Gericom Laptop - testet - shutdown itself :(

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-01 14:26:00

Hi,

my acutally testing machine is a gericom, 512 MB RAM, about 2GHz CPU, Type of Gericom unknown.

Look here: http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=159767

sorry, it's like crossposting, but i have seen, the acutally Iso is a Debian 8.3, same installed at the time on the laptop (with Xfce).

With Deb. 8.3 and the actually bunsen the screen gets dark after coming up the desktop.

With deb 8.3 the screen is dark, no chance to go into a console or s.th else, only the hard way, pushing the "on"-Button for several seconds.

A litle better is the way of bunsen: a "normal" shutdown against my will (live session this moment).

First the desktop is to see, you can open menues etc., but after a short time the laptop is shutdown.

Starting with the second menue-point the screen gets dark and than becoming white-grew and than getting black parts and than shutdown.

You can see it here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mpm8f1w41jom … SibGa?dl=0

with Slacko 5.3 it works fine. With Slaco 5.9 and 6.3 screen, keyboard and touchpad are frozen.

Xubuntu 15.10 testet, too. doesn't works too, frozen desktop after a while or - when working, extremely slowly.

Any idea, what happens and how could to be solved?

ohnonot · 2016-03-02 07:26:18

please post the output of

lspci -k

while running bunsenlabs.

generally speaking, 512MB is very, very little for a current distro & internet usage, and with a 2GHz single core, you have to expect performance issues.

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-02 10:28:08

Hi, thank you for the fast answer.

But the problem is:

The laptop isn't up lonhg enough to type the order and safe the report.

I try to do it under slaco.

xaos52 · 2016-03-02 10:44:34

You could try booting into a virtual console in stead of a graphical desktop.
But you would need another machine with connectivity to copy the command results to and post them here.
Do you have such a machine? Do you know how to transfer files from the command line to your other system using ssh or copying to an USB stick? (Does the machine even have USB ports?)

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-02 10:49:19

@xaos52: Sorry, but it doesn't start long enough with console, too.

But i have done it under Slacko, during you wrote your message.

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Alpha-Top Corp Device b730
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 05)
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
	Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05)
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 244b
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 05)
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 244b
	Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05)
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 244b
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 05)
	Subsystem: Alpha-Top Corp Device b730
	Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
	Subsystem: Alpha-Top Corp Device b730
	Kernel driver in use: radeon
02:02.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02)
	Subsystem: PCTel Inc Device 0001
	Kernel driver in use: serial
02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Alpha-Top Corp Device b730
	Kernel driver in use: 8139too
02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev b8)
	Subsystem: Alpha-Top Corp Device b730
	Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
02:04.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C551 IEEE 1394 Controller
	Subsystem: Alpha-Top Corp Device b730
	Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci

Note: The bunsenlab-DVD war startet from an usb-connected device, not connected now.

xaos52 · 2016-03-02 11:29:30

I see but one possible solution:
Use the Debian way back machine to find a kernel and a graphics driver that can handle your hardware.

ohnonot · 2016-03-02 19:01:03

the lspci output looks quite ok to me; could it be a graphical issue even if it's booting to console?

also, what did you research about the problem reveal?

have you tried installing crunchbang?

Last edited by ohnonot (2021-07-04 06:38:22)

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-03 11:11:03

@xaos52: If I'd understand you right, i should take some older drivers / modlues and included into my kernel?

Oh, I think, it's a little bit to hard für me. I'm not a bloodsy beginner, but i'm not a crack.

@ohnonot: Thank you for that link. I'd installed crunchbang at an other Laptop, working well, but updated to Deb 7.8 at that machine (Amilo).
I tried to test it with crunchbang and try to upgrade.

xaos52 · 2016-03-03 11:46:43

Hmm, maybe try booting with the 'nomodeset' kernel parameter?

ohnonot · 2016-03-03 16:30:06

xaos52 wrote:

Hmm, maybe try booting with the 'nomodeset' kernel parameter?

