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#81 2015-10-26 22:54:14

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

ozitraveller wrote:

Stretch is about to go aplha 4 soon too!

Happy so far / StretchLab , will see what it s doing for the next days .


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#82 2015-10-27 08:36:52

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

^Stretch alpha 4 in this case refers to the installer.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= … -I-Alpha-4

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#83 2015-10-27 11:32:46

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

dolly wrote:

^Stretch alpha 4 in this case refers to the installer.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= … -I-Alpha-4

Thanx , appreciated .


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#84 2015-10-27 21:00:17

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#85 2015-10-29 07:58:12

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

When you dist-upgraded your BunsenLabs RC1 to Stretch or Sid, how did you answer the questions on issue, issue.net and lsb-release, when Apt was installing the system? In your upgraded system, what is the contents of /usr/lib/os-release?

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#86 2015-11-09 01:15:27

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

BunsenLabs + smxi + sid + liquorix kernel

PLEASE NOTE: YOUR MILEAGE MIGHT VARY WITH THIS PROCEDURE.
IT COULD EAT YOUR HAMSTER! big_smile  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Install BunsenLabs and choose your options from the welcome script.
'Less is more' as we are going to be upgrading to Sid...

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to look like the following using your preferred local mirror;

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8 _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150909-03:19]/ jessie contrib main non-free

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8 _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150909-03:19]/ jessie contrib main non-free

deb http://debian.mirror.root.lu/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://debian.mirror.root.lu/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib

#deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb http://debian.mirror.root.lu/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://debian.mirror.root.lu/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free

# added by bl-welcome
# Multimedia repository
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free

->Change 'jessie' instances to 'sid'

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid  main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free

->Comment (#) 'volatile'
->Comment (#) security updates.

Install smxi
In my humble opinion this script is a masterpiece of the Linux world

# as root, run the following command
cd /usr/local/bin && wget -Nc smxi.org/smxi.zip && unzip smxi.zip && smxi

Run smxi as root;

CTL+ALT+F1 (tty1)
login
sudo su -
smxi

An excellent guide to smxi from my friend VastOne on the old crunchbang forums;
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=22740

Follow through the smxi script to upgrade to Sid.
During the upgrade it is OK to accept default options.

*Reboot*

Welcome to Sid!
Note: xfce-power-manager displays an icon in tint2...I kept it...

*see hhh comment #87 below regarding fdpowermon

Test your applications for any issues on Sid.

At this point you could simply run with Sid but if you really want to live on the 'dark side'  wink  let's try and install the Liquorix kernel

*Reboot*

Run smxi again as root and select;
'kernel options'
'add liquorix sources'
'install apt-kernel' (liquorix)

*Reboot*

At this point you might experience a 'green screen of death' and a flashing cursor/error message regarding 'nvidiafb'. Your hamster will also start to shake!

Don't worry wink ...we have to disable the inbuilt kernel module 'nvidiafb' when using the liquorix kernel.
This has happened on my hardware multiple times with various distros...including my own 'distrolettes', when installing the Liquorix kernel.
Note: I am not sure of the absolute issue with nvidiafb here...perhaps someone can enlighten me??


*Reboot will be a hard reboot*

From grub boot the Debian Sid or Debian Jessie kernel.

sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/nvidiafb.conf

In this file enter;

blacklist nvidiafb

save file

* Reboot*

If all has gone to plan you should now boot to Sid+Liquorix kernel.

Enjoy! cool

My simplicity conky will show the installed Liquorix kernel and the latest Liquorix kernel available

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 7202#p7202

Screenshot_2015_11_08_10_29_15.jpg

desktop scrot as of NOV-15

2015_11_08_18_22_00_scrot.jpg


Note: I have not experienced any issues thus far with BunsenLabs running on Sid and Liquorix...

Note: I will update here with further info snippets

Last edited by mrneilypops (2015-11-11 13:01:17)

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#87 2015-11-09 02:26:47

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

mrneilypops wrote:

Note: xfce-power-manager displays an icon in tint2...I kept it...

Make sure you're not running fdpowermon as well, which is what displays battery information on a default rc1 install. Upgrading xfce4-power-manager to stretch, sid or our backported version restores the xfce4-power-manager icon to the systray. You can then remove fdpowermon from your system.


I don't care what you do at home. Would you care to explain?

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#88 2015-11-09 05:32:05

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

@hhh
Thanks for the info.

