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#451 2016-11-29 23:07:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Hmmm hmmmmhmmmmhmmmmhmmm. Comes into thread, sets up chair, takes out fishing pole, time to cast and see what's I catchy. tongue

Anyone heard of this thing ? Nother info link. Which explains somewhat what it is. Thing natively supports ZFS, which gnu/Nix apparently doesn't and supposedly never will directly, while available via fuse/hack.

No real experience with either ZFS, nor Btrfs. Been on the 2do for quite awhile, though often the 2do is over-ridden by the 2lazy file on my system. However ... by throwing a properly baited hook into this digital pond, figured I might catch something. Ie: Like a HOAS perchance. big_smile

Recent ZFS vs Btrfs and supposedly why ZFS is mostly better than the other ( though dated 1+ years ago, which in tech could mean it's now prehistoric) ... link.


Vll! smile

Afterthought babble, sighs. HOAS is no fish and guess there'll pretty much never be a substitute for 1st hand, do it ye damnself'ing. More sighs + consensus seems to be eventually Btrfs will be the bomb diggity anyway and is fully open sourced. Will try to schedule btrfs in for a luncheon or summin.

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#452 2016-11-30 07:22:33

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

btrfs ftw!

The zfs licence is evil neutral

EDIT: I suppose I should note that Debian has decided to allow zfs into the distribution (boo! hiss!) but the user has to build an evil custom kernel module themselves to get it to work:

http://blog.halon.org.uk/2016/01/on-zfs-in-debian/

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#453 2016-11-30 07:39:57

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

BLwillbegreat! wrote:

Interesting; I tried the proprietary version:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/serve … index.html

I had to run it in VESA mode on my Intel hardware but it will apparently run OK with NVIDIA cards, they even have a blob for them.

It's a true UNIX environment, fully certified POSIX compliant cool


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#454 2016-11-30 18:44:08

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^Thanks as ever Hoas, seems I just have to kick back and follow along in your footsteps a lot of times. Glad to have gotten feedback from someone who's actually had 1st hand experience with something. Was mostly just curious, as it seems more a novelty OS, than anything someone would use as a daily driver type.

Interesting info I hadn't known about Debian + zfs either, so thanks again. Not surprisingly looks like you've opted for the up and comer filesystem anyway. Keep reading btrfs is eventually going to surpass zfs and that's it's totally fine for personal applications currently regardless.

Going to fire up gparted on live media and setup a btrfs partition just to play around with it. Sorry for the off-topicness. Still burnt out on the distrohop myself, got to the point where it's pretty much, gnu/Linux is gnu/Linix is gnu/Linux here. Despite whoevers default configs or selection of apps/utils they opt to use in it.

Vll! smile

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#455 2016-12-05 23:58:40

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

After several years of distro-hopping, I confess to returning to Ubuntu...yes, Ubuntu. I'm not a true geek or a devoted Linux tinkerer. Of all the distros I've tried, I think that Ubuntu is the most polished and finished both in design and function. Moreover, Unity, despite its many critics, is brilliant in that you don't need a menu per se. All you need to do is type a letter or two and presto, there is your app, unless you already have a keyboard shortcut for it. Flame suit on.  devil


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#456 2016-12-06 07:24:38

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

g33zr wrote:

Unity, despite its many critics, is brilliant in that you don't need a menu per se. All you need to do is type a letter or two and presto, there is your app, unless you already have a keyboard shortcut for it.

They have dmenu in Unity now?  yikes

monkey

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#457 2016-12-06 10:05:29

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

As you know, I remain faithful to Vanilla Debian LXDE, but I'm taking a brief test-drive of Puppy Slacko 6.3.2.  So far, I don't hate it...but it ain't Debian.


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#458 2016-12-07 19:53:43

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

SparkyLinux 4.5 is released. The minimal GUI iso comes with OpenBox, and is the comfortable and lazy way to sid. smile

https://sparkylinux.org/sparkylinux-4-5-is-out/


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#459 2016-12-08 08:37:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^ That panel is fbpanel. MinimalGUI has recently been adopted:
gscreenshot_2016-11-07-150911.th.jpg


Recently I learned about MiyoLinux. It is a derivation of Devuan (and Refracta tools):
http://miyolinux.weebly.com/
MiyoLinux-201612-menu.th.jpg
Recently Devuan derived has a lightweight release. It will come out further in 2017...


Oh, my PC contains BL! Please be relieved. wink

Edit: add MiyoLinux Link and Fixed derivation

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#460 2016-12-08 09:15:55

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

▲ It is just amazing how ugly (most) distros are by default.

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#461 2016-12-11 00:09:41

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Debian stretch is running well, Xorg was updated to 1.19 so is now ahead of Arch (although they have it in [staging]) and everything seems to run very well on this old, slow AMD laptop.

