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#1 2016-02-12 04:55:34

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Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

This post is intended to inform people of a the problem I am experiencing in order for whoever it may be to help with improvements on the software. Ok firstly I have noticed that when I put Bunsen on a USB Flash Drive whether with Rufus or YUMI that BusenLinux does seem to have a problem mounting all mediums including the installation medium right before the menu around when it asks to mount a CD-ROM. Ok that being said I still did get this software to install properly I think from a USB CD-ROM Drive, and went through the menu, and everything, however I am still experiencing wifi connection problems on my Acer Aspire One D270 which uses an external wifi adapter instead of an internal one (Buffalo Airstation N150).

----> http://www.buffalotech.com/products/wir … sb-adapter

Ok here is the issue... It will detect my routers SSID, but when I go to put in the password it will show the connection status spinning without logging on to the router, and then will just say disconnected. Now I am using an Ultra Long Password which is WPA2 AES so unless there is an issue with Bunsen as far as password length what else may be the issue? Driver Incompatibility issues? Didn't setup the Network Connection during the installation, and so forth?

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#2 2016-02-12 05:24:49

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

PowerOfTheSword wrote:

..... Ok firstly I have noticed that when put Bunsen on a USB Flash Drive whether with Rufus or YUMI that BusenLinux does seem to have a problem mounting all mediums including the installation medium right before the menu around when it asks to mount a CD-ROM....

YUMI website wrote:

Installing Linux from the YUMI created USB Drive to a Hard Drive is not officially supported. If the installer portion of any Live Linux distro does work, consider it a bonus.

The recommended method to write to usb for BunsenLabs is the Debian one, as the Installation page describes.  How do I write a CD/DVD/BD image to a USB flash drive?. Then do a checksum check.

Whether this has a bearing on your connectivity problems I don't know....


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#3 2016-02-12 05:45:15

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

damo wrote:

The recommended method to write to usb for BunsenLabs is the Debian one, as the Installation page describes.  How do I write a CD/DVD/BD image to a USB flash drive?. Then do a checksum check.

Aha! Yeah I though that might be the case about the USB part of my Post so then what you are referring to is that I need to use the DD Writing Method for Copying the ISO to USB I would assume? If that's the case then Rufus Actually has this method for burning an ISO to a Flash Drive. Next time I get the chance I will try to write the USB with Rufus with DD.

~Thank You

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#4 2016-02-12 06:15:52

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

damo wrote:

Whether this has a bearing on your connectivity problems I don't know....

Personally I highly doubt that is the issue with Wifi because I have actually installed BusenLinux from a DVD Disc instead through a USB-DVDROM unless the problem has something to do with the USB Bus when it was installed or tied to in general. I think it may be a driver issue because I've noticed that the kernel looks like it has a problem reading mediums even when the ISO has been burned correctly, Or perhaps something to do with the software for the Data Controller?

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#5 2016-02-12 07:29:01

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

PowerOfTheSword wrote:

I am still experiencing wifi connection problems on my Acer Aspire One D270 which uses an external wifi adapter instead of an internal one (Buffalo Airstation N150).

Please plug the device in and post the output of:

lsusb

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#6 2016-02-13 08:01:40

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Please plug the device in and post the output of:

lsusb

Here is the Device Listing:

Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0411:01a2 BUFFALO INC. (formerly MelCo., Inc.) WLI-UC-GNM Wireless LAN Adapter [Ralink RT8070]
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

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#7 2016-02-13 09:58:16

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

Do you have firmware-ralink installed, from non-free sources?


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#8 2016-02-13 10:01:25

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#9 2016-02-15 07:07:18

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

damo wrote:

Do you have firmware-ralink installed, from non-free sources?

If by firmware-ralink you referring to a third party driver install then no I did not realize that this driver had to be manually installed

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

This is what I have tried thus far:

sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Next I added this to sources.list

#Debian 8 "Jessie"
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

Then...

sudo apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-ralink

I get multiple host connection errors when I do this

I have also tried to install the firmware with the debian package installer, and I still cannot get my Wifi Dongle to work properly I think I am going to in the mean-time try some other things unless someone else knows how to fix this problem.

