Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sector11 · 2021-07-31 18:49:25

jeffreyC wrote:

They have a Fluxbox edition.

Yup, I saw that.

Fluxbox is not OpenBox like Linux is not Windows.

{putting on fireproof, bullet proof, virus proof and anti-nuclear proof protection - just in case}

DeepDayze · 2021-07-31 19:52:47

Sector11 wrote:

jeffreyC wrote:
They have a Fluxbox edition.
Yup, I saw that.
Fluxbox is not OpenBox like Linux is not Windows.
{putting on fireproof, bullet proof, virus proof and anti-nuclear proof protection - just in case}

Yes we know you are a rabid die-hard fan of Fluxbox ]:D

unklar · 2021-08-01 07:39:04

Sector11 wrote:

Just "might" try siduction someday.
. . . someday . . . maybe
Like when they have an OpenBox edition

In the LXDE edition it has always been no problem to run the session with OpenBox.

Link

But you should be aware that you have to do a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade at least 1x per week. This is mandatory in the Siduction! Otherwise there is a risk of an unstable system. Unfortunately, you lack some of the hardware power.

I know, my friend, that you share the computer with your dear wife. That's why I had the idea years ago to give you this ThinkPadT500 to you. Unfortunately, however, I was specifically warned not to do so when checking the export regulations.
You yourself have also confirmed this here in the forum, with the "friendly Argentine customs officials".

I have not found a friendly pilot so far....

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hhh · 2021-08-01 08:31:36

Do it. Unstable is more stable than testing (except for now, when testing is in a freeze). Watch the siduction forum and you'll be fine. Problems happen, they get fixed, you just have to wait them out.

Also watch Julias'/machinebacon's Linux BBQ. I thought they were done, but no!

https://linuxbbq.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=9

Meh, one post in the last year, they're done.

Sector11 · 2021-08-01 14:18:52

DeepDayze wrote:

Yes we know you are a rabid die-hard fan of Fluxbox ]:D

Who me .. yup .. {poof}
Well, that was a weird dream.

Sector11 · 2021-08-01 14:55:41

unklar wrote:

{snip}
You yourself have also confirmed this here in the forum, with the "friendly Argentine customs officials".
I have not found a friendly pilot so far....

Thank you ... but it's just is not worth the risk. Friendly pilot or not.

Not even close to worth it.

@ hhh - I ran Debian SID years ago for about 2 years. Loved it, but my fatfingeritis did me in well that and the fact I am the Tpyo Knig.

And I agree for stability SID is more stable than testing.

During that time these aliases came to be:

alias up2='sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade --no-install-recommends'
alias sup2='sudo apt update && apt upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias disup2='sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends'
alias sdisup2='sudo apt update && apt dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'

I still use "up2" all the time.

And yes yes, I know "upgrade" is not necessary, but it had never hurt me and the aliases are there.

And I also see a "do-release-upgrade" when I use Uncle GUGL -> it's an Ubuntu thing, certainly not in my man pages.

DeepDayze · 2021-08-01 15:55:39

I have been running BL upgraded to Sid on my big Ryzen machine for a good while now...no problems so far with it

hhh · 2021-08-02 05:09:34

So, true story. I was posting scrots on the Ubuntu forums back in the day (ten years ago? At least), my Ubuntu install was via Wubi (A brilliant program, it installed Ubuntu Feisty or so onto a Windows XP OS via a virtual manager, it was easy and seamless.)

Finally I installed Gibeon (?) onto a partition, I start PMing gutterslob (now glittersloth, he did a butterfly, molting thing) on the Ubuntu forums. I ask "I want to switch to Debian, what should I try?"

His response... "A little niche distro called CrunchBang that just switched from Ubuntu to Debian, or else aptosid, Debian unstable.

