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#1 2018-07-03 05:56:05

natnaree
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Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

Dear contributors,

I am Natnaree Asavaseri and currently undertaking a research internship at Nara Institute of Science and Technology, Japan. As a part of my research, I am analyzing the impact of Microsoft's acquisition of GitHub.

I would like to conduct a survey to understand how developers perceive the Microsoft's acquisition of GitHub, especially from contributors to Linux distributions and BSD families. So please consider voicing your opinion by allowing us up to 5 minutes to complete our short survey. 

https://goo.gl/forms/lbIL5qsinDRQyTaK2

We would like to remind you that participation in this survey is completely voluntary and your identity is hidden for anonymity. Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Natnaree
Nara Institute of Science and Technology, Japan

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#2 2018-07-03 07:09:38

brontosaurusrex
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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

Done.

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#3 2018-07-03 15:16:24

verndog
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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

ArchLinux was not impressed:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=238487
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=238489

For what its worth. Unsure of reasoning...prehaps
"Spam/Advertising/Solicitation"

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#4 2018-07-03 16:36:03

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

that's the third time now.
not impressed, either.
if at least it wasn't on google forms.
come on, some good old research leg work!
letting google do the lifting in itself creates bias about the topic asked, because google is involved in these things.

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#5 2018-07-04 04:21:44

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

Answered, though without email address FWIW.

As far as I know, Google is not involved in either GitHub or Microsoft.
@ohnonot I suppose it depends on exactly what you mean by "these things".


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#6 2018-07-04 08:24:29

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

johnraff wrote:

@ohnonot I suppose it depends on exactly what you mean by "these things".

well to me going away from github was no choice at all when i heard that microsoft would take it over.
the biggest competitor (the one that A LOT of people migrate to from github - mostly small/medium projects i guess) is gitlab, it seems.
gitlab is using google at least for some of its stuff.
i retrieved that link a few weeks ago, then they were also still using microsoft azure, but now it seems they abandoned that in favor of more google.
as of now this starts to look a lot like a MS vs Google thing.
i guess similar situations apply to the other large competitors.

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#7 2018-07-04 08:41:26

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

GitLab's just another company.
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 382#p74382
MS vs Google vs Apple...


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#8 2018-07-04 15:03:11

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

johnraff wrote:

GitLab's just another company.
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 382#p74382
MS vs Google vs Apple...

Exactly! All the fuss over one company vs another. Arch had some great take on this issue.
MS, Google, Apple, aren't the enemy. Are going to stop driving that Ford, Chevy, etc because its a money making cooperation?

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#9 2018-07-04 15:46:54

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

It's different https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm and it is about trust (largely). Also imho github is Ferrari and not just some boring Ford (so that would be another big difference).

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#10 2018-07-04 16:23:20

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Also imho github is Ferrari...

So it breaks down a lot?

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#11 2018-07-04 16:36:07

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

^ Well yeah, this orange to apple comparisons don't really hold well.

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#12 2018-07-04 23:36:11

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

People are upset over nothing yet. What has MS done that merits the concern? Just the fact that MS bought Gitlab has caused hubbub of phantom issues.

What is the problem? Where is the problem. I don't see anything MS has done regarding Gitlab that has caused such concern.

Name the issue.

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#13 2018-07-05 03:07:21

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

I don't think MS will do anything drastic, at least for a couple of years, because they don't want to scare off the huge GitHub user base (includes some Debian packages).

By the time it starts to look iffy there might well be a better option available...


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#14 2018-07-05 07:02:29

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

verndog wrote:

People are upset over nothing yet. What has MS done that merits the concern? Just the fact that MS bought Gitlab has caused hubbub of phantom issues.

What is the problem? Where is the problem. I don't see anything MS has done regarding Gitlab that has caused such concern.

Name the issue.

Farmer's wife: There's a fox approaching the henhouse!
Farmer: But he hasn't done anything yet, so what is the problem? (goes back to sleep)

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edit1: alright, let's try to answer these questions.
i'm not upset - i'm simply not going to use github for my own stuff anymore.
i was already teetering on the fence when github changed their privacy policy a while back, now it's no choice at all really.
as to "What has MS done that merits the concern?" - i think history can answer that. how old are you? do you need links to some articles?

edit2: oops, you wrote gitlab - i assumed you meant github?

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#15 2018-08-07 14:21:04

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

Dear contributors,

I am happy to announce that we are ready to release preliminary results of the "Developer Perception to Microsoft's acquisition of GitHub" survey. These results can be accessed at "https://naist-se.github.io/study-of-mic … quisition/". Again thank you for your participation and please feel free to share or discuss these results.

Natnaree
NAIST, Japan

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#16 2018-08-08 07:23:57

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

the result is clearly favourable to my own opinions, although i didn't participate.

afaics, op posted their question to +/- 100 forums and 38 mailing lists, and 240 participated.
that's not much.

i just wish there would have been another way apart from google forms, and/or that op would have taken the time to include some of the forum discussions in the survey results. not in the graphs obviously, but in the surrounding narrative.

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#17 2018-08-08 09:41:18

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

Nice of them to post the results though - for the vast majority of these web-surveys you never hear what happened to your input.

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#18 2018-08-08 10:21:56

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

True, however I can't grasp even a slight significance of the output, It means what it meant before, anything can happen with 8.5 billion moneys.

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#19 2018-08-09 06:18:12

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Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

^ i wouldn't say that; what is clear and obvious to us forum dwellers, isn't fot the majority of people.
remember, the point was to explore the perception ("opinion"?) of a particular type of people (us, basically).

Jimbo_G wrote:

Nice of them to post the results though

yeah i forgot to add a little "thank you" to my previous post.
i think op handled that pretty well from start til end (despite my initial criticism).

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