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#10 2016-02-15 07:23:32

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

You will need a network connection if you are trying to apt-get update and install packages. Can you use an ethernet connection?

There is a method posted for installing broadcom firmware without a network connection - you may be able to adapt it for your ralink:
HowTo: Do a netinstall with a Broadcom b43xx wireless card

The easiest solution might be to get a compatible wifi dongle. In the past I have found Asus models work OOTB with Debian.


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#11 2016-02-15 07:28:13

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

Ninja'd by damo.

You will be upgrading to the 'testing' branch of Debian if you do that.
I suggest you replace the deb line with

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

The problem is that you need connectivity to install the wifi firmware.
You are in  a catch-22 situation right now.

Do you have another system available that does have connectivity?
If you have I could give you an url to dowload tthe firmware package.
You would then have to transfer that file to the bl system and manually install it there.

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#12 2016-02-15 20:51:41

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

damo wrote:

You will need a network connection if you are trying to apt-get update and install packages. Can you use an ethernet connection?

Yeah I forgot to mention that I used my LAN Jack to test those terminal commands which connects just fine.

damo wrote:

There is a method posted for installing broadcom firmware without a network connection - you may be able to adapt it for your ralink:
HowTo: Do a netinstall with a Broadcom b43xx wireless card

Well then I suppose I could give it a whirl at least if I run out of other configuration options.

damo wrote:

The easiest solution might be to get a compatible wifi dongle. In the past I have found Asus models work OOTB with Debian.

Maybe as a Last Resort. i Have an Old Netgear RangeMAX Adapter that I have not tested with bunsen, but I did not want to get comfortable with that one because of how bulky it is. ><

xaos52 wrote:

You will be upgrading to the 'testing' branch of Debian if you do that.
I suggest you replace the deb line with

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

I think I tried this one already to tell you the truth, but I can make another attempt just to make sure.

xaos52 wrote:

The problem is that you need connectivity to install the wifi firmware.
You are in  a catch-22 situation right now.

Yeah again I forgot to mention that I was using my LAN Jack which connects just fine to test those terminal commands.

xaos52 wrote:

Do you have another system available that does have connectivity?
If you have I could give you an url to dowload tthe firmware package.
You would then have to transfer that file to the bl system and manually install it there.


I actually tried to download "firmware-ralink" from here:

http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/no … 43_all.deb


I then installed firmware-ralink_0.43_all.deb with the debian package installer, and unless I had used the wrong one I'm really not sure why this will not work.


after that I used:

sudo apt-get update

Then...

sudo apt-get upgrade

Then Rebooted, and tested the adapter again, but still would not connect to my router.

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#13 2016-02-15 21:09:30

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

PowerOfTheSword wrote:
sudo apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-ralink

I've only just noticed that the apt-get command won't work because you aren't using `sudo`. That's why the firmware never installed previously. It should be

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-ralink

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#14 2016-02-15 21:48:36

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

damo wrote:

I've only just noticed that the apt-get command won't work because you aren't using `sudo`. That's why the firmware never installed previously. It should be

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-ralink

I just tried your terminal command, with the sources.list as such:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8 _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot i386 LIVE/INSTALL $

# added by bl-welcome
# Multimedia repository
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free

# Debian 8 "Jessie"
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jesse main contrib non-free

I then got This:

Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse InRelease
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse Release.gpg                                 
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse Release                                     
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie InRelease                   
Hit http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen InRelease              
Hit http://deb.opera.com stable InRelease                            
Hit http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages               
Hit http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free i386 Packages               
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie/main i386 Packages                    
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie/non-free i386 Packages                
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/main i386 Packages                          
  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/contrib i386 Packages                       
  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]
Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Translation-en_US            
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US  
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/non-free i386 Packages             
  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/contrib Translation-en_US          
Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Translation-en               
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/contrib Translation-en             
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en     
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/main Translation-en_US             
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org jesse/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie/main Translation-en
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie/non-free Translation-en
W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jesse/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jesse/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jesse/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]

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#15 2016-02-15 22:45:40

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

Read your sources.list more carefully...it should be "jessie" not "jesse"


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#16 2016-02-15 23:05:02

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

Everyone, stop. firmware-ralink is included in the rc1 ISOs and non-free sources should be enabled by default. The original post is vague about how he's burning the ISO and where during the installation it fails. He should make sure he has a good USB before we start troubleshooting other stuff.

