Sudo vs Polkits

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 19:58:49

Horizon_Brave wrote:

i don't believe I chose any desktop env

That would be why then.

A netinstall with no boxes checked in tasksel is a satisfyingly minimal system 8)

damo · 2016-01-20 20:01:02

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Horizon_Brave wrote:
With the direct download, live CD iso, in a VM.
Which desktop variant did you choose?...

Horizon_Brave wrote:

Installation was from the normal bl Hydrogen-rc1 iso on a dvd

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 20:02:54

D'oh!

Thanks damo

EDIT: From my BLVM:

empty@TheLab:~$ apt search polkit|grep installed
[...]
libpolkit-agent-1-0/stable,now 0.105-8 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libpolkit-backend-1-0/stable,now 0.105-8 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libpolkit-gobject-1-0/stable,now 0.105-8 amd64 [installed,automatic]

Do you have those HB?

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Horizon_Brave · 2016-01-20 20:28:16

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

D'oh!

Thanks damo

EDIT: From my BLVM:

empty@TheLab:~$ apt search polkit|grep installed
[...]
libpolkit-agent-1-0/stable,now 0.105-8 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libpolkit-backend-1-0/stable,now 0.105-8 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libpolkit-gobject-1-0/stable,now 0.105-8 amd64 [installed,automatic]

Do you have those HB?

Nope, doesn't look like it:

root@bunsen:~# apt search polkit |grep installed
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.


root@bunsen:~#

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 20:42:45

Well that output was from a fresh, un-modified BL system so something's clearly gone wrong with your installation.

Does the bl-exit dialogue box work?

tknomanzr · 2016-01-20 20:55:08

If I remember correctly, we added dbus calls for those systems not running systemd for bl-exit.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 20:57:58

^ Oh dear, I'm not doing very well tonight am I?
:8

Does anybody know what needs polkit in a stock BL install?

damo · 2016-01-20 21:53:03

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ Oh dear, I'm not doing very well tonight am I?
:8
Does anybody know what needs polkit in a stock BL install?

The big boys will know, but at least (in autostart)

## for authentication
/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1

And there is on-going discussion here

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Horizon_Brave · 2016-01-21 02:12:50

Okay! So you all (there was never any doubt) are right. On my BunsenLabs set up that I have on my personal computer (which is the more traditional B.L install) does include policykit-1. This personal setup of mine runs openbox, with lightdm in an xserver env. So I suppose that during my install of the work laptop (the one without polkit and any X environment) caused a pretty funky, minimalistic version to be installed. Odd though I used the same exact disc for both, but for the laptop I just to go with a minimal install. No graphical env. So I suppose policykit-1 sort of requires X then? Or at least a Desktop environment?

tknomanzr · 2016-01-21 03:31:09

Not really, I am pretty sure it comes with the standard option, meaning you don't really need a DE or WM, just the standard additional tools installed. I don't think systemd depends on policykit-1 but they are for sure designed to work together. As @HoaS pointed out, it is not required outside of a multi-user environment but it can make some things nicer and more stream-lined in a WM or DE. I suppose for general computing it boils down to personal taste.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-21 07:23:49

Horizon_Brave wrote:

So I suppose policykit-1 sort of requires X then? Or at least a Desktop environment?

Not at all, no.

See my post about minimal netinstalls -- if you don't add it, it won't be there

EDIT: Although the reverse is true -- DEs list some form of polkit authentication agent as a dependency.

See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Po … ion_agents

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Re: Sudo vs Polkits

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