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#21 2018-07-15 00:56:42

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Re: KDE on BL

The only gotcha I had was the network applet. Install plasma-nm and reboot, done.

I've edited my previous post with those instructions.


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#22 2018-07-15 01:02:56

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Re: KDE on BL

I'll also add, continue to use lxappearance to set GTK themes. DO NOT use the KDE interface, it will crash the settings app. All other appearance settings should be via KDE when in the KDE session.


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#23 2018-07-15 02:48:58

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Re: KDE on BL

Plasma 5.13 has an automatic update notification from the app Discover which also has a panel applet. If you run apt get update before Discover updates, it will activate the app and you'll be locked out of sudo on your terminal.

It's a bit weird, just let the update app handle it and all should be good. You have to click the panel icon when it appears.

If you set the Plasma theme to Breeze-dark, the icon is invisible, FYI. You'll see a blank space in the systray instead, click it.


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#24 2018-07-15 03:23:04

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:

I'll also add, continue to use lxappearance to set GTK themes. DO NOT use the KDE interface, it will crash the settings app. All other appearance settings should be via KDE when in the KDE session.

So it is OK to use lxappearance in the KDE session to set the theme for GTK apps you run in KDE, and the KDE Settings app for all other settings?


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#25 2018-07-15 03:24:13

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:

Plasma 5.13 has an automatic update notification from the app Discover which also has a panel applet. If you run apt get update before Discover updates, it will activate the app and you'll be locked out of sudo on your terminal.

It's a bit weird, just let the update app handle it and all should be good. You have to click the panel icon when it appears.

If you set the Plasma theme to Breeze-dark, the icon is invisible, FYI. You'll see a blank space in the systray instead, click it.

Would be nice if you can disable that feature if you want to update it the regular way. Is disabling the KDE auto update feature possible?


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#26 2018-07-15 04:02:07

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Re: KDE on BL

^ Trying to figure that out now. I just had an upgrade, terminal worked fine and I couldn't figure out the KDE app.


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#27 2018-07-15 04:13:30

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Re: KDE on BL

DeepDayze wrote:
hhh wrote:

I'll also add, continue to use lxappearance to set GTK themes. DO NOT use the KDE interface, it will crash the settings app. All other appearance settings should be via KDE when in the KDE session.

So it is OK to use lxappearance in the KDE session to set the theme for GTK apps you run in KDE, and the KDE Settings app for all other settings?

Isn't that exactly what I said? big_smile Yes, UAYOR (use at your own risk).


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#28 2018-07-15 04:16:38

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Re: KDE on BL

DeepDayze wrote:

Is disabling the KDE auto update feature possible?

This looks like it, it's working for me...

sudo apt purge --autoremove plasma-discover

Logout.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde/plasma-discover

I'll confirm when the next upgrade comes through, tomorrow.


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#29 2018-07-15 17:51:19

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Is disabling the KDE auto update feature possible?

This looks like it, it's working for me...

sudo apt purge --autoremove plasma-discover

Logout.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde/plasma-discover

I'll confirm when the next upgrade comes through, tomorrow.

Great, and if purging plasma-discover works I'll remember to do that first thing after  I install KDE.


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#30 2018-07-15 21:43:56

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Re: KDE on BL

DeepDayze wrote:

Great, and if purging plasma-discover works...

I've had 2 batches of upgrades today and I haven't had a systray notification or interference of apt in any way. Works for me.


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#31 2018-07-15 22:28:22

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Great, and if purging plasma-discover works...

I've had 2 batches of upgrades today and I haven't had a systray notification or interference of apt in any way. Works for me.

Nice.


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#32 2018-07-16 17:19:51

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Re: KDE on BL

Plasma 5.13.2 has hit buster...

https://packages.debian.org/buster/plasma-workspace

I've managed a dual-session setup on sid, let's see if I can do the same on buster...


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#33 2018-07-16 19:43:01

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:

Plasma 5.13.2 has hit buster...

https://packages.debian.org/buster/plasma-workspace

I've managed a dual-session setup on sid, let's see if I can do the same on buster...

Boo-yah...

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#34 2018-07-16 19:58:06

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Re: KDE on BL

Awesome and if by dual session you mean that openbox and KDE can coexist well on same install. Going to give this a shot in a test partition on a spare hard drive to see if I can replicate your test.


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#35 2018-07-16 21:37:57

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Re: KDE on BL

Right, adding a Plasma session to Bunsen Buster (an Unofficial Walk-through)...

1) Upgrade helium to buster...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=5007

2) Install a minimal Plasma desktop...

sudo apt install plasma-workspace plasma-nm && sudo apt purge --autoremove plasma-discover

3) Move and rename ~/.conkyrc to ~/.config/conky/default.conkyrc and set it as your conky via Main Menu>Preferences>Conky>conky chooser (or similar, I'm in the KDE session ATM).

4) Reboot, make sure you boot into the KDE session at the login screen.

5) You should have a working Plasma desktop and pressing your Windows key should open the panel Main Menu.

It's a nice menu. Type touchpad and the Touchpad Settings app should appear, open it and set your tap, scrolling and Pointer Motion speed settings.

6) Configure the desktop. So. many. settings.


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#36 2018-07-16 22:03:25

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Re: KDE on BL

DeepDayze wrote:

Awesome and if by dual session you mean that openbox and KDE can coexist well on same install.

Of course. Wouldn't be much of a dual-session without that, would it?

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#37 2018-07-17 02:29:35

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:

Right, adding a Plasma session to Bunsen Buster (an Unofficial Walk-through)...

1) Upgrade helium to buster...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=5007

2) Install a minimal Plasma desktop...

sudo apt install plasma-workspace plasma-nm && sudo apt purge --autoremove plasma-discover

3) Move and rename ~/.conkyrc to ~/.config/conky/default.conkyrc and set it as your conky via Main Menu>Preferences>Conky>conky chooser (or similar, I'm in the KDE session ATM).

4) Reboot, make sure you boot into the KDE session at the login screen.

5) You should have a working Plasma desktop and pressing your Windows key should open the panel Main Menu.

It's a nice menu. Type touchpad and the Touchpad Settings app should appear, open it and set your tap, scrolling and Pointer Motion speed settings.

6) Configure the desktop. So. many. settings.

Sounds like a nice way to get KDE without being too bloated.


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#38 2018-07-17 08:51:40

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Re: KDE on BL

hhh wrote:

Right, adding a Plasma session to Bunsen Buster (an Unofficial Walk-through)...

Going to try this. Looks very interesting.


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#39 2018-07-19 03:07:49

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Re: KDE on BL


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#40 2018-07-24 02:54:04

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Re: KDE on BL

OK installed plasma-desktop as recommended by hhh, but transparency is hard to achieve not even a transparent panel. Seems transparency is not obvious for the panel but menus and dialogs I can adjust transparency in systemsettings. Any ideas?

Also Nitrogen does not recognize plasmashell as a valid WM either.

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