The Wayland plugin for Carbon

johnraff · 2026-05-25 07:31:35

Made a temporary branch on bunsen-configs so regular carbon can still get upgrades while development goes on with the wayland stuff. Just added labwc's menu.xml and rc.xml:
https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … nsen/labwc

hhh · 2026-05-25 17:29:56

johnraff wrote:

Also I think getting a Trixie/Carbon Wayland desktop out for our users to play with will make the path to Forky much smoother.

I can't argue with that. Let's go.

johnraff · 2026-05-26 06:19:10

Labwc 0.20.0 has been released upstream:
https://github.com/labwc/labwc/releases/tag/0.20.0
But when it will arrive in Debian is another question.
The libinput dependency of >=1.26 is no problem, but wlroots >=0.20.1 might take a little while to arrive.
wlroots 0.20.0 is currently stuck in Unstable with the migration to Testing blocked:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/wlroots

Debian package tracker wrote:

Migration status for wlroots (0.19.3-1 to 0.20.0-2): BLOCKED: Rejected/violates migration policy/introduces a regression
Issues preventing migration:
∙ ∙ removing libwlroots-0.19-dev/0.19.3-1/amd64 from testing makes Build-Depends of src:labwc uninstallable

A bug has been posted on labwc:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … ug=1132208
and the Debian maintainer has been quick getting new releases out in the past, so, depending on the wlroots situation, it might not be too long.

johnraff · 2026-08-20 06:06:33

PS Labwc 0.20.0 entered Debian Testing (Forky) in June this year.

hhh · Yesterday 14:27:36

Since installing Carbon Wayland to a VM is problematic, I've gone ahead and installed it to disc...

1) Install BL Carbon
2) Follow the instructions in BL Welcome, currently it upgrade 270 packages and installs three new ones.
3) In a terminal, run 'sudo apt install bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin' (@johnraff, the OP needs an update, the package there is 'bunsen-meta-wayland-addon')
4) Logout/login to the Wayland session (I love the yellow-background icon, it's like a warning; Caution! Experimental! A nice touch! )

This brings you to a somewhat broken session... no wallpaper, Super doesn't open the menu. You're prompted to update a bunch of configs, I chose "Do All", set a wallpaper with xwwall and logged out/in. I wish I hadn't set the wallpaper because the config updates might have fixed it, it does fix the Super button and some other things.

Not bad at all! Shadows aren't enabled, no big deal. Shadows are there, I just didn't notice. Firefox is missing minimize/maximize buttons, that's a Firefox issue I assume, all other windows appear normal.

There are some issues with the menu; no type-to-search, pressing Super again doesn't close it (Esc does), the All Applications entry is blank. Is this jgmenu under Xwayland? I don't see a process in gnome-system-monitor (which I installed) when I open the menu.

Two things that I noticed that are awesome... The lock screen looks fantastic! gparted launches from the menu!!! How the hell did you manage that, @johnraff?!?? I've been using 'sudo -EH gparted' from a terminal on my niri session.

This is a great start, hats of to @johnraff!

-edit- Added a screenshot that didn't show my IP address.

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DeepDayze · Yesterday 15:36:16

hhh wrote:

Since installing Carbon Wayland to a VM is problematic, I've gone ahead and installed it to disc...
1) Install BL Carbon
2) Follow the instructions in BL Welcome, currently it upgrade 270 packages and installs three new ones.
3) In a terminal, run 'sudo apt install bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin' (@johnraff, the OP needs an update, the package there is 'bunsen-meta-wayland-addon')
4) Logout/login to the Wayland session (I love the yellow-background icon, it's like a warning; Caution! Experimental! A nice touch! )
This brings you to a somewhat broken session... no wallpaper, Super doesn't open the menu. You're prompted to update a bunch of configs, I chose "Do All", set a wallpaper with xwwall and logged out/in. I wish I hadn't set the wallpaper because the config updates might have fixed it, it does fix the Super button and some other things.
https://t3.pixhost.cc/thumbs/6257/780362829_screenshot_2026-10-07_10-42-59.png
Not bad at all! Shadows aren't enabled, no big deal. Firefox is missing minimize/maximize buttons, that's a Firefox issue I assume, all other windows appear normal.
There are some issues with the menu; no type-to-search, pressing Super again doesn't close it (Esc does), the All Applications entry is blank. Is this jgmenu under Xwayland? I don't see a process in gnome-system-monitor (which I installed) when I open the menu.
Two things that I noticed that are awesome... The lock screen looks fantastic! gparted launches from the menu!!! How the hell did you manage that, @johnraff?!?? I've been using 'sudo -EH gparted' from a terminal on my niri session.
This is a great start, hats of to @johnraff!
-edit- Added a screenshot that didn't show my IP address.

