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#1401 2021-07-11 02:40:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

el_koraco wrote:

Yeah, there were many many dropped frames at the start, but they fixed that fairly early on. I like the desktop metaphor, I actually find it the best one around, but I understand that people may not easily get used to it. If you want to run a Wayland Firefox, you need to add MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 to /etc/environment

Perhaps at some point Firefox and hopefully Chromium will run purely on Wayland...and to run it on X  set some environment variable.

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#1402 2021-07-11 10:15:01

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
el_koraco wrote:

Yeah, there were many many dropped frames at the start, but they fixed that fairly early on. I like the desktop metaphor, I actually find it the best one around, but I understand that people may not easily get used to it. If you want to run a Wayland Firefox, you need to add MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 to /etc/environment

Perhaps at some point Firefox and hopefully Chromium will run purely on Wayland...and to run it on X  set some environment variable.

When Nvidia starts supporting Wayland I guess.

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#1403 2021-07-11 11:52:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

el_koraco wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:
el_koraco wrote:

Yeah, there were many many dropped frames at the start, but they fixed that fairly early on. I like the desktop metaphor, I actually find it the best one around, but I understand that people may not easily get used to it. If you want to run a Wayland Firefox, you need to add MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 to /etc/environment

Perhaps at some point Firefox and hopefully Chromium will run purely on Wayland...and to run it on X  set some environment variable.

When Nvidia starts supporting Wayland I guess.

It's definitely coming...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= … DLSS-Linux

https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

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#1404 2021-07-11 12:37:51

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:

Cool scrot...is that using WSL on the Win11 preview?

Sorry, I almost missed your question.

In particular, I'm thinking this:

scoop0.th.png


Scoop

A command-line installer for Windows

https://scoop.sh/

WSL was installed when it was W10, it might be using some part of WSL.

Install scoop;

scoop install git
scoop install neofetch

8bit

again, sorry for the late reply.

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#1405 2021-07-11 13:39:28

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

el_koraco wrote:

Yeah, there were many many dropped frames at the start, but they fixed that fairly early on. I like the desktop metaphor, I actually find it the best one around, but I understand that people may not easily get used to it. If you want to run a Wayland Firefox, you need to add MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 to /etc/environment

On a new hardware it is worth using or at least trying once GNOME 40. Already made many tweaks, but haven't posted a scrot yet. Thanks for the command, I thought i was using Firefox in Wayland mode by default. However, i did not see any info from firefox --version. I'll give it a go to that command to check it.

THANX!


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#1406 2021-07-11 16:18:07

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I'm hoping there is a way NOT to have to run Wayland.

I left GNOME a long time ago - hated back in 2007 and went to Xfce and then to OpenBox.

I may have to go to KDE.

I will miss OpenBox with no "DE"


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#1407 2021-07-11 19:38:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

My goodness, I think your scrot broke my OS. Debian, what a joke.

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#1408 2021-07-11 20:13:52

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

At some point in the future, Windows will be just another distro. That was always fairly clear. macOS will still hold on to a 10-20 percent share, of course.

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#1409 2021-07-11 20:44:28

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Cool scrot...is that using WSL on the Win11 preview?

Sorry, I almost missed your question.

In particular, I'm thinking this:

What it doesn't say is that 37 of those 44 minutes is boot/configuring time.

lol lol lol


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#1410 2021-07-12 02:47:52

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sector11 wrote:
eight.bit.al wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Cool scrot...is that using WSL on the Win11 preview?

Sorry, I almost missed your question.

In particular, I'm thinking this:

What it doesn't say is that 37 of those 44 minutes is boot/configuring time.

lol lol lol

Wow...that's way slower than booting straight into Linux itself. Windows sure does take a lot of time booting itself LOL.


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#1411 2021-07-12 02:50:00

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Cool scrot...is that using WSL on the Win11 preview?

Sorry, I almost missed your question.

In particular, I'm thinking this:

https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/07/11/scoop0.th.png


Scoop

A command-line installer for Windows

https://scoop.sh/

WSL was installed when it was W10, it might be using some part of WSL.

Install scoop;

scoop install git
scoop install neofetch

8bit

again, sorry for the late reply.

Ah gotcha...I'll check that scoop program out when I set up WSL on my big rig's Win10 partition. I might look to play with WSL myself.


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#1412 2021-07-12 12:05:15

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

What it doesn't say is that 37 of those 44 minutes is boot/configuring time.

lol lol lol

Wow...that's way slower than booting straight into Linux itself. Windows sure does take a lot of time booting itself LOL.

Ha! Just for the record; W10 and now W11 runs really well on this hardware.

8bit


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#1413 2021-07-18 15:01:07

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Happy Sunday. smile

linux.th.png

screen-info.th.png

Moved to Screenshots thread. smile

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 01#p116001

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#1414 2021-07-18 15:09:22

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Happy Sunday. smile

8bit

Happy Sunday to you to 8bit.

