non-pae version

0-day · 2015-10-05 12:05:05

a non-pae version?
tweakos dove light is very good..

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hhh · 2015-10-05 15:03:20

nobodyWe're going to release a CD-sized ISO, the 32 bit version will use the 586 kernel and bl-welcome will offer to install 686-pae if your system can use it.

Our "alpha1" 32 bit ISO included the non-pae 586 kernel, but I don't know if @nobody archived it/still has it available.

dolly · 2015-10-06 13:50:05

hhh wrote:

We're going to release a CD-sized ISO, the 32 bit version will use the 586 kernel and bl-welcome will offer to install 686-pae if your system can use it.

Thanks, very nice of you!

0-day · 2015-10-08 14:07:39

when will it be available?

damo · 2015-10-08 14:10:32

0-day wrote:

when will it be available?

Stock answer: "When it's ready!"

....but probably "soon".

dolly · 2015-10-08 18:16:36

Soon sounds much nicer than "when ready".

0-day · 2015-10-09 13:21:30

...with vivaldi browser or opera beta??

damo · 2015-10-09 13:31:02

0-day wrote:

...with vivaldi browser or opera beta??

No chance! BL ships with Iceweasel as default.

Look in `Menu -> Network -> WWW Browsers` for Install options which have already been configured. You can add your own if you like (edit ~/.config/openbox/pipemenus.rc).

0-day · 2015-10-12 09:04:31

for my hp nx 6110 blrc1 work out of the box. i need non-pae version?
cpu is celeron m 1.4 ghz
2 mb ram

Bearded_Blunder · 2015-10-12 12:56:45

Anything pentium3 & up is guaranteed to work PAE came in with PII, which isn't to say it'll run as well as with a non pae kernel, there's some processor overhead, and in handling the highmem stuff that the non pae kernel avoids for those of us with 1gig of RAM and less.. but you should be fine 0-day

When debian say "older machines" they mean "ancient".

0-day · 2016-02-18 14:29:17

a light version with lite app in future?

ohnonot · 2016-02-18 19:49:54

what a nice introduction.
nothing but demands, and "distro Y is very good. can you top that?".

0-day · 2016-02-18 20:12:05

sorry...bunsen is very good distro, live iso, #!++ only for install, no live version.
For old machine i prefer tweakos dove light. thanks

hhh · 2016-02-19 02:36:05

ohnonot wrote:

what a nice introduction.

It's OK, really.

@0-day, the "Release" ISO will include 586 (non-PAE)...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 111#p19111

re: lite version w/ lite app, the CD-sized ISO will be "lite".

No, there's no date on when either of these will come out, sorry.

SpaceX is a forum member, and BunsenLabs is OpenSource and not distro-competitive...
http://tweaklinux.org/news.html

spacex · 2016-02-28 00:24:43

I just want to add that there is less difference between PAE and Non-PAE than it used to be. Because the 486 kernel is now just a dummy transitional package, and the 586 kernels uses just slightly less resources than a normal 686-PAE kernel..

When I test 586 vs 686-PAE on my ancient Toshiba, at least 16 years old, there is very little difference in performance. The stats shows slightly less RAM use, but it's neglible...

Anyway, that old Toshiba is still faster and more responsive with linux than most new pc's are with Windows If something is a limitation, then it's the graphics. Nothing else.

spacex · 2016-02-28 00:37:04

hhh wrote:

ohnonot wrote:
what a nice introduction.
It's OK, really.
@0-day, the "Release" ISO will include 586 (non-PAE)...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 111#p19111
re: lite version w/ lite app, the CD-sized ISO will be "lite".
No, there's no date on when either of these will come out, sorry.
SpaceX is a forum member, and BunsenLabs is OpenSource and not distro-competitive...
http://tweaklinux.org/news.html

Ooops, Dove is taken down, and the news page aren't there at this point. I'm setting up a new webpage, so it's only the homepage itself, and the download section that are live and kicking

So visit the home-page directly: http://tweaklinux.org

Dove may come up again at a later stage. But it is replaced by Colors-light-non-PAE that fits on a cd. I found it a bit stupid to have two different releases. It's twice the work

But I'll have a look at Dove and see if I'll fix the issues it had, and upload a new version. Because it was a lighter build in general, not only the non-pae bit. But had lighter apps. So I have to think about if I want a special version for ancient pc's...

0-day · 2016-02-28 13:29:18

@spacex Dove was better, dark as crunchbang . It was only the b43 - fwcutter driver and it was perfect . replace iceweasel with pale moon...dark background and minimal.
thanks!

ghorvath · 2016-03-16 11:13:20

Are there any news on when we could expect the non-pae release?

Thank you very much for the effort.

hhh · 2016-03-18 06:44:25

ghorvath wrote:

Are there any news on when we could expect the non-pae release?

Is there any news? I would say two weeks. This is a reasonable request but it's a bit of a pain in the ass. I have to go through the package list for alpha1 and Meld it with the list for RC2, and then I have to build it and upload the resulting ISO somewhere so @nobody can build a torrent and upload it to our server.

The result will be an updated alpha1, which had a lot of broken Openbox menu entries due to missing applications and application substitutions. To fix that, we would need to offer another verion of our Openbox menu and pipemenus, but for now that would have to be up to the user to fix/customize/configure. Still, I think in 2 weeks we could offer an "RC1" version of a CD-sized Live ISO. No promises, but keep bugging me if you don't see an ISO by April. Until then, kitty in towels with cucumber slices, baby.

ghorvath · 2016-03-18 10:41:14

Thank you very much for the estimate on the time-frame. Your work is very much appreciated.

I do not understand, though, why having a non-pae kernel makes a lot of trouble. Would it not be possible to just add RC2 to an 8.3 Jessie i386 live CD? Or maybe is it that you want to keep the size below 650 MB AND have a non-pae kernel at the same time? (I personally do not mind if it is more than 1 CD sized, because I am going to put it onto a USB-stick, anyway, but will use it for machines having <4GB memory).

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