To increase security, I am using unbound for DNS queries, it was very easy to get up & running:

# apt install unbound
# systemctl enable unbound --now
# echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf

I have also enabled AppArmor, a form of Mandatory Access Control, again fairly simple to set up:

https://debian-handbook.info/browse/sta … armor.html

The profiles still need to be configured, ofc glasses

Finally, I have removed sudo and restricted the use of `su` to those in the "wheel" group (just like in the *BSDs) by adding this line to /etc/pam.d/su:

auth		required	pam_wheel.so use_uid

The "wheel" group has to be created and the user added to it:

# groupadd wheel && gpasswd -a $USER wheel

Then the root account can be disabled to prevent logins:

# passwd -l root

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#462 2016-12-15 17:32:53

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#463 2016-12-15 20:32:35

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mrneilypops wrote:

MX-16

Yay! Great work stevep and friends! smile

Apparently, they have a one-click installer for Bumblebee cool


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#464 2016-12-20 00:07:26

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Opensuse Leap 42.2 smile

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#465 2016-12-25 01:24:40

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Alpine Linux dual-boot installation notes

Reference: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Insta … ualbooting

  • when installing, use `ROOTFS=btrfs setup-disks -m sys /mnt` [mutatis mutandis] to ensure that the initramfs is built with the required filesystem module

  • bootloader configuration also requires modules=btrfs [mutatis mutandis] to load the correct kernel module at boot

  • https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ad … sound_card does not work, the module index must be set as a kernel command line option, as per https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ke … mmand_line

  • for Intel cards, kernel modesetting must be enabled for the desktop to load, see https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Intel_Video

  • the various mesa programs are not installed by the setup-xorg-base script and so must be installed manually (`apk search mesa`)

  • users must be added to the audio group (`adduser $USER audio`) to be able to access the mixer controls

I've just been bitten by these (and not for the first time, sadly) so maybe they'll be useful for somebody else.

https://alpinelinux.org/


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#466 2016-12-25 12:54:43

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CrunchRunner wrote:

Opensuse Leap 42.2 smile

That's one of my latest installations (done in late November), replacing my 42.1 installation. I went with KDE but later added Fluxbox to it. I'm also enjoying Antergos (with Openbox), also installed late last month.

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#467 2017-01-01 15:00:28

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

After comparing Ubuntu Unity with Ubuntu MATE and Mint MATE, I found that Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS uses less resources than Unity (either 16.04 or 16.10) and less than Mint MATE 18 or 18.1 on my now-aging System76 Pangolin laptop. It also boots and runs faster and is very stable.

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#468 2017-01-03 14:54:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

New 9front release "GZ"

http://9front.org/releases/

2017 is the year of the 9front desktop neutral

#urielwasright

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#469 2017-01-13 14:53:17

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dwmX JAN-17 ISO available  wink

ISO

dwmX-jessie 64bit
Debian 8.6
dwm-6.1
smxi
ceni network config (sudo ceni)
9menu (Alt+F1)
dmenu-extended (Alt+P)
jgmenu (Alt+z)
spaceFM 1.0.3+next
sublime text 3
glances system monitor
ncmpcpp visualizer
rcconf (sudo rcconf) default=minimum services
boot to ram option
redshift ( ~/.xinitrc, add your geolocation to ~/.config/redshift.conf)
tmux
zsh+prezto
username = live ; password = live ; root pass = live: type 'startx'...
install with 'sudo refractainstaller-yad'
Firefox ESR
mpd lounge radio 'ready to roll'

2017-01-13-15-13-49-screenshot.th.png 2017-01-13-15-15-25-screenshot.th.png2017-01-13-15-11-19-screenshot.th.png

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#470 2017-01-19 13:59:47

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous


Keep BunsenLabs #!yish please.

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#471 2017-01-19 20:06:31

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^ o_O fascinating...

Thanks for the link!

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#472 2017-01-26 02:04:26

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I guess I am distrohopping, again. sad

After a year or more of using only Arch Linux, I installed Gentoo a few months ago to get a feel for working with and maintaining a source-based distro.

Today, I Installed Fedora 25 to take a look at Wayland. Fedora and Gnome/Wayland seem pretty cool.

I hope I can stop this madness, again.

Tim

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#473 2017-02-14 16:40:40

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Can't wait to try these...

neon KDE, cutting edge KDE over stable Ubuntu LTR...
https://neon.kde.org

Especially this one, Android OS optimized for PC...
http://www.jide.com/remixos

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#474 2017-02-14 16:44:20

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Can't wait to try these...

neon KDE, cutting edge KDE over stable Ubuntu LTR, created by Kubuntu and KDE devs...
https://neon.kde.org

Especially this one, Android OS optimized for PC...
http://www.jide.com/remixos

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#475 2017-02-17 13:03:33

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous


Keep BunsenLabs #!yish please.

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