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#1461 2017-06-09 18:27:04

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

DeepDayze wrote:

Sounds like now Microsoft is trying to get a full blown Linux distro to run within Windows and run Linux apps like a Windows one.

It's the future, I've tasted it:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 776#p49776

Apparently some have managed to get the X server running from the Ubuntu userspace...

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#1462 2017-06-13 20:46:52

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

^ Nice smile

I think Pioneer is actually still within the Solar system: the Ooort Cloud goes out to 100,000AU and poor old Pioneer 10 is only at ~114AU, although that may be outside the termination shock (depending on the direction).

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#1463 2017-06-16 06:45:25

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Forget KASLR, my OpenBSD-current box now builds each new kernel by compiling and linking in a non-deterministic order producing a randomised kernel that is unique to each machine.

Theo de Raadt explains:

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=149732026405941

KARL — Kernel Address Randomised Link  cool

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#1464 2017-06-18 06:00:53

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^

Our immune systems work better when they are unique.  Otherwise one
airline passenger from Singapore with a new flu could wipe out Europe
(they should fly to Washington instead).

Our computers should be more immune.

lol lol lol

I can imagine the conversation;
Theo de Raadt: We're so far ahead of the curve.
Henning Brauer: Yeah, we just don't know what to do with ourselves anymore.
Mike Larkin: F*** it! Let's randomize the friggin kernel!!

-- mod edit: shhhhhh kiddies. wink  - like 'they' don't know ---

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#1465 2017-06-20 05:40:35

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Being off topic, but isn't this topic off topic in the first place.
Trying to live only in linux console when I don't need to read a PDF or something. Framebuffer is still the console, right? Right? Surprisingly, the web is still very "hypermedia" even on links2 on graphics mode. Currently typing from it. tongue


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#1466 2017-06-20 06:11:48

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

GutsAndGlory! wrote:

Surprisingly, the web is still very "hypermedia" even on links2 on graphics mode.

i think this is one of the perks of using linux.
stone age software is still being developed...

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#1467 2017-06-20 07:08:11

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GutsAndGlory! wrote:

Framebuffer is still the console, right? Right?

Oh yes, very much so.

X server < Wayland < framebuffer (IMO) 8)

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#1468 2017-06-20 08:37:55

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

GutsAndGlory! wrote:

Framebuffer is still the console, right? Right?

That's what I call an inside joke.

"In 1974 Evans & Sutherland released the first commercial framebuffer, costing about $15,000. It was capable of producing resolutions of up to 512 by 512 pixels in 8-bit grayscale, and became a boon for graphics researchers who did not have the resources to build their own framebuffer."

I suspected that Links2 is a console based browser (like lynx), but had to searx for it in order to be sure.

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#1469 2017-06-20 20:19:34

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root@Diproton:~ # sed -i 's/stretch/buster/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
root@Diproton:~ # apt update
Ign:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:2 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release
Ign:4 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Head_on_a_Stick:/Helium/Debian_9.0  InRelease
Hit:5 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Head_on_a_Stick:/Helium/Debian_9.0  Release
Hit:7 https://crawl.develz.org/debian crawl InRelease
Hit:3 http://eu.pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen InRelease
Hit:9 https://liquorix.net/debian sid InRelease
Get:10 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [91.1 kB]
Get:11 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.0 kB]
Get:12 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease [25.5 kB]
Hit:13 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
Get:14 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/main i386 Packages [7,076 kB]
Get:15 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages [7,101 kB]
Get:16 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/main Translation-en [5,533 kB]
Get:17 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/main i386 Contents (deb) [32.1 MB]
Get:18 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Contents (deb) [32.2 MB]
Get:19 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib i386 Packages [49.2 kB]
Get:20 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib amd64 Packages [52.5 kB]
Get:21 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib Translation-en [47.5 kB]
Get:22 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib amd64 Contents (deb) [105 kB]
Get:23 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib i386 Contents (deb) [101 kB]
Fetched 84.6 MB in 35s (2,415 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
96 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
root@Diproton:~ # apt-get dist-upgrade

Oh yes  cool

EDIT: it rebooted into the buster base and the only thing broken is the icon set:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 065#p54065

Nice!

