#21 2016-03-09 10:44:18

Systemcrasher

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Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

I went through thee dmesg file you posted.
Nothing out of the ordinary in there, at least when you initiated that 'suspend' action about 2 minutes after the system was brought up.
You disk speed is about 21 MB/s which is acceptable for your hardware I think.

I found a thread on  the Debian forum that might interest you - similar hardware.

From what I have seen, I dont think 'nomodeset' is necessary for you.

Thjank you for your link.

After reading this i started glxgears, it runs perfectly. CPU-usage growing up from about 13% (only surf) up to about 40% with glxgears, too.

I installed hwinfo and get this information :

g

22: PCI(AGP) 100.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA)
  [Created at pci.328]
  Unique ID: VCu0.bsbgPga0um0
  Parent ID: vSkL.HMrCSWFGDg0
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:01:00.0
  Hardware Class: graphics card
  Model: "ATI Radeon LW"
  Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
  Device: pci 0x4c57 "Radeon LW"
  SubVendor: pci 0x156d "Alpha-Top Corp"
  SubDevice: pci 0xb730 
  Driver: "radeon"
  Driver Modules: "drm"
  Memory Range: 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff (ro,non-prefetchable)
  I/O Ports: 0x2000-0x2fff (rw)
  Memory Range: 0xe0000000-0xe000ffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
  Memory Range: 0xe0020000-0xe003ffff (ro,non-prefetchable,disabled)
  IRQ: 10 (141511 events)
  I/O Ports: 0x3c0-0x3df (rw)
  Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d00004C57sv0000156Dsd0000B730bc03sc00i00"
  Driver Info #0:
    XFree86 v4 Server Module: radeon
    XF86Config Entry: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
  Driver Info #1:
    XFree86 v4 Server Module: radeon
    3D Support: yes
    Color Depths: 16
    Extensions: dri
    Options: 
    XF86Config Entry: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #14 (PCI bridge)


22: PCI(AGP) 100.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA)
  [Created at pci.328]
  Unique ID: VCu0.bsbgPga0um0
  Parent ID: vSkL.HMrCSWFGDg0
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:01:00.0
  Hardware Class: graphics card
  Model: "ATI Radeon LW"
  Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
  Device: pci 0x4c57 "Radeon LW"
  SubVendor: pci 0x156d "Alpha-Top Corp"
  SubDevice: pci 0xb730 
  Driver: "radeon"
  Driver Modules: "drm"
  Memory Range: 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff (ro,non-prefetchable)
  I/O Ports: 0x2000-0x2fff (rw)
  Memory Range: 0xe0000000-0xe000ffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
  Memory Range: 0xe0020000-0xe003ffff (ro,non-prefetchable,disabled)
  IRQ: 10 (141511 events)
  I/O Ports: 0x3c0-0x3df (rw)
  Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d00004C57sv0000156Dsd0000B730bc03sc00i00"
  Driver Info #0:
    XFree86 v4 Server Module: radeon
    XF86Config Entry: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
  Driver Info #1:
    XFree86 v4 Server Module: radeon
    3D Support: yes
    Color Depths: 16
    Extensions: dri
    Options: 
    XF86Config Entry: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #14 (PCI bridge)

Than i tried to install the free-ATI drivers, shown in your link, but tehy are installed during the bundenlab-installation.

so i'm not shure, if the problem is the graphics-driver or s.th else.....

Any idea?

xaos52

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Registered: 2015-09-30

Posts: 695

Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

Are you comfortable at the command line?
If I were in your situation, I would boot into a virtual console and start emacs there. See if you get far better response times than in the graphical environment. If you do then you have a graphical problem.

You can do  the same with vi, or a command-line browser (links, elinks, w3m...)

ohnonot

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Posts: 5,592

Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

i'm just reading here(*) that "The proprietary Linux drivers don't support the R100 chips (Radeon 7000-7500)".
i red that again in another thread, so it's safe to assume:
do not use the fglrx driver on this machine!

this thread on debian forums might also be interesting.

are we sure op's problem is graphics related?
i'm not so convinced myself.

(*) btw, that thread is 10 years old. it seems your laptop isn't quite that old; so it must have been pretty low-end already when it was sold. i'm not criticizing, i'm just saying keep in mind what sort of hardware we're dealing with.

Systemcrasher

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Posts: 16

Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

@Xaos52:

Commandline works normally fast, tty(4) also as "lxterminal".

Abiword is fast, too.

do not use the fglrx driver on this machine!

I think, i don't use it. But I'm not shure.

How can i see it?

hwinfo has been sayed using "radeon", Xfree86.

Last edited by Systemcrasher (2016-03-10 10:26:43)

xaos52

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Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

also as "lxterminal".

Could you  expand on that.
Do you mean you get reasonable response times in the graphical 'lxterminal'?
In which applications do you get exceedingly long reponse times?

Systemcrasher

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Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

Do you mean you get reasonable response times in the graphical 'lxterminal'?
In which applications do you get exceedingly long reponse times?

Yes, the terminal was running in the graphical desktop.

I testet terminal, Abiword, nano (in the terminal), all works fast enough (not slowlier than my "keyhacking" fingers)

Problems are only in browsers (surf, iceweasel). Surf is much more faster, but it's a horror, writing in forum, because ist's very slowly (now sitting on an other PC, using Deb. 7.8).

Maybe it's not (only) a problem with the graphic driver?
Besause if the driver is the problem, it should be slowly with all Programms running in graphical desktop.

And it's not a problem of Connection (LAN-connected, about 50.000-100.000 MBit; T-Online - Magenta)

xaos52

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Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

Besause if the driver is the problem, it should be slowly with all Programms running in graphical desktop.

If it were a graphics driver problem, all your applications would be equally slow.
I am an iceweasel/firefox user myself, with practically no experience with other browsers.
Perhaps others can chime in with suggestions of other browsers to use? Chromium? ...
Perhaps a setting in Iceweasel that is OK for modern graphical drivers, but slows down yours?

ohnonot

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Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

iceweasel surely is a hog.
surf is ultraminimalistic, but still based on webkit, so actually not so lightweight.
and here's the biggest problem: the internet is not lightweight at all.

both browsers might have problems getting any sort of acceleration going with that card/driver.

in iceweael, make sure cookies are destroyed when you close it. try checking/unchecking the "use hardware acceleration" option.

also, in one of the threads i linked earlier, there were recommendations to install other stuff besides the pure radeon drive, like mesa and opengl and such. you should check that.

Head_on_a_Stick

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Re: Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

try checking/unchecking the "use hardware acceleration" option

Iceweasel/Firefox cannot use hardware acceleration when playing videos.

The checkbox lies!

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563206, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210729 & https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210727

Also, Iceweasel and Chromium are the only secure browsers available in Debian jessie/BunsenLabs.

browsers built upon the webkit, qtwebkit and khtml engines are included in Jessie, but not covered by security support. These browsers should not be used against untrusted websites

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … r-security

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