First issue, writing the ISO to USB. Get a new copy of the ISO via our torrent, this guarantees a valid image if the download succeeds, even if the download gets interrupted...
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/installation … key-method

Your using Windows to write the image? Then follow the video instructions at Win32 Disk Imager (note the file-type filter in the video is set to  *.*)...
https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/

Your using Linux to write the image? Use the cp command. If your disk is /dev/sdb1 the command is...

sudo cp BL-Hydrogen-rc1-amd64.iso /dev/sdb;sync

Note that it's sdb without the trailing number and change the ISO file name as needed.

Reinstall, and see if your network connection gets detected properly during the install and choose to use a network mirror to insure that your sources.list files are set up correctly.

Let's get this solved first.


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#17 2016-02-16 03:34:11

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

hhh wrote:

Everyone, stop. firmware-ralink is included in the rc1 ISOs and non-free sources should be enabled by default. The original post is vague about how he's burning the ISO and where during the installation it fails. He should make sure he has a good USB before we start troubleshooting other stuff.

Yeah I sort of figured that it might have been included because it can still detect an SSID, and the the broadcast is set on UP within the ifconfig command. Now about the installation I did actually install this instance of Bunsen with a USB DVD-ROM drive from a DVD Disc, but it did fail with USB Flash I believe because I did not use the DD Write Method or whatever other method will work with this Distro.

hhh wrote:

First issue, writing the ISO to USB. Get a new copy of the ISO via our torrent, this guarantees a valid image if the download succeeds, even if the download gets interrupted...
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/installation … key-method

Ok I do not believe it to be an ISO problem, but I will re-download the ISO just for safe measure, and try the checksum (never really used a checksum, but I'll give it a try).

hhh wrote:

Your using Windows to write the image? Then follow the video instructions at Win32 Disk Imager (note the file-type filter in the video is set to  *.*)...
https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/

Your using Linux to write the image? Use the cp command. If your disk is /dev/sdb1 the command is...

sudo cp BL-Hydrogen-rc1-amd64.iso /dev/sdb;sync

Note that it's sdb without the trailing number and change the ISO file name as needed.

Reinstall, and see if your network connection gets detected properly during the install and choose to use a network mirror to insure that your sources.list files are set up correctly.

Let's get this solved first.

Ok Thank You I will try the cp Command in Linux first ------> Then re-install it using a Network Mirror. I'll inform via post the results of my re-attempt when I have the chance.

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#18 2016-02-16 03:40:47

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

@Power, use the BRAND SPANKING NEW rc2 ISO (the network mirror is configured automatically and it includes the most recent packages)...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1321


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#19 2016-02-16 03:46:37

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

You do NOT need to run a checksum if you are using the torrent.


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#20 2016-03-06 00:21:35

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Re: Issues with Wifi Support, and Also USB Flash Support

hhh wrote:

@Power, use the BRAND SPANKING NEW rc2 ISO (the network mirror is configured automatically and it includes the most recent packages)...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1321

Ok I finally made an attempt using the RC2, and suffice it to say I did not get anywhere as far as that buffalo adapter goes whether through the graphical install, Bunsen Live, or installed directly onto the HDD. I used both Win32DiskImager, and the cp command with no luck, but in either case at least my bulky RangeMAX Adapter still works with bunsen, and the same password.

I did this with the cp command:

sudo cp bl-Hydrogen-rc2-i386.iso /dev/sdc;sync

It seems that no matter how I install bunsen onto a medium I get the same result, and there does seem to be a mounting issue of some kind that i have noticed with the kernel when booting into Live Bunsen. Not sure if that is the flash drive that I am using or some kind of USB driver issue or whatever the case may be. My guess would be something to do with part of the kernel not loading correctly, but I'm not exactly sure.

This is my exact netbook model if it makes much of difference: Acer D270-1375 (Has a RAM (CM3X2GSD1066), and HDD Upgrade (ST1000LM014-1EJ164), and no internal Wifi which I replaced with that Buffalo Adapter).

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