I'm glad to hear that, I REALLY love Bunsenlabs and having it as my main OS will be my priority on the next intersemester. I have to do some research to find ways to cancel or at leat minimize the situations I described above (the VM idea and wine are pretty good!). I've had this dilema for a long time and you are convincing me...
Thank you very much!


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#658 2018-08-30 17:01:07

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#659 2018-09-10 23:02:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I frequently install new distros, but within days I find myself reinstalling Bunsenlabs and restoring my system from backup.

I've grown very attached to Bunsenlabs smile

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#660 2018-09-11 05:22:15

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^you’re not the only one. big_smile

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#661 2018-09-11 18:31:09

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

https://www.elivecd.org/news/elive-3-0- … -released/
I remember trying Elive for a short time back in 2009. Haven't touched Enlightenment since. Good time to give it a spin.

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#662 2018-09-11 18:42:01

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

nore wrote:

https://www.elivecd.org/news/elive-3-0- … -released/
I remember trying Elive for a short time back in 2009. Haven't touched Enlightenment since. Good time to give it a spin.

I believe Enlightenment is now at E22 so from what I hear it's gotten a lot better.


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#663 2018-09-11 22:44:04

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malm wrote:

^you’re not the only one. big_smile

Dude, I flipping hate Openbox. No wallpaper, static menu, and seven font settings just for Openbox, separate from lxappearance, which itself sets fonts in 2 different locations (font, anti-aliasing). But Helium has so much right going for it OOTB that I can use it for days without even feeling the urge to change anything.

Also, it's the best LIVE install of Debian stable out there in terms of non-free packages and RAM usage, in my admittedly biased opinion.

Steve P. with MX Linux has a right to argue that bold boast. smile

PS: @Steve P, thank you for your contribution and continued participation in our forums, it is greatly appreciated. And congrats on the great success of MX, have you seen your DistroWatch ranking?

On my browser your at #5, up 1481 over the last six months!

https://www.distrowatch.com/

-edit- Nice, BL has moved up to 60. We're flat (neither up nor down in page hits on the home page), but that's up in position from 73 just 2 months ago.

Damn, just for us to be in the top 100 on DistroWatch is impressive.

-edit- Dobbie's ArchLabs is down in page hits, but still at an incredible spot, 36.

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#664 2018-09-12 06:06:24

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hhh wrote:

-edit- Dobbie's ArchLabs is down in page hits, but still at an incredible spot, 36.

Yeah I don't really worry about the Distrowatch hits to be honest.  I have been judging our popularity by forum traffic which is decent.

I have really minimised our social presence too, no Facebook, Reddit or anything else other than the forum, twitter and a couple of the forum guys alongside Nate looking after G+.

Our hits always go through the roof with a new release, though we have no plans for a release for at least another couple of months.

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#665 2018-09-12 06:48:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I surf Reddit a bit. I don't even follow r/BunsenLabs though. People suck, screw people.

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#666 2018-09-12 09:57:23

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
nore wrote:

https://www.elivecd.org/news/elive-3-0- … -released/
I remember trying Elive for a short time back in 2009. Haven't touched Enlightenment since. Good time to give it a spin.

I believe Enlightenment is now at E22 so from what I hear it's gotten a lot better.

It is. Sparky Linux has it available as well.
There is also a 3rd party Enlightenment repo available for Debian if you want E22 compiled with Wayland support.

Last edited by PackRat (2018-09-12 12:54:07)


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#667 2018-09-12 12:20:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I am bored with Fedora on my notebook PC (HP Probook). I really want to dive into something different; I'm thinking about OpenBSD.

It that likely to present huge obstacles? My main concerns are UEFI and the hybrid video system (Intel 520 onboard and AMD discrete).

Tim

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#668 2018-09-13 04:56:39

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

re eLive: ugh, look at their websites frontpage!
i'd rather recommend Bodhi i think, though i cannot think why they had to fork enlightenment.
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ratcheer wrote:

It that likely to present huge obstacles?

i tried it in a vm recently and was totally flabbergasted by how differently packages are managed. everything seems to be following a different paradigm, even the documentation.
maybe not a huge obstacle, but i just gave up (i was only playing around).

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