[RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.3 (Hydrogen) RC2 Live ISOs

johnraff · 2016-02-17 01:13:57

hhh wrote:

In the script...

sudo apt-get purge fdpowermon fdpowermon-icons

That sounds like the way to go.

I'm about to add pepperflash to bl-welcome anyway, so I'll throw that in the upgrade too.

MAC the Bloody · 2016-02-17 07:49:13

Oh, so this is what happens when I am away for more than a day.

I guess now would be a good time for me to ditch my Linux Mint and run BL Hydrogen again. That and get my but in gear to give dot/not some of the help I promised with that security thread.

Anywho, kudos to you guys for putting this out. I am looking forward to jumping back into it.

johnraff · 2016-02-17 08:02:01

hhh wrote:

...a kernel-detection section to bl-welcome that checks for a 586 kernel and offers to install 686 (PAE)...
(I'm thinking include both kernels and add the extra live GRUB menu entry so you can test either.)

This sounds good for the full-sized iso, since we're into usb-stick or DVD territory anyway.
Non-PAE for the CD-size iso + bl-welcome's PAE option.

unklar · 2016-02-17 08:54:51

hhh wrote:

@unklar, if you can switch to a console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and have an Internet connection, then run...
sudo apt install linux-image-586
... and reboot, then the kernel will be available in GRUB Advanced Options. Remove 686 to make 586 the default.

How is that what you are proposing here?

I want to try the stick the ISO on the X40 Live. The recognize (as @nobody
correctly writes) the Pentium-M equal and refuses because of the PAE kernel.

It's not the point of it, unpack the ISO, the non-PAE kernel
introduce the ISO to pack again, so that might work on the ThinPad. ]:D

iMBeCil · 2016-02-17 10:33:41

As for the terminal size ... I was just noticing this, and referring to the tradition (and possibly to people with small monitors, or screwed up resolution just after install which might be important for them as they have to fiddle with configuration and whatnot in terminal to install drivers) ... Personally, the size of the terminal (its enlargement) is the second thing I change after installation

damo wrote:

iMBeCil wrote:
Fully installed version (graphical install):
- problems with Flash installation in bl-welcome, error, something like:
flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
Note: I accepted all 'Y' answers, in particular to enable multimedia (except for the jessie backport, didn't allowed it). I run bl-welcome once more (and after restart), still no luck with flashplugin-nonfree.
That is down to an upstream bug in the live-installer. When installed as a Virtualbox VM (and others?) `contrib non-free` sources aren't enabled. Add them to your `main` in sources.list, then run `bl-welcome` again (or update then install flashplugin-nonfree)

Here is my sources after bl-welcome and before I edit it manually; they already seem to have 'contrib non-free' but flashplugin-nonfree cannot be installed:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main
#deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free

However(!): by adding 'contrib non-free' to the first item did the trick. Apparently, I don't fully understand 'sources.list' file ... :8

Thanks damo for explanation.

redcollective · 2016-02-17 13:21:50

nobody wrote:

becker_11 wrote:
Downloading now, will keep seeding
Many thanks to all seeders. Over 90% of the downloads are over bittorrent, which keeps our server nicely cool.

Seeding i386 and amd64 now, 3.85 gb up already.

Can someone 'explain like I'm five', why the i386 build is bigger than an amd64 build?

red

hhh · 2016-02-17 14:25:59

^It has to be due to kernel and library differences as the package list used when I run live-build is the same for both ISOs.

@unklar, the final release will include the 586 kernel, thanks for the feedback!

unklar · 2016-02-17 22:11:54

@hhh,
my pleasure.

0-day · 2016-02-18 12:11:28

why rc2? is it unstable?

pvsage · 2016-02-18 12:28:58

^ No. The higher the rc number, the less unstable. In other words, lim (x->∞), rc=stable.

0-day · 2016-02-18 12:31:19

why rc, is it no final release?

pvsage · 2016-02-18 12:45:26

^ Mostly because we still want bug reports. If it is not rock-solid usable on all target platforms, we want to know; the goal of "stable" is "nothing to report here, move along".

apacus11 · 2016-02-18 15:52:12

Great work! dl&seeding

Just installed and config a bit, but only bugs found are the ones mentioned before (flashplugin and fdpowermon-icons). Need to give it a test tomorrow morning, but everything seems to work like a charm!

I'll try hhh's RAM tips to speed up my old netbook (working on an SD card bunsen installation, the internal HD is f#%&king sizzling).

hhh · 2016-02-18 22:25:32

I've split discussion of CB++ to it's own thread, thanks...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1342

-edit-

rc2

I don't care for Openbox because it's not all that attractive and it's time consuming to set up. RC2 is good to go OOTB and the BL scripts and tweaks are amazing, I would gladly use this as my main desktop/OS.

xaos52 · 2016-02-19 11:01:36

Installing RC2 anomalies regarding contrib and non-free components.

Our intention was to have these components enabled by default.

We have seen several cases where the 'contrib' and 'non-free' components were not enabled
after installing RC2.

From what we have seen so far we have concluded that:

1. this is true for all installs to VirtualBox virtual machine installs

2. not true for all bare metal installs to desktop systems

3. mixed results for bare metal installs to laptops.

You can check your results by issuing

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

The first non-commented line starting with deb:http ... will be

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main non-free contrib

when the components are enabled,

and

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main

when components are not enabled.

To help us confirm that our conclusions are correct, please let us know if your
results for desktops differ from 1 or 3 above.

For laptops let us know if bare metal installs do not enable the components.

This is only a minor glitch and can easily be corrected after the install, but we would like to
get to the bottom of this. Is it a Bunsenlabs thing - unlikely since we saw anomalies with
standard Debian installs as well - or a Debian thing, a debian-installer thing or a virtualbox thing?

Thank you for your cooperation.

torq · 2016-02-19 16:24:18

@xaos52

Regarding flashplugin-nonfree not beeing installed.

Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list as installed from a USB-Stick to a Desktop-PC:
-------------
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8 _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160210-22:53]/ jessie contrib main non-free
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8 _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160210-22:53]/ jessie contrib main non-free

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main
#deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
------------

Last edited by damo (2016-02-19 17:25:53)

damo · 2016-02-19 17:32:59

@torq

You don't have `contrib non-free` sources. The `debian jessie` lines should read

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

Add them manually, then update, or....

@johnraff has just modified the `bl-welcome` script to deal with situations like this. It also has a new screen for flashplugin choices. Try running `bl-welcome` again.

PS Please use [ code ] tags for terminal output

johnraff · 2016-02-20 07:09:53

@damo, I think perhaps @torq was also responding to @xaos52's request for feedback on installation results.

@torq were you installing to a Virtual Machine or direct to the hardware?

bl-welcome now fixes that issue post-install, but it would be good to get that bug squashed at its source.

apacus11 · 2016-02-21 12:39:56

I upgraded and bl-welcome finally added the sources correctly. On a bare metal laptop install.

Nice work by the way, no problems found yet!

iMBeCil · 2016-02-21 16:47:17

^^johnraff ... is there a new iso, or bl-welcome is simply updated (by apt-get update and dist-upgrade)?

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