Host a website

iMBeCil · 2017-11-03 07:42:40

^From 'ps ax' output, I can say that your Apache server (daemon) is not running. (It should be seen as '/usr/sbin/apache2' or similar.)

Did you do:

$ sudo systemctl restart apache2

What was the output of this command?
Can you perhaps inspect apache log files (there are two: one for logging access, another for logging errors)?

bjmag94 · 2017-11-03 08:31:57

iMBeCil wrote:

^From 'ps ax' output, I can say that your Apache server (daemon) is not running. (It should be seen as '/usr/sbin/apache2' or similar.)
Did you do:
$ sudo systemctl restart apache2
What was the output of this command?
Can you perhaps inspect apache log files (there are two: one for logging access, another for logging errors)?

It brings back a blank command, localhost now works in URL but not my domain name

bjmag94 · 2017-11-03 09:11:34

Okay my URL is now loading, but only from inside my network, how do I allow public access?
Do I add to the .conf file?

AllowOverride All
Require all granted

?

BLizgreat! · 2017-11-03 09:37:34

Thank you, I would pay for hosting but money is tight at the moment, and would rather do it from my own PC, and it doesn't violate my terms with my ISP, I have already been in contact with them.

That's good to hear, me being a less than trusting of many corporate types person. May not take xyz customer service rep at their word either though. Ahhhh sure, you're good go ahead. Another department notices the usage and says, hmmmmm you're not good bud. Could be just overly paranoid on my part.

Either way think learning this stuff locally on your own system is a good starting point anyway. Just read a lot during the process and keep a closer eye, when you finally do get around to making it an actual forward facing accessible box and start opening it up to outside connection. Cause then it'll be exposed to all the web nasties out there trying to hack a persons system(s).

Really don't think it's the end of the world no matter what. Eventually once you're getting more familiar then always have the option of taking it to the next level. Some VPS's which only run a couple bucks a month. If your VPS gets compromised and borked, then it's the providers box that's borked ... not yours. You can always get some kind of support to wipe it and reinstall your VPS OS and start again.

As well as actually having to learn about remote admin'ing the thing with SSH and command line etc. Either way sincerely wishing you best of luck and experience with this. No matter what you're bound to accumulate some valuable skills and tech know how during your efforts.

Possibly also start playing with alternatives like nginx, as the web-server. Meant to but I never made it very far into learning about it. It's still on the 2dork-list though.

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iMBeCil · 2017-11-03 13:40:27

bjmag94 wrote:

Okay my URL is now loading, but only from inside my network, how do I allow public access?
Do I add to the .conf file?
AllowOverride All
Require all granted
?

No. It is question of your connection to your 'ISP'.
How exactly are you connected to the internet? Do you have static or dynamic IP? Are you connected to the internet via wireless access point (router/gateway)?

If you are 'normal' (private) ISP customer, then you most probably have WiFI access point with the dynamic IP address; do the following:
- configure your wifi router to route incoming traffic on port '80' to your local IP with the apache server (so called 'port forwarding')
- discover your public IP with, for example, here

Now, ask somebody on different ISP connection to check if http://your-publicIP-from-second-step/ works.
(For example, you could connect to internet via mobile phone for this step.)

Note: this business with 'public-IP' probably isn't the solution you want, since this public IP is most probably reset to new (random) value once in a day.

bjmag94 · 2017-11-03 14:00:47

iMBeCil wrote:

bjmag94 wrote:
Okay my URL is now loading, but only from inside my network, how do I allow public access?
Do I add to the .conf file?
AllowOverride All
Require all granted
?
No. It is question of your connection to your 'ISP'.
How exactly are you connected to the internet? Do you have static or dynamic IP? Are you connected to the internet via wireless access point (router/gateway)?
If you are 'normal' (private) ISP customer, then you most probably have WiFI access point with the dynamic IP address; do the following:
- configure your wifi router to route incoming traffic on port '80' to your local IP with the apache server (so called 'port forwarding')
- discover your public IP with, for example, here
Now, ask somebody on different ISP connection to check if http://your-publicIP-from-second-step/ works.
(For example, you could connect to internet via mobile phone for this step.)
Note: this business with 'public-IP' probably isn't the solution you want, since this public IP is most probably reset to new (random) value once in a day.

Yes connected via wi-fi, umm not sure if I have a dynamic or static IP, I have never really taken any notice, and my modem is on 24/7.
Port forwarding all set up, has been for a while since I started using wamp..
I only used 127.0.0.1 for the IP with that, and that could be accessed publicly.
I will turn my modem off then back on to work out if it is static or dynamic

bjmag94 · 2017-11-03 14:11:51

It didn't change after turning the modem/router off and back on, so I would guess that it is a dynamic IP

iMBeCil · 2017-11-03 14:14:33

^OK, then fnnd out what is your public IP, and try to connect to that address.

However, I don't know if it will work from your local IP, since you are in the network where port 80 is forwarded ... (actually, I cannot remember should it work or not).