I "distro-hop on the spot" so nothing changes.    lol

If it works, don't fix it!


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#1415 2021-07-19 18:56:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

KDE neon     https://neon.kde.org/

KDE neon now on Linux 5.8
"Here at KDE neon we pride ourselves on giving you the
latest from KDE built pronto and QAed and shipped to you
with no questions asked. We also base on the stable
Ubuntu LTS 20.04 release giving a generally stable system."

If one is good with Ubuntu for the base, and it has it's good points, and fresh Plasma is the goal; this is a good choice. Especially of one is looking for minimum software preinstalled. Plasma is quite nimble if the fades, slides, and wobbles, are dialed back; while looking clean and modern. I got re interested in Plasma after spending some time with W11 and noticing how nice general screen rendering was.

Default desktop - ISO

USB-default-desktop.th.png neofetch-USB-default-desktop.th.png

menu.th.png

I can only remember two distros that handled dual monitors OOTB. This and Solus.


8bit

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#1416 2021-07-20 18:36:06

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

I can only remember two distros that handled dual monitors OOTB. This and Solus.8bit

Since you mention it, there's a new version of Solus out now as well;

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solus

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#1417 2021-07-21 00:36:38

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

KDE neon     https://neon.kde.org/

KDE neon now on Linux 5.8
"Here at KDE neon we pride ourselves on giving you the
latest from KDE built pronto and QAed and shipped to you
with no questions asked. We also base on the stable
Ubuntu LTS 20.04 release giving a generally stable system."

If one is good with Ubuntu for the base, and it has it's good points, and fresh Plasma is the goal; this is a good choice. Especially of one is looking for minimum software preinstalled. Plasma is quite nimble if the fades, slides, and wobbles, are dialed back; while looking clean and modern. I got re interested in Plasma after spending some time with W11 and noticing how nice general screen rendering was.

Default desktop - ISO


I can only remember two distros that handled dual monitors OOTB. This and Solus.


8bit

I liked Neon but the older release was on 18.04 which seemed old so might check this release out to play with KDE and I just might go back to KDE on my big rig, maybe a minimal Plasma setup.


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#1418 2021-07-22 10:24:10

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inxi -Sxxx
System:    Host: sidukde Kernel: 5.13.4-2-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 tk: Qt 5.15.2 wm: kwin_x11 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: siduction 16.1.0 Patience - kde - (201702251051) base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 

Screenshot_20210722_115235.th.png    link

For me today like a new birth.  smile
For two days we have been searching the siduction forum for a bug in the new 5.13'er kernels.

There were no nfs; vfat filesystems; no usb disks, partial
no wifi networks, mounted.
It only affected users who used multi-year installations (rolling-release) of 4 years and older.

By comparing with a 5.13'er aptosid kernel, our kernel builder @towo found out that it was due to the missing package usrmerge in these installations.

towo wrote:

In the kernel config the path to modprobe is only valid on systems with usrmerge installed.
In the slh kernel modprobe path is set ti /sbin/modprobe, which is valid on all systems.
And yes. usrmerge is recommend, because it's default in debian bullseye, on buster i'm not sure.

The new kernel, which is building at the moment, should work on all systems, usrmerged or not.

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#1419 2021-07-22 15:35:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I was looking at Artix for Arch without systemd. But, it apparently does not have btrfs, so it's a no go for me.

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#1420 2021-07-29 07:53:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

siduction has officially released the 2021.2.0 yesterday.  smile

Here is my (test)LXDE installation with the batteie patch from @johnraff.   cool

lxde_farewell1.th.png     Link

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#1421 2021-07-29 19:58:08

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

unklar wrote:

siduction has officially released the 2021.2.0 yesterday.  smile

{snip}

Very nice!


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#1422 2021-07-29 23:37:19

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Meh, already running testing. Why bother?

/s looks sweet

That's end sarcasm, boomers.

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#1423 2021-07-30 13:41:51

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@Sector11

Thank you very much, my friend.

If you followed the 2021.2.0 link, you will have noticed the variety of flavors. With this small team, it's always a mystery to me how they manage to do this.  cool
I would love to donate something as well. But unfortunately, like BL, they only offer payment options, which I absolutely do not like.
I don't give my credit card and bank information to the Empire. I wonder if this is Linux or has the empire eaten that too.  mad

By the way, PapirusGrey as an icon theme looks much more pleasing to me.
farewell3Grey.th.png   Link

@hhh, your words are a mystery to me.   big_smile

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#1424 2021-07-31 16:18:12

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Just "might" try siduction someday.

. . . someday . . . maybe

Like when they have an OpenBox edition  big_smile


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#1425 2021-07-31 16:55:48

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sector11 wrote:

Just "might" try siduction someday.

. . . someday . . . maybe

Like when they have an OpenBox edition  big_smile

They have a Fluxbox edition.  cool

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