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#1470 2017-06-23 16:36:35

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

earlybird wrote:

Woah.

mpv is caught up in a transition to a LGPL core, and in the process, lots of recent development involved requesting agreement of original  authors who contributed under the GPL to relicense files to LGPL.

Due to disagreements and (or) difficulties in reaching everybody, heaps of code and options are getting removed at the moment, e.g. this monster commit. While it's due to commercial interests and the project is largely driven by developer time paid for by an interested company, this crippling of such a  nice and wholesome piece of software is a bit disheartening.

[...]

player/audio.c still does not compile. We'll have to redo audio
filtering. Once that is done, we can probably actually provide an
actual LGPL configure switch.

[...]

anders has mostly disagreed with the LGPL relicensing. Does not want
libaf to become LGPL, but made some concessions. In particular, he
granted us permission to relicense 4943e9c and 242aa6e. We also
consider some of his changes remaining in mpv not relevant for copyright
(such as 735de60 - we won't remove the this option completely). We will
completely remove his other contributions, including the entire audio
filter chain. For now, this stuff is marked as GPL only. The remaining
question is how much code in player/audio.c (based on the former
mplayer.c and dec_audio.c) is under his copyright. I made claims about
this in a previous commit.

Removing the entire audio filter chain big_smile The reason I watch movies through mpv and not Netflix in Chrome is precisely because of that chain; I'm using it to make 5.1/7.1/whatever  audio highly enjoyable on my head phones. So, I'll probably stop using newer mpv code from now on until the situation ameliorates.

What a waste of time and code.

Agreed, this is like taking an axe when just a scalpel may be needed.


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#1471 2017-06-23 16:49:44

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

earlybird wrote:

OH my ... and I'm using it because you got me onto it.  I LOVE it ... best video player out there!

 23 Jun 17 @ 13:46:23 ~
   $ list mpv
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
mpv/oldstable,now 0.6.2-2 amd64 [installed]

 
 23 Jun 17 @ 13:46:27 ~
   $ hld mpv
[sudo] password for sector11:
 
 23 Jun 17 @ 13:46:35 ~
   $ 

How does this affect mpv in stretch?


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#1472 2017-06-28 12:54:31

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#1473 2017-06-28 16:28:52

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^ absolutely no need to apologize.  We've been wondering when or if anyone would ever ask.

So in fact, we've been waiting for you.  wink


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#1474 2017-06-28 18:50:02

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yea, yea, semantics - but take it as a phrase "he is an at home user" - if you had a laptop, you could be in a coffee shop.

{which all boils down to a better way of saying: OOPS! I goofed that up!}   lol lol


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#1475 2017-06-29 03:46:06

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

You too, Eon, see you around.


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#1476 2017-06-29 04:07:35

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Wow man I have been lurking for quite a while but never really posted, How ya'll been?


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#1477 2017-06-29 06:27:48

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Hey C#Coder4ever, how's tricks?

We're still fighting the cruft (and losing)  smile

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#1478 2017-06-29 07:37:23

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Welcome back C#Coder4ever, Long time no see ya... Hope you're doing good! smile

Here on BL family, things went well on my eyes.

Glad to see you back mate!


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#1479 2017-06-29 14:27:48

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Good to know, I've been doing okay, but unfortunately now it's only my servers that run linux, and my secondary laptop actually runs OpenBSD so... 8o

But yeah, lots has happened, I got an internship, so I get to play with linux professionally lol


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#1480 2017-06-29 19:25:16

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C#Coder4ever wrote:

my secondary laptop actually runs OpenBSD so... 8o

Snap!

Puffy: ~ $ uname -a
OpenBSD Puffy.lan 6.1 GENERIC.MP#63 amd64

That's my primary laptop though...

I only use Arch for games  neutral

lol.

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