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Horizon_Brave wrote:No gui X at all.
Use gpm to copy&paste in the console
Just installed it... my face when:
Neat! but I still can't paste outside to my host OS right?
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Neat! but I still can't paste outside to my host OS right?
Do you have GA installed and enabled? Did you see my link above...
Preparing a fresh BL install for VB Guest Additions
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There's also script. Of course, then you'd have to worry about getting the log file from the guest session to the host session.
If so inclined though, could I install and run the sudo package and effectively have a "two factor" authorization or permission type? (the system would check both permission standards?) Or can they not co-exist peacefully?
I have gparted-pkexec on my vanilla LXDE install and my internal partition mounting is behind a polkit passwall, but gksudo pcmanfm still works as expected (I took the sudo option during installation), so I'm pretty sure they can peacefully coexist.
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They do. Each serves it's purpose and I am able to see so much potential for achieving granularity of permissions from an administrative point of view, that I would recommend anyone serving in such a capacity become familiar with their differences and when to use each one.
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Neat! but I still can't paste outside to my host OS right?Do you have GA installed and enabled? Did you see my link above...
Preparing a fresh BL install for VB Guest Additions
Whoops, sorry. Yea I have GA installed now. And remember the setup I have for this is NOT using openbox. It's not using any graphical X environment. I mounted the virtualbox iso, in /media/cdrom0, ran the VBoxLinux.iso, rebooted the guest. But I'm still not seeing anything obvious as to *how* to actually go about copying. Right clicking (now with gpm) can copy the text on the console in the guest, but it never transfers to the host. And I do have bi-directional copy/paste selected...
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I don't know how to help with your setup, but is it possible to paste copied text from the guest into a file in a Shared Folder? You could then copy it from the file in the host.
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I don't know how to help with your setup, but is it possible to paste copied text from the guest into a file in a Shared Folder? You could then copy it from the file in the host.
Ooo good idea, I'll try that. But it looks like here:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22264
That running the xterm console just won't work with copy/paste straight from the console. I'll try the copy and paste to the shared folder though...
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I don't know how to help with your setup, but is it possible to paste copied text from the guest into a file in a Shared Folder? You could then copy it from the file in the host.
Thanks damo the shared folder idea worked. A bit more of a hassle but it works...
To continue with this... let's recap:
1. The sudo command and /etc/sudoers file isn't installed because I provisioned a password for my root account during the install.
2. Polkits isn't installed by default in B.L But, the files /usr/share/polkit-1/actions are provided by systemd.
3. To prove the point here is the output of some apt's:
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-show-versions |grep polkit
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-show-versions |grep sudo
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-show-versions |grep pol
libsepol1:amd64/jessie 2.3-2 uptodate
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-cache policy polkit
N: Unable to locate package polkit
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-cache policy pol
N: Unable to locate package pol
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-cache policy policykit-1
policykit-1:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.105-8
Version table:
0.105-8 0
500 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans#
3. So if the polkit package isn't installed... and there's no sudoers file... what exactly is checking for permissions when I try running a command? Because I still get "Permission Denied" when I try to perform 'root' actions. But what is checking this then? Is it just based on file/directory permissions?
4. Because I don't have any active polkits enforced (apparently, unless I'm wrong), what is a program that I can run that will prove this?
Sorry if I keep harping on this, but I'm just trying to really understand the limits, boundaries, and how permissions can work without either apparently.
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You would be looking for policykit-1 and trust me, it is installed.
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...I'm still not seeing anything obvious as to *how* to actually go about copying. Right clicking (now with gpm) can copy the text on the console in the guest, but it never transfers to the host.
Just selecting by right-click isn't enough to copy from VB to host (or back). You have to get the text into the clipboard, not just the selection. In a text editor that means doing Ctrl+C, but if you're in a console it's more difficult. You might not have a clipboard at all.
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3. So if the polkit package isn't installed... and there's no sudoers file... what exactly is checking for permissions when I try running a command? Because I still get "Permission Denied" when I try to perform 'root' actions. But what is checking this then? Is it just based on file/directory permissions?
Yes.
You can just use the root account and su(1) to administrate you system, polkit & sudo(8) are only really needed in true multi-user systems where multiple levels of privilege are required.
I use neither polkit nor sudo(8) in my Debian jessie system.
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2. Polkits isn't installed by default in B.L ...
3. So if the polkit package isn't installed... and there's no sudoers file... what exactly is checking for permissions when I try running a command? Because I still get "Permission Denied" when I try to perform 'root' actions. But what is checking this then? Is it just based on file/directory permissions?
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There is no "polkit" package, so it will never be installed! https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages (Menu -> Help -> Debian -> Package search)
Jessie uses "policykit-1", which is installed.
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root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans# apt-cache policy policykit-1 policykit-1: Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.105-8 Version table: 0.105-8 0 500 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages root@bunsen:/media/sf_Trans#
Damo, Is this not contradictory of that though? I mean there is only one policykit-1 package. I'm just not seeing it. In fact when I do apt-get install policykit-1 I get the whole process of listing the lib's and asking me to install,....weird...anyway installing it now...
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How did you install this system?
Which ISO image did you use (if any)?
What boxes did you tick in tasksel?
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Damo, Is this not contradictory of that though? .....
Well, it has already been established that you aren't running a standard BL installation
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How did you install this system?
Which ISO image did you use (if any)?
What boxes did you tick in tasksel?
With the direct download, live CD iso, in a VM. and the boxes hmm I really don't remember. But I have no openbox running, it just boots to a console with no x server session.
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Horizon_Brave wrote:...
Damo, Is this not contradictory of that though? .....Well, it has already been established that you aren't running a standard BL installation
hehe, apparently not... But you guys are still amazing in terms of being support and not being douches about this...
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With the direct download, live CD iso, in a VM.
Which desktop variant did you choose?
Just to note: we are happy to support non-BL systems here.
I will even answer Ubuntu and Windows queries (if I can)
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Horizon_Brave wrote:With the direct download, live CD iso, in a VM.
Which desktop variant did you choose?
Just to note: we are happy to support non-BL systems here.
I will even answer Ubuntu and Windows queries (if I can)
I have to go through the install process again, but i don't believe I chose any desktop env.
I think I may setup and isntall a 2nd VM to do some comparing of the two. This time I"ll make note of all the options I choose.
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