dist-upgrade helium to sid (unofficial)

hhh · 2018-04-19 03:30:34

This was pretty easy, and it took under an hour on a 24 mbps wifi connection using a fresh install of our pre-release helium image(s)...

As root, open /etc/apt/sources.list , change the source in line #7 from stretch to sid and comment out the other sources...

# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 _Helium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20180418-17:51]/ stretch contrib main non-free

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 _Helium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20180418-17:51]/ stretch contrib main non-free

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main non-free contrib

## Debian security updates
#deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib non-free

# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free

Update via a terminal...

sudo apt update

lightdm will be upgraded. I didn't want to deal with any issues of upgrading the display manager while it was running, so I didn't. Drop to tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2-F6). Login and switch to root...

sudo -s

Kill lightdm...

service lightdm stop

Upgrade, this took me 45 minutes on my slow-ish connection...

apt upgrade

Finally, dist-upgrade and reboot (this doesn't take long)...

apt dist-upgrade

reboot

hhh · 2018-04-19 03:44:57

Pic or it didn't happen...

The only difference I can see so far is the new panel logout/shutdown icon.

cloverskull · 2018-04-19 05:10:18

Doesn’t it make sense to remove all other apt sources (like Bunsen, for example) when doing this?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-04-19 06:01:00

I used to add the experimental repositories when I ran sid, they're useful to pull in new fixes and it's pinned to 1 by default (just like backports).

altman · 2018-04-19 15:44:12

Congrats there Head_on_a_Stick! Didn t make the plunge to sid, juste Buster today. Even so got some apt-marks on

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hhh · 2018-04-19 17:09:28

cloverskull wrote:

Doesn’t it make sense to remove all other apt sources (like Bunsen, for example) when doing this?

It does make sense, but I was curious to see what would break. So far, nothing.

@earlybird, I'll investigate, thanks.

pnmixer has dropped the option to choose themes, now it's either system theme or the default panel icon, so our white WiFi panel icons aren't being picked up. Not a game-breaker, and not an issue if you use a different icon theme on your system.

hhh · 2018-04-19 17:43:01

hhh wrote:

@earlybird, I'll investigate, thanks.

There's quite a large version jump from stretch to sid...
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=tint2

The icon options are in damo's default config, starting at line #222...

# Buttons - Panel item = P
# Exit dialog
button = new
button_icon = /usr/share/images/bunsen/exit/light/poweroff.png
#button_icon = system-shutdown
button_text =
button_tooltip = Logout/Shutdown...
button_lclick_command = bl-exit
button_rclick_command =
button_mclick_command =
button_uwheel_command =
button_dwheel_command =
button_font_color = #ffffff 100
button_padding = 2 2
button_background_id = 0
button_centered = 1
button_max_icon_size = 28

If I comment those lines out and restart tint2, the next icon in the tint2 config appears, root-menu (line #240)...

# Show Root Menu
button = new
button_icon = bunsenlabs-button.svg
button_text =
button_tooltip = Main Menu
button_lclick_command = xdotool key super+space
button_rclick_command =
button_mclick_command =
button_uwheel_command =
button_dwheel_command =
button_font_color = #ffffff 100
button_padding = 2 2
button_background_id = 0
button_centered = 1
button_max_icon_size = 28

Comment those out, restart tint2, and the only panel difference is the pnmizer icon size and color. So everything seems OK, we'll just need to tweak our settings for lithium.

I'll test our stretch-backport later, but I'm confident it will be the same.

hhh · 2018-04-19 18:21:57

gksu has finally been removed in buster. The Thunar menu option, File>Open as root, works fine. I guess this uses pkexec?

pkexec thunar

WFM

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-04-20 05:59:25

^ We're already using that in Helium-dev, I think 8)

vinzv · 2018-04-20 11:40:08

^ Yep: https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … ngelog#L90

DeepDayze · 2018-04-21 02:39:43

Looks quite interesting to see how upgrading to Sid would work from Helium. Maybe if someone were to ask the pnmixer devs about why they dropped the icon theme support from pnmixer then maybe it could come back in some form.

DeepDayze · 2018-04-21 03:33:19

OK looks good just upgraded my desktop to Bun-Sid and so far looks good. I was using the system theme so I set pnmixer to use the system them and looked like it was when on Stretch. Have to tweak the font sizes a bit in tint2.

DeepDayze · 2018-04-21 03:56:57

Here's my desktop after upgrading to Sid:

One good thing I did was to use a Siduction kernel as I've been running Siduction for some time before and the kernels supplied with Siduction were darn solid.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2018-04-21 03:58:29)

altman · 2018-04-21 12:44:15

Nice install DeepDayze.

DeepDayze · 2018-04-21 13:50:50

altman wrote:

Nice install DeepDayze.

Thanks, it was basically stock Helium dist-upgraded to Sid (reinstalled a few packages that got removed). I also have an HP 8460p laptop that has Hydrogen upgraded inplace to Helium and opted to have that remain on plain Helium.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2018-04-21 13:54:29)

hhh · 2018-04-21 20:52:47

DeepDayze wrote:

I was using the system theme so I set pnmixer to use the system them and looked like it was when on Stretch.

You're using Paper-dark-mono, which isn't the default helium icon theme (Paper-Bunsen is), but I can confrim that the mono systray icons all look uniform. Thanks for the heads, up!

We'll open a thread if necessary on the issue. Too soon, ATM, as we're about to release helium. We are trying to get set up for lithium dev now, though, as opposed to when butch's release-date has already been announced.

To be fair, life really got in the way of the BL Team over the last year, but development is in good shape now.

Well, cool! After switching to mono, switching back to Paper-Bunsen is showing our custom pnmixer icon! Some glitch somewhere with dist-upgrading, obviously, we'll deal with it when the time comes.

altman · 2018-04-21 23:17:46

DeepDayze wrote:

altman wrote:
Nice install DeepDayze.
Thanks, it was basically stock Helium dist-upgraded to Sid (reinstalled a few packages that got removed). I also have an HP 8460p laptop that has Hydrogen upgraded inplace to Helium and opted to have that remain on plain Helium.

Nice installs.Some experiments in there.

Did you have to reinstall Grub ! Have all 4 Grubs on hold on Buster Lab as well as klibc & other ones.

Wonder if I can remove them & reinstalling them can be ok. I don t want to reinstall . Some times it s faster than trying to fix it. I m not as good as some of you guys.

hhh · 2018-04-21 23:28:50

^ If you install a second OS to dual-boot, the new grub becomes default but it should show your other OS, or more than one other if you have more, in the new grub menu. Just boot into the OS that you want as default that has grub installed and install it to your main drive (or wherever you install grub on your system).

Example, I checked gparted (Main Menu>System>GParted) and my hard drive is /dev/sda1, so...

sudo -s

Enter your password and...

grub-install /dev/sda1

update-grub

Reboot. You should see your other installs in the new boot-splash grub menu or sub-menu entries.

altman · 2018-04-21 23:47:47

Thx , great tip in there hhh.

Edit1, guess I ll have only one install per lappy , anyways , always on BL .

Edit2: Typo

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hhh · 2018-04-22 00:24:58

Thanks for being a loyal BL user!

On a personal note, I'm not a huge fan of the somewhat archaic Openbox window manager. For about the last five years I've run a minimal Xfce or Mate desktop (also somewhat archaic, admittedly) on Debian with great results. However, I'm rather thrilled with helium. It is one of the easiest, if not THE easiest, OOTB minimal Debian desktops I've ever used in terms of installation, resource usage and ease of use.

Bonus, Openbox is great WM to use on sid. At least one thing won't be getting updates that can break stuff!

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