[OUTDATED] BunsenLabs Helium RC1 ISO image

PackRat · 2018-04-25 16:06:54

vinzv wrote:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
The BunsenLabs team is pleased to announce the availability of our RC1 ISO image for Helium, the next release (based on Debian 9).
Awesome job guys!
All files mirrored here: https://mirror.vinzv.space/bunsenlabs/helium/rc1/

And it's working just fine. Downloaded from the mirror. Boot UEFI and live session all good, everything working out of the box.

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-04-26 06:08:50

johnraff wrote:

So it looks as if we might be OK with -2 and Noto Sans Mono
Shall we put in the lineSpace: 1 too?

Yes and yes

johnraff · 2018-04-26 09:38:58

johnraff wrote:

Font is Noto Sans Mono...

Unfortunately, there is no such font as Noto Sans Mono. :8
What I was getting was the nearest match, DejaVu Sans Mono.

I spent this afternoon trying all the monospace fonts that we install by default - there aren't many and none of them are perfect for urxvt, as it turns out. The Noto Mono that I thought I was testing earlier passed the man bash vertical separator test, but mangled some bold capital letters together in the titles. (With letterSpace -2 that is, -1 is too wide, whatever font, except Ubuntu Mono which we don't provide anyway.)

Finally, DejaVu Sans Mono looked like the best option, and it's a fairly well-respected font I think. fonts-dejavu came in my test system as a Recommends: of urxvt, so we'd have to add it back to the iso install list; fonts-dejavu-core would be enough in fact. The type size in Terminator and urxvt is no longer exactly the same, but I can't find any way of achieving that and having clean font display on urxvt.

...sigh...

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tknomanzr · 2018-04-26 17:29:39

It would be Noto Mono.

johnraff · 2018-04-27 05:03:52

This is what comes of hurrying to meet a deadline I suppose, but I still hadn't got it completely sorted out yesterday. I did some more experimenting on a laptop last night, and imported the result on a VM here to test.

johnraff wrote:

letterSpace ... -1 is too wide

Not actually true. With Inconsolata it does make the letter spacing too wide (and -2 had those rendering issues) but with the other mono fonts available in Helium by default - Noto Mono, Liberation Mono and DejaVu Sans Mono (via urxvt) - 'letterSpace: -1' makes the character spacing just right. What made me think it was too wide was that urxvt's window geometry is measured in characters not pixels, so going from -2 to -1 makes the window too big. The character spacing - at least with Noto, DejaVu or Liberation - is fine, and the window geometry just needs adjusting. lineSpace is no longer needed either.

Personally, maybe I slightly prefer DejaVu to Noto, and Liberation after that, but everyone has their own preferences (it's a pity about Inconsolata's width) so I propose we use Noto Mono which is in the same family as our default serif and sans-serif fonts, and won't need any new packages to be installed.

The .Xresources section I'm just about to edit - yet again - looks like this:

! "monospace" is an alias defined in ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
URxvt.font: xft:monospace:size=10
URxvt.boldFont: xft:monospace:bold:size=10
! Add fallback fonts as laid out in `man 1 urxvt` under "font:" in the RESOURCES section

URxvt.letterSpace: -1
!URxvt.lineSpace: 1
! The letterSpace and lineSpace settings are highly dependent on the font(s) configured above
! and should be changed or removed as necessary.

! Window size and position
!URxvt*geometry: 60x22+50+100
! Window size, let the Window Manager position it
URxvt.geometry: 83x35

And fonts.conf:

    <alias>
        <family>monospace</family>
        <prefer>
            <family>Noto Mono</family>
        </prefer>
    </alias>

johnraff wrote:

The type size in Terminator and urxvt is no longer exactly the same, but I can't find any way of achieving that and having clean font display on urxvt.

In fact it's OK. The Terminator and Urxvt windows are now identical.
Why so much fuss about a non-default terminal? I'd like new adopters who switch from Terminator to urxvt to get as good a first impression as possible, that's all.

cog · 2018-04-27 07:25:40

John have you tried the ttf-hack-font?? It’s real similar to Ubuntu Mono.

It’s what KDE defaults to in Konslole.