If you want, send me your public IP address on PM (not here on forum!), and I can try to connect.

bjmag94 · 2017-11-03 14:47:14

iMBeCil wrote:

^OK, then fnnd out what is your public IP, and try to connect to that address.
However, I don't know if it will work from your local IP, since you are in the network where port 80 is forwarded ... (actually, I cannot remember should it work or not).
If you want, send me your public IP address on PM (not here on forum!), and I can try to connect.

Okay so set the IP in the hosts files? Then try to connect?

bjmag94 · 2017-11-03 14:59:02

What I might do is do a fresh install of BL 8, that way I can start it all now from scratch, and hopefully get it all up and running.
Thank you, then go from there, and work out stuff via google, which has been my friend, just not everything is helping me, or I am doing things wrong haha

iMBeCil · 2017-11-03 17:05:59

bjmag94 wrote:

iMBeCil wrote:
^OK, then fnnd out what is your public IP, and try to connect to that address.
However, I don't know if it will work from your local IP, since you are in the network where port 80 is forwarded ... (actually, I cannot remember should it work or not).
If you want, send me your public IP address on PM (not here on forum!), and I can try to connect.
Okay so set the IP in the hosts files? Then try to connect?

No. Discover your public IP address, and then try to open web browser and enter

http://your-public-IP-address/

in your browser. If it works, then it means that your page is accessible from outside.

iMBeCil · 2017-11-03 17:08:57

bjmag94 wrote:

What I might do is do a fresh install of BL 8, that way I can start it all now from scratch, and hopefully get it all up and running.

This is completely normal ... I remember when I was setting up my very first (web) server ... I have had several reinstall. That's why I like virtual machines and snapshots

You're welcome.

bjmag94 · 2017-11-04 02:47:48

iMBeCil wrote:

bjmag94 wrote:
What I might do is do a fresh install of BL 8, that way I can start it all now from scratch, and hopefully get it all up and running.
This is completely normal ... I remember when I was setting up my very first (web) server ... I have had several reinstall. That's why I like virtual machines and snapshots
You're welcome.

Thank you, umm I have it all pointed to go to my DIR but it is showing default apache2 page?
I have deleted the www folder and still no change, also do I need the www folder?

bjmag94 · 2017-11-04 02:54:14

Sorry that was the html folder not he www folder

hhh · 2017-11-04 05:09:51

Administrator note (hhh), moved to Administration, this is beyond the scope of basic help and support.

In addition, I don't think this is the right forum for this question as it's a rather complex topic that's not necessarily even Linux related, but that's just my opinion and we're pretty tolerant, so feel free to continue.

BLizgreat! · 2017-11-04 23:13:25

It didn't change after turning the modem/router off and back on, so I would guess that it is a dynamic IP

That it didn't change in doing that indicates you do have a static IP for your connection. Seems highly probable you'd definitely have encountered issues while using WAMP to access your system remotely, if you ever had a dynamic IP. Mentioned a work around for those w/o static IP, DDNS = dynamic domain name server setup.

I used to use that trick of shutting down modem to change IP and get a new one assigned to jump ban on various forums/chats. Really annoying getting shutdown right in the middle of a good flamewar or cyber-brawl. Esp when ya got the other guy on the ropes and closing in for the kill.

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bjmag94 · 2017-11-04 23:29:22

BLizgreat! wrote:

It didn't change after turning the modem/router off and back on, so I would guess that it is a dynamic IP
That it didn't change in doing that indicates you do have a static IP for your connection. Seems highly probable you'd definitely have encountered issues while using WAMP to access your system remotely, if you ever had a dynamic IP. Mentioned a work around for those w/o static IP, DDNS = dynamic domain name server setup.
I used to use that trick of shutting down modem to change IP and get a new one assigned to jump ban on various forums/chats. Really annoying getting shutdown right in the middle of a good flamewar or cyber-brawl. Esp when ya got the other guy on the ropes and closing in for the kill.

I actually didn't encounter any issues with WAMP.
Only problems I had was error messages, so I turnt error reporting off in the php.ini file and that fix that, all the errors were just because I am half way through converting to mysqli.
I have no problem with my site loading remotely, it's just not displaying what I have in my DocumentRoot, it is displaying from the html directory..
I have tested this as I put a index.html file in there stating that it was connected to that directory, and the directory I pointed it to, actually has all my files in it..
So is there anything else I need to change beyond that tutorial I posted?
I have gone through all the conf files, and everything like that, and can't seem to work it out..
My site is http://reunited-city.com

brontosaurusrex · 2017-11-04 23:57:33

Post your virtualsite. conf, guide you followed looks legit.

Last edited by brontosaurusrex (2017-11-04 23:58:27)

bjmag94 · 2017-11-05 00:01:46

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Post your virtualsite. conf, guide you followed looks legit.

<VirtualHost 58.178.200.239:80>
	ServerAdmin admin@reunited-city.com
	ServerName reunited-city.com
	ServerAlias www.reunited-city.com
	DocumentRoot /var/www/reunited-city.com/public_html

	
	ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log
	CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined
</VirtualHost>

# vim: syntax=apache ts=4 sw=4 sts=4 sr noet

brontosaurusrex · 2017-11-05 00:16:52

Not sure, but I would try:

Ditch the ip, use *:80
Quote the "domain.com"

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