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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

The font: manofur or monofur?

I've had monofur for a long time and I cannot find a manofur font.

It was my default mono font in conky for a while until I found fira code and fira mono fonts

Just curious.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Yes, I think it's the last one left, certainly in the Linux line.

https://www.linux-magazine.com/

I remember Linux Journal was one well regarded magazine and sadly it's been defunct for like about a decade

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Yes, I think it's the last one left, certainly in the Linux line.

https://www.linux-magazine.com/

I remember Linux Journal was one well regarded magazine and sadly it's been defunct for like about a decade

Yeah, Linux Format finished last year but they made the selfless decision to put a lot of their content online and for free;

https://www.linuxformat.com/

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

The font: manofur or monofur?

I've had monofur for a long time and I cannot find a manofur font.

It was my default mono font in conky for a while until I found fira code and fira mono fonts

Just curious.

Monofur My mistake, I should have checked that post before it went out.

In retrospect, if you just want MX I think there are better ways of getting it (like one of the various respins). It's good for people who are really into audio though.

I haven't decided yet whether to keep it or replace it with something else.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Another bad experience to report unfortunately. I'm an admirer of the work the MX team have done over the years and particularly in putting together the MX toolkit, which I always make sure I've got somewhere on my hard drive.

However, when I was trying to install MX 25.2 Fluxbox from the live disk earlier today the system froze completely and I had to reboot it, and that was with just 4 windows open in Firefox along with GParted and the MX installer.

I know I keep banging on about the fact that I've got an old computer but that shouldn't be happening in 8 GB of RAM.

I get on very well with MX 23 (its predecesssor, based on Bookworm), and I think I'll be sticking with that for the time being. I'm posting this from MX 23 XFce wth Fluxbox added on, and it still works well.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

However, when I was trying to install MX 25.2 Fluxbox from the live disk earlier today the system froze completely and I had to reboot it, and that was with just 4 windows open in Firefox along with GParted and the MX installer.

That's quite a bit of memory use right there; and gparted may have had the disk locked. Also, always best to close all applications before installing. The installer will have sole access to system resources. Try the install with only the installer running.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Thanks for the tip PackRat, may try that next time. You'd think 8 GB of RAM would be enough though (especially if like me your first computer came with 8 MB!). We live and learn.

And it's also good that MX 23 still runs well, because being based on Bookworm that one allows me to run 32-bit programs whereas MX-25, based on Trixie, doesn't. I know I'll eventually have to move on from 23 but I'm in no hurry to do so at the moment.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Thanks for the tip PackRat, may try that next time. You'd think 8 GB of RAM would be enough though (especially if like me your first computer came with 8 MB!). We live and learn.

And it's also good that MX 23 still runs well, because being based on Bookworm that one allows me to run 32-bit programs whereas MX-25, based on Trixie, doesn't. I know I'll eventually have to move on from 23 but I'm in no hurry to do so at the moment.

It's not just RAM. It's total system resources. There are also calls to the CPU and disk I/O read-write. The installer is competing with firefox and gparted for all of that.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Thanks for the tip PackRat, may try that next time. You'd think 8 GB of RAM would be enough though (especially if like me your first computer came with 8 MB!). We live and learn.

And it's also good that MX 23 still runs well, because being based on Bookworm that one allows me to run 32-bit programs whereas MX-25, based on Trixie, doesn't. I know I'll eventually have to move on from 23 but I'm in no hurry to do so at the moment.

It's not just RAM. It's total system resources. There are also calls to the CPU and disk I/O read-write. The installer is competing with firefox and gparted for all of that. If this is a 32-bit CPU with 8 GB RAM, multiple applications open will eat that up pretty quick.

For sure. I only have 4 gb of ram and it's still never an issue, it's the CPU (APU on my machine), I always disable the screensaver/power management and close everything before I do a snapshot or an install, both work the CPU pretty hard.

Colonel Panic

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Thanks for the tip PackRat, may try that next time. You'd think 8 GB of RAM would be enough though (especially if like me your first computer came with 8 MB!). We live and learn.

And it's also good that MX 23 still runs well, because being based on Bookworm that one allows me to run 32-bit programs whereas MX-25, based on Trixie, doesn't. I know I'll eventually have to move on from 23 but I'm in no hurry to do so at the moment.

It's not just RAM. It's total system resources. There are also calls to the CPU and disk I/O read-write. The installer is competing with firefox and gparted for all of that.

Thanks for the information, will bear that in mind the next time I carry out an installation (probably over the next few days).

Colonel Panic

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Thanks for the tip PackRat, may try that next time. You'd think 8 GB of RAM would be enough though (especially if like me your first computer came with 8 MB!). We live and learn.

And it's also good that MX 23 still runs well, because being based on Bookworm that one allows me to run 32-bit programs whereas MX-25, based on Trixie, doesn't. I know I'll eventually have to move on from 23 but I'm in no hurry to do so at the moment.

It's not just RAM. It's total system resources. There are also calls to the CPU and disk I/O read-write. The installer is competing with firefox and gparted for all of that. If this is a 32-bit CPU with 8 GB RAM, multiple applications open will eat that up pretty quick.

For sure. I only have 4 gb of ram and it's still never an issue, it's the CPU (APU on my machine), I always disable the screensaver/power management and close everything before I do a snapshot or an install, both work the CPU pretty hard.

Thanks again. This is worth knowing if you're installing MX;

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To disable screen blanking and power management on MX Linux, open the MX Tweak utility, navigate to the Display tab, and set the Power Management and Screensaver features to "Disabled" or "Never". You can also permanently prevent screen blanking from the terminal by running xset s off and xset -dpms.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Had a look ar GhostBSD last night.  Worked pretty good

Colonel Panic

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Had a look ar GhostBSD last night.  Worked pretty good

Excellent! Whenever I've tried GhostBSD though, there always seems to have been something wrong - either it won't install, or the sound doesn't work or whatever. I greatly respect the amount of work the GhostBSD devs have put into trying to create a usable desktop though.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Oh, I didn't try to install it.  Just tried out the wifi and bluetooth. Forgot to try out the analog audio.

Colonel Panic

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

There's a lot to like about the BSD community. They've got really good documentation, an excellent file system (zfs) and a helpful online community on the FreeBSD forums.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I could research setting up my laptop to dual boot both systems, but I'm not sure what the benefits would be given how similar they are.  It's not like dual booting Windows and Linus/FreeBSD or Mac OS and Linux/FreeBSD.

I guess FreeBSD doesn't have Systemd.  But that's not a deal breaker for me on Linux since I'm so used to having it.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

One of the problems FreeBSD used to have was that you couldn't install it into a partition; it had to take over the whole of your hard drive. I don't know whether that's been sorted yet.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

It hasn't

Colonel Panic

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

It hasn't

That's a shame. A lot of people now (and I'm one of them) have several distros on their hard drive already and would be very reluctant to lose them (or get another hard drive) just to be able to use a BSD.

Some even have Windows too.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

It hasn't

That's a shame. A lot of people now (and I'm one of them) have several distros on their hard drive already and would be very reluctant to lose them (or get another hard drive) just to be able to use a BSD.

Some even have Windows too.

It can be done. I believe partitions need to be created and the other OS needs to be installed first. Then install FreeBSD (and I assume Net, Open, and Dragonfly BSDs) on the partition of choice. Do not share the EFI partition. Might be some manual setup for the bootloader.

The FreeBSD forum has a lot of threads for dual booting - i.e. https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/uefi … isk.75734/

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