[DONE] RFT experimental beep-free Deuterium amd64 and i386 isos

hhh · 2017-05-12 04:49:57

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

linux_user wrote:
Did any one face a problem with CapsLock?
Try removing line 35 in ~/.config/openbox/autostart

Freaking brilliant troubleshooting there, ace!

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-05-12 06:30:43

^

Actually, I was wondering why we added that line?

Should it not have a comment at the start?

johnraff · 2017-05-12 06:44:43

The guy you want to ask is right there^^ It was hhh's suggestion I seem to recall, but capslock annoys so many people that it certainly made sense at the time.

linux_user · 2017-05-12 07:12:18

I think from a general perspective it has to be commented. CapsLock should be left as it is. I do acknowledge that some people find CapsLock annoying, but I guess they always have the option to disable it.

In my opinion, it's much better to leave it as it is for a larger userbase, rather than change it for a smaller section of people.

linux_user · 2017-05-13 03:53:22

Is it just me or everyone that's seeing a spacer on the notification area (between sound and network icons)?

Screenshot

Another thing I noticex is, Alt+Print, takes a screenshot of the page. RC.xml specifies that the image has to be saved in ~/Pictures/screenshots. But the folder screenshots doesn't exist by default inside the Pictures The files are saved in the home folder instead.

Ideally, if there is any fix it should create the folder automatically while taking a screenprint using Alt+Print.

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johnraff · 2017-05-13 07:43:47

@linux_user thank you for your feedback - it's always appreciated.

linux_user wrote:

I do acknowledge that some people find CapsLock annoying, but I guess they always have the option to disable it. In my opinion, it's much better to leave it as it is for a larger userbase, rather than change it for a smaller section of people.

At the time we thought the people who found capslock annoying were the majority! If it looks as if a lot of people would prefer the default setup we can go back to that.

Is it just me or everyone that's seeing a spacer on the notification area (between sound and network icons)?

That happens on a desktop system (no battery) with fdpowermon installed, which is the default BL setup. If you run bl-welcome (it should start automatically after the first install) it will detect a desktop machine and offer to remove fdpowermon. Then the space will disappear.

Another thing I noticex is, Alt+Print, takes a screenshot of the page. RC.xml specifies that the image has to be saved in ~/Pictures/screenshots. But the folder screenshots doesn't exist by default inside the Pictures

~/Pictures/screenshot in fact should exist by default. However, this will not be the case if you install BL packages over a pre-existing system. Then you'll have to make the directory yourself I'm afraid (or edit rc.xml). If you look in /usr/share/bunsen/skel you'll see the default files and directories that a new user will get.

linux_user · 2017-05-13 11:07:37

johnraff wrote:

At the time we thought the people who found capslock annoying were the majority! If it looks as if a lot of people would prefer the default setup we can go back to that.

I am trying to understand who is this iso built for? I am not sure it's for general public, cos it looks to be customized according to the tastes of certain people/members. So, I'd leave the choice going back or not upto you. But if you intend to keep CapsLock as Ctrl, I would suggest a mention somewhere so that the user understands it. A good place to start would be the pop up in live system, "a placeholder for live system". After all there is nothing so much worth mentioned in it.

That happens on a desktop system (no battery) with fdpowermon installed, which is the default BL setup. If you run bl-welcome (it should start automatically after the first install) it will detect a desktop machine and offer to remove fdpowermon. Then the space will disappear.

Ah, I had run bl-welcome but it stopped right after system upgrade. Didn't run it again though. Ran sudo remove fdpowermon rebooted the system and the space has disappeared.

~/Pictures/screenshot in fact should exist by default. However, this will not be the case if you install BL packages over a pre-existing system. Then you'll have to make the directory yourself I'm afraid (or edit rc.xml). If you look in /usr/share/bunsen/skel you'll see the default files and directories that a new user will get.

I had reinstalled over an old OS, but it was completely removed and disks formatted into new partitions. In such case, a user expects a freshly new OS with the usual defaults. It would be a good idea to fix this as this issue is not know to all and simply raises questions. Alt+Print took the screen shot, opened up mirage but it always said that the image cannot be opened while they were saved in a different location. As I said, it would be a good idea to fix it.