Now that's nice and those bugs/glitches ought to be squashed in due time.

johnraff · Today 02:23:18

@hhh Thanks for checking this out!

hhh wrote:

(@johnraff, the OP needs an update, the package there is 'bunsen-meta-wayland-addon')

Ah indeed so - now updated. The provisional package name in this discussion got changed, and the thread with full instructions is here: bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin available for testing

no wallpaper

That's not nice, agreed. The wallpaper should be there right from first boot... and now it is! I overlooked a tweak that the default xwwall config file needed so it would work for all displays, not just mine. Now uploaded to GitHub and if it isn't already in the packages it will be soon.

Firefox is missing minimize/maximize buttons, that's a Firefox issue I assume, all other windows appear normal.

I didn't notice that. When I've finished posting this I'll log into Wayland and have a look.

There are some issues with the menu; no type-to-search, pressing Super again doesn't close it (Esc does), the All Applications entry is blank. Is this jgmenu under Xwayland?

No it's the native labwc menu, so behaviour is slightly different - though I tried to configure it as close as possible to the BL jgmenu. Jgmenu does run on xwayland but there are some things I don't like about it. A lot of menu discussion here. AllApps entry ought to be either fixed or removed from the menu. I'll have a look at that too.

The lock screen looks fantastic!

Isn't it the same as on X11?

gparted launches from the menu!!! How the hell did you manage that, @johnraff?!?? I've been using 'sudo -EH gparted' from a terminal on my niri session.

It's the wrapper script that got added some time ago for pkexec on Wayland.
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 63#p137563
https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … ec.wrapper

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johnraff · Today 05:53:58

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
Firefox is missing minimize/maximize buttons, that's a Firefox issue I assume, all other windows appear normal.
I didn't notice that. When I've finished posting this I'll log into Wayland and have a look.

I had a look and Firefox's top-right min-max buttons look OK. Are you using a non-standard GTK theme?

hhh wrote:
There are some issues with the menu... the All Applications entry is blank.
AllApps entry ought to be either fixed or removed from the menu. I'll have a look at that too.

"All Applications" uses labwc-menu-generator which is only available on Forky. I guess the best way forward would be first to try backporting it to Trixie.

hhh · Today 18:45:21

johnraff wrote:

I had a look and Firefox's top-right min-max buttons look OK. Are you using a non-standard GTK theme?

The standard theme on firefox-esr. It's because the title bar is hidden by default. Fix...

* Right click any tool bar or a blank space in the tab bar.
* Choose 'Customize Toolbar..." at the bottom of the popup menu.
* Check 'Title Bar' at the bottom-left corner of the page.
* Profit! Notice the close button has moved to the title bar.

hhh · Today 18:52:24

johnraff wrote:

"All Applications" uses labwc-menu-generator which is only available on Forky. I guess the best way forward would be first to try backporting it to Trixie.

The forky/sid package installs with no errors on carbon/trixie and populates the menu instantly, so +1 to that.

hhh · Today 19:59:27

johnraff wrote:

The lock screen looks fantastic!
Isn't it the same as on X11?

It looks quite different!

DeepDayze · Today 20:22:10

hhh wrote:

johnraff wrote:
The lock screen looks fantastic!
Isn't it the same as on X11?
It looks quite different!
https://t3.pixhost.cc/thumbs/6286/781097620_x11-lock.png https://t3.pixhost.cc/thumbs/6286/781097659_wayland-lock.png

The labwc lockscreen doesn't show the username, and can that be configured if desired?

hhh · Today 20:39:47

@DD, I don't know. I'm the only user on my laptop so it's not important to me. Feel free to test it yourself.

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