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#89 2015-11-09 07:55:13

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

mrneilypops wrote:

Don't worry wink ...we have to disable the inbuilt kernel module 'nvidiafb' when using the liquorix kernel.
This has happened on my hardware multiple times with various distros...including my own 'distrolettes', when installing the Liquorix kernel.
Note: I am not sure of the absolute issue with nvidiafb here...perhaps someone can enlighten me??

See this post (and others in the thread) by the redoutable stevepusser (@stevo on the MEPIS forums) on forums.debian.net:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 34#p578466

Just to note: IMO (and in stevepusser's opinion), the Liquorix kernel is actually "safe" to run in Debian jessie/BunsenLabs stable (as long as you don't use NVIDIA tongue ).

I use it myself:

empty@BunsenLab ~ % uname -a
Linux BunsenLab 4.2-5.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Debian 4.2-10 (2015-10-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux
empty@BunsenLab ~ % cat /etc/debian_version 
8.2
empty@BunsenLab ~ % lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: BunsenLabs
Description:    BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 8.2 (Hydrogen)
Release:        8.2
Codename:       Hydrogen

wink

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#90 2015-11-09 13:38:20

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

@Head_on_a_Stick
Thanks for the info.

I have run the Liquorix kernel with Debian Jessie without issues in the past.
I did run this past the Liquorix Maestro damentz and this is his opinion;
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about2486.html

Cheers
Neil

Last edited by mrneilypops (2015-11-09 20:01:27)

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#91 2015-11-09 17:53:07

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

mrneilypops wrote:

I have run the Liquorix kernel with Debian Jessie without issues in the past.
I did run this past the Liquorix Maistro damentz and this is his opinion;
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about2486.html

Fascinating -- thanks for sharing that.

Perhaps my assertion was too glib.

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#92 2015-11-09 20:03:42

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

@Head_on_a_Stick
First off I should learn how to spell 'Maestro'!  wink

I did not release the long term implications of running the Liquorix kernel on Debian Stable...safety first I guess!

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#93 2015-11-09 20:06:30

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

Ref post #86

Here is my first issue running BunsenLabs Sid.

Restarting tint2 from the pipe menu causes tint2 to 'flicker' 2-3 times before stabilising.

If I change the entry in ~/.config/openbox/autostart;

## Start the tint2 session (the default tint2 will run if no sessions have been set)
#(sleep 2s; bl-tint2-session) &
(sleep 2s; tint2) &

...tint2 will start with the openbox session OK - no flickering.

From the terminal;

killall tint2
tint2

...tint2 will restart OK - no flickering.

If I restart from the pipe menu...flickering start...

Can anybody save me some detective work and tell me what might be the problem here?
Probably simple and I am 'missing it'...

Much obliged in advance.

Last edited by mrneilypops (2015-11-09 20:13:05)

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#94 2015-11-09 20:08:26

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

^ Do you have an Intel card?

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#95 2015-11-09 20:13:52

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 610] (rev a1)

Last edited by mrneilypops (2015-11-09 20:15:36)

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#96 2015-11-09 20:15:22

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

Does the flickering occur if you restart bl-compositor?

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#97 2015-11-09 20:22:15

mrneilypops
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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

@Head_on_a_Stick
I think you are close...
Disable compositing-restart tint2-no flickering.
Enable composting-restart tint2-flickering.

please note I am now running tint2 as per;

## Start the tint2 session (the default tint2 will run if no sessions have been set)
#(sleep 2s; bl-tint2-session) &
(sleep 2s; tint2) &

Quick fix??

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#98 2015-11-09 20:26:01

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

mrneilypops wrote:

Quick fix??

Edit /usr/bin/bl-tint2restart and comment out the "bl-compositor --restart" line.
wink

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#99 2015-11-09 20:30:25

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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

Re: Liquorix kernel.

I was wrong -- the headers for the new version (4.3-1) are built against GCC 5 and are now incompatible with Debian stable.

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 linux-headers-4.3-0.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 : Depends: gcc-5 which is a virtual package.

The Liquorix kernel cannot be used if custom kernel modules (such as NVIDIA drivers) are required.

Back to backports for me then...
hmm

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#100 2015-11-09 20:32:29

mrneilypops
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Re: Tracking Debian testing/unstable with BunsenLabs

@Head_on_a_Stick

Spot on! cool
Thanks for saving me some time.

Why is this not an issue on Jessie but is an issue on Sid with or without Liquorix kernel...I wonder...

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