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hhh · 2018-04-27 07:39:32

This will go horribly off-topic and will need to be split, but...

johnraff wrote:

Why so much fuss about a non-default terminal? I'd like new adopters who switch from Terminator to urxvt to get as good a first impression as possible, that's all.

I use lxterminal by default due to it's lightness and easy GUI configs, but I think rxvt-unicode is flipping fantastic and it's what I would use as default, with copy/paste functionality added (easily done), if I made a distro.

Why did corenominal choose Terminator? What are it's distinct qualities?

johnraff · 2018-04-27 07:48:10

hhh wrote:

Why did corenominal choose Terminator? What are it's distinct qualities?

A great topic for a new thread - go for it!!

You are of course aware that the choice of a default terminal emulator has been the subject of intense, prolonged discussion, both here and on CrunchBang? For every urxvt enthusiast (yrs trly included) there's a Terminator fan. Whenever we suggested switching from Terminator to something a bit lighter there were so many suggestions for different terminals (yes lxterminal included) that it soon degenerated into chaos. Still, Terminator must have some good qualities, and the only thing anywhere near a consensus that we could reach was to stay with it as the default.

BTW urxvt already has copy/paste: Ctrl+Alt+{C,V}

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hhh · 2018-04-27 07:58:56

johnraff wrote:

BTW urxvt already has copy/paste: Ctrl+Alt+{C,V}

By default now? Bravo!

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=4767

johnraff · 2018-04-27 14:18:11

cog wrote:

John have you tried the ttf-hack-font?? It’s real similar to Ubuntu Mono.

Thanks! I grabbed the fonts-ubuntu deb from Buster (installed OK) but didn't know about Hack. Set as default monospace on my system, looking good.

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dmontaine · 2018-04-29 01:30:08

Running RC1 on Lenovo X1 Carbon. Set power settings for lid closure to "Switch off display". Setting is being ignored and laptop is going to sleep when lid is closed. Worked correctly on Deuterium.

Last edited by dmontaine (2018-04-29 01:30:44)

dmontaine · 2018-04-29 02:10:28

Note: I was able to get the system to stay alive on a lid close by setting the Light Locker, Automatically lock the session setting to "Never" and unchecking "Lock screen when system going to sleep" (on the Security Tab of the XFCE Power Manager window).

Last edited by dmontaine (2018-04-29 02:14:48)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-04-29 10:41:16

dmontaine wrote:

Set power settings for lid closure to "Switch off display". Setting is being ignored and laptop is going to sleep when lid is closed.

Check /etc/systemd/logind.conf and the output of `systemd-inhibit` to see what is handling the suspend.

martix · 2018-04-29 20:15:57

dmontaine wrote:

Note: I was able to get the system to stay alive on a lid close by setting the Light Locker, Automatically lock the session setting to "Never" and unchecking "Lock screen when system going to sleep".

Thanks a lot! Sleep on lid-close was really annoying, but those settings fixed it for me too.

Other thing that may happen sometimes is that bluetooth turns on, if on battery it was turned off and power supply gets plugged in.

nobody · 2018-04-29 20:25:08

martix wrote:

Other thing that may happen sometimes is that bluetooth turns on, if on battery it was turned off and power supply gets plugged in.

Is bluetoothd (bluez) running? In conjunction with network-manager it should persist the setting you put for Bluetooth (disabled or enabled) (at least it does in nm-plasma/KDE). It may be that the EC turns the Bluetooth on and not an OS service.

martix · 2018-04-30 16:12:55

^I see. No, I don't have bluetoothd. If the bluetooth-light is up, I just turn it off with rfkill as I don't need it. Probably it'd be better for me to turn it off on bios level...

Pink Unicorn · 2018-04-30 16:17:39

I was hopping to see final version this week but I think It won't happen that quick

hhh · 2018-04-30 18:26:22

Pink Unicorn wrote:

I was hopping to see final version this week but I think It won't happen that quick

The official release announcement will be tomorrow, May Day.

Pro Tip, it's already out...
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

But keep hopping!

malm · 2018-04-30 18:55:16

Hooray! Great effort.

hhh · 2018-04-30 20:17:59

Released, thread closed.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=4772

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