+1

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-05 10:13:30

Sorry, nomodset +1 doen*t work, but it relly helps a little bit. Now it don't shutdown, it goes sleeping. Pushing the on-button, i get back to the desktop. So i can update the system and work.

Thank you

I tried crunchbang from the link, given mr from @ohnonot.

The problem was, can't installing apt and can't installing Grub2.

I think, it's because the repos are no longer supported.

xaos52 · 2016-03-05 10:31:46

Sorry, nomodset +1 doen*t work, but it relly helps a little bit. Now it don't shutdown, it goes sleeping. Pushing the on-button, i get back to the desktop. So i can update the system and work.

Bunsenlabs or #! ?
System shutting itself down could be a temperature problem.

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-05 13:48:29

xaos52 wrote:

Sorry, nomodset +1 doen*t work, but it relly helps a little bit. Now it don't shutdown, it goes sleeping. Pushing the on-button, i get back to the desktop. So i can update the system and work.
Bunsenlabs or #! ?
System shutting itself down could be a temperature problem.

Bunsenlab is now working (this is the first mail written with bunsenoab on that Gericom ).

Definitively not a temperature-problem.

One of my first "operformance-tests" is playing wesnoth.

No shutdown during the game (but it was really slowly, i don't think that with 2 GHz).

After update & upgrade it works with the little in the last mail written problem.

After login shutdwon to the "sleepmodus".

After pushing on-button the login-screen appears with no booting (at once) and than i can work.

Ok, with this little problem i can live.

An other thing is, that the laptop works very slowly.

With iceweasel, too (midori isn't in the repos).

It's not a problem of the internet-connection (LAN, about 100MBit)

xaos52 · 2016-03-05 15:49:15

Can you post output of

dmesg

to a pastebin site and publish the link to it here?

ohnonot · 2016-03-06 04:43:05

Systemcrasher wrote:

Sorry, nomodset +1 doen*t work, but it relly helps a little bit.

+1 is lazy netspeak, means "I totally agree". You're not supposed to actually use that on your system.
how exactly did you apply nomodeset to the kernel boot parameters?
if it worked once, you have to make it permanent.

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Systemcrasher wrote:

No shutdown during the game (but it was really slowly, i don't think that with 2 GHz).
An other thing is, that the laptop works very slowly.
With iceweasel, too (midori isn't in the repos).

ohnonot wrote:

generally speaking, 512MB is very, very little for a current distro & internet usage, and with a 2GHz single core, you have to expect performance issues.

with that said, i still think your system is not optimally configured.

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-08 11:49:02

xaos52 wrote:

Can you post output of
dmesg
to a pastebin site and publish the link to it here?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aspu3tkobu394d9/dmesg?dl=0

Systemcrasher · 2016-03-08 12:06:10

ohnonot wrote:

how exactly did you apply nomodeset to the kernel boot parameters?

I'd unsed nomodset only for on tiome. Editing into the boot-screen don't fix changes into the grub.cfg.

After the update it works without that.

grub.cfg: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtzsm0nfo99dd3u/grub.cfg?dl=0

but very slowly.

For waiting one sentence here is shown at the screen, i must wait about 1 minute; longer by correcting parts of a word.

with that said, i still think your system is not optimally configured.

It must be so. The time needet to gets signs from the keyboard-puffer to the sreeen needs about 2-3 seconds, sometimes longer.

That's not normal.

xaos52 · 2016-03-08 13:40:28

I went through thee dmesg file you posted.
Nothing out of the ordinary in there, at least when you initiated that 'suspend' action about 2 minutes after the system was brought up.
You disk speed is about 21 MB/s which is acceptable for your hardware I think.

I found a thread on the Debian forum that might interest you - similar hardware.

From what I have seen, I dont think 'nomodeset' is necessary for you.

ohnonot · 2016-03-08 16:14:53

as of recently, i cannot download dropbox stuff anymore.
i guess it's something to do with noscript.

xaos52 · 2016-03-08 16:23:42

^ I am using iceweasel without noscript and could download the dmesg info.

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