I went with aptosid, that was a good decision.

el_koraco · 2021-08-02 08:26:15

hhh wrote:

gutterslob (now glittersloth, he did a butterfly, molting thing)

He butterflied the nick and avatar and went full corporate with his desktop.

hhh · 2021-08-03 03:14:45

Said the man using GNOME.

el_koraco · 2021-08-03 10:57:30

but I had always been a Red Hat $hill. there was some hope for old pre-molten sob.

glittersloth · 2021-08-03 11:43:49

I blame society.

hhh · 2021-08-04 02:18:26

^ Epic fail, it should have been the Repo Man Scene...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo

hhh · 2021-08-04 02:24:23

On Topic... have y'all heard about a new distro named bullseye? Supposedly it comes out tomorrow...

https://marketresearchtelecast.com/debi … et/114251/

deleted0 · 2021-08-12 02:06:49

Void Linux

https://voidlinux.org/

Fastest distro I have used, by a good margin.
No benchmarks needed to tell, blazing fast. Boots in seconds.
This is going on the main machine as the daily driver.
Package manager (XBPS) is similar to pacman.
nonfree and mulitlib repositories.
runit as the init system and service supervisor.
Minimal packages installed, make it your own.

Dark theme and other personal taste changes:

8bit

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Sector11 · 2021-08-12 16:46:19

eight.bit.al wrote:

Void Linux

How much of a learning curve is there from Debian?

PackRat · 2021-08-12 17:32:59

Sector11 wrote:

eight.bit.al wrote:
Void Linux
How much of a learning curve is there from Debian?

For general use purposes, about a day or two to get used to the xbps commands for installing, updating etc .... The Rosetta Stone is kind of handy.

Void uses the usual software like NetworkManager; nothing really new to learn and the installer (ncurses based) is straight forward. Main runnit services are created during install; new services (i.e ssh server) are easily created with a symlink. They have a handbook. But it is brief, and a work in progress (about 15 devs on the project right now).

One downside, broadcom wireless drivers are in the nonfree repo which is not enabled during the install. You will typically need an ethernet connection to install, then enable the nonfree repo and install broadcom wireless.

Void is rolling release so the kernel and main packages are fairly recent; because of the small dev team it may take a while for a new version of gimp or gnome to show up because of all the dependencies. But it is not bleeding edge like Arch or Sid where thing go bork during the night. Void has a more rigid QA/QC.

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unklar · 2021-08-12 17:37:02

eight.bit.al wrote:

Void Linux
https://voidlinux.org/
Fastest distro I have used, by a good margin.
No benchmarks needed to tell, blazing fast. Boots in seconds.
This is going on the main machine as the daily driver.
Package manager (XBPS) is similar to pacman.
nonfree and mulitlib repositories.
runit as the init system and service supervisor.
Minimal packages installed, make it your own.
https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/08/12/v0.th.png https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/08/12/v1.th.png
Dark theme and other personal taste changes:
https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/08/12/v2.th.png https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/08/12/v3.th.png

8bit

^^Thanks, @8bit

Speedtest = 985 mbps download = dreamlike result

Here, in the wonderland of Germany, I still have to struggle with 8 mbps download.
Exactly 8 years ago(!), the eternal Chancellor of the Germans made the remarkable statement during Obama's visit:
"The Internet is new territory for all of us, and it also enables enemies and opponents of our basic democratic order to threaten our way of life with entirely new possibilities and entirely new approaches."

Unfortunately, nothing has changed in the "new territory" until today..., well, in the fall she wants to step down.

Sector11 · 2021-08-12 19:58:58

@ PackRat

Thanks PackRat, interesting read. Not that I'm going to try anytime soon, it was a question.

DeepDayze · 2021-08-13 00:04:58

PackRat wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
eight.bit.al wrote:
Void Linux
How much of a learning curve is there from Debian?
For general use purposes, about a day or two to get used to the xbps commands for installing, updating etc .... The Rosetta Stone is kind of handy.
Void uses the usual software like NetworkManager; nothing really new to learn and the installer (ncurses based) is straight forward. Main runnit services are created during install; new services (i.e ssh server) are easily created with a symlink. They have a handbook. But it is brief, and a work in progress (about 15 devs on the project right now).
One downside, broadcom wireless drivers are in the nonfree repo which is not enabled during the install. You will typically need an ethernet connection to install, then enable the nonfree repo and install broadcom wireless.
Void is rolling release so the kernel and main packages are fairly recent; because of the small dev team it may take a while for a new version of gimp or gnome to show up because of all the dependencies. But it is not bleeding edge like Arch or Sid where thing go bork during the night. Void has a more rigid QA/QC.

Seems like an interesting distro so might give this one a try as well.

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