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ector1935 · 2017-05-13 13:02:38

linux_user wrote:

Is it just me or everyone that's seeing a spacer on the notification area (between sound and network icons)?
http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot … 959ist.php
Another thing I noticex is, Alt+Print, takes a screenshot of the page. RC.xml specifies that the image has to be saved in ~/Pictures/screenshots. But the folder screenshots doesn't exist by default inside the Pictures The files are saved in the home folder instead.
Ideally, if there is any fix it should create the folder automatically while taking a screenprint using Alt+Print.

I installed 3 days ago,I do not like what you decrypt,scrot save the image in the right folder,as you can see from the sceenshot.
regards

alt print,save in foder screenshots

screenshot atl+print saved

Last edited by ector1935 (2017-05-13 13:15:02)

linux_user · 2017-05-13 14:07:47

ector1935 wrote:

I installed 3 days ago,I do not like what you decrypt,scrot save the image in the right folder,as you can see from the sceenshot.
regards
alt print,save in foder screenshots
https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2017/05/13/2017-05-13--1494680763_1600x900_scrot.th.png
screenshot atl+print saved
https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2017/05/13/2017-05-13-15-11-06_scrot.th.png

Was it was a fresh install? As @johnraff said,

~/Pictures/screenshot in fact should exist by default. However, this will not be the case if you install BL packages over a pre-existing system. Then you'll have to make the directory yourself I'm afraid (or edit rc.xml). If you look in /usr/share/bunsen/skel you'll see the default files and directories that a new user will get.

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johnraff · 2017-05-14 03:56:23

linux_user wrote:

johnraff wrote:
At the time we thought the people who found capslock annoying were the majority! If it looks as if a lot of people would prefer the default setup we can go back to that.
I am trying to understand who is this iso built for? I am not sure it's for general public, cos it looks to be customized according to the tastes of certain people/members.

CrunchBang was made to suit the tastes of one person, Philip Newborough. Anyone else was free to use it if they wanted to.

So, who is BunsenLabs made for? Well, we like to think it might be the same kind of people who liked CrunchBang - and there were a lot of them. That's a pretty nebulous definition, but generally the team have tried to use "common sense" as to what settings to make, and we have paid close attention to feedback we get on the forums (like yours )

About capslock, you can find many, many posts on the internet about how to disable it, and how so many people find it annoying. We thought the majority of our users would appreciate having it disabled, but as I said above, these points are always up for review if it seems a sizable number of our users want something changed. Especially, when it comes to changing a default setting, that's normally only done if we think there's a big majority in favour.

linux_user · 2017-05-14 08:11:36

johnraff wrote:

CrunchBang was made to suit the tastes of one person, Philip Newborough. Anyone else was free to use it if they wanted to.
So, who is BunsenLabs made for? Well, we like to think it might be the same kind of people who liked CrunchBang - and there were a lot of them. That's a pretty nebulous definition, but generally the team have tried to use "common sense" as to what settings to make, and we have paid close attention to feedback we get on the forums (like yours )

John, I didn't mean who was BL made for? I meant who this particular iso was made for (which is slightly different from the usual iso provided in the BL website)? As I notice there are certain customization/changes made from the iso on the mail download page. Hence I am assuming that it was for certain members in this forum, like you and me, with certain additional elements like memtest etc... that this iso was made.

johnraff wrote:

About capslock, you can find many, many posts on the internet about how to disable it, and how so many people find it annoying. We thought the majority of our users would appreciate having it disabled, but as I said above, these points are always up for review if it seems a sizable number of our users want something changed. Especially, when it comes to changing a default setting, that's normally only done if we think there's a big majority in favour.

Indeed, I don't expect the change to be made for smaller majority. I just told my feedback from my UX standpoint. Anyway, it's how many that prefers setting A that matters . If majority of the user prefer caplock to be disabled, so be it.

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johnraff · 2017-05-14 08:35:38

linux_user wrote:

I meant who this particular iso was made for (which is slightly different from the usual iso provided in the BL website)?

These were experimental isos for testing by our users before they became the standard BL isos, which they now are: https://www.bunsenlabs.org/installation.html#downloads

linux_user · 2017-05-14 12:16:21

johnraff wrote:

These were experimental isos for testing by our users before they became the standard BL isos, which they now are: https://www.bunsenlabs.org/installation.html#downloads

Ah I see.

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