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tamberoo · 2021-05-28 14:35:24

What is the best way to train people to see the gradients in the world around them instead of just a simplistic "this is good, that is wrong" view of the world?

glittersloth · 2021-05-28 14:44:22

^ A good terminal colour scheme, followed by mass lobotomization.

Sector11 · 2021-05-28 19:38:39

glittersloth wrote:

^ A good terminal colour scheme, followed by mass lobotomization.

And I was gonna say a 12 gauge!

ohnonot · 2021-05-31 17:16:35

^ wouldn't that be the answer to "What is the best way to train people to a simplistic view of the world, instead of seeing the gradients in it?"

Anyhow: Firefox gets much faster when you dig deep into the settings.
The same goes for Chrom/e/ium: Chromium by itself is probably faster than Chrome. Ungoogled Chromium is significantly faster than Chromium.
Firefox is probably still a tad slower.

glittersloth · 2021-05-31 17:59:14

ohnonot wrote:

^ wouldn't that be the answer to "What is the best way to train people to a simplistic view of the world, instead of seeing the gradients in it?"

What, you never heard of lolcat?! =P

I was trying to be PC, okay. Saying "legalize LSD" probably wouldn't have gone down so well in some quarters. You know, with the world lacking the ability to see gradients and all, my choice of recreational drug might pigeonhole me as a hippie, angering the firearms lobbyists.

Just like my opinion of Wrath of Man. I liked the film, but since it didn't feature female empowerment, I'm being called a right-wing chauvinist now. Da fuq! O_o?

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hhh · 2021-06-01 01:19:57

glittersloth wrote:

"legalize LSD"

Intriguing, but I think the people who want to do LSD are already doing it are have done enough of it.

Death penalty for parking tickets, that will get rid of a ton of self-entitled assholes right there.

jeffreyC · 2021-06-01 12:53:29

hhh wrote:

Death penalty for parking tickets, that will get rid of a ton of self-entitled assholes right there.

A pity we cannot have public floggings sometimes.

glittersloth · 2021-06-01 18:38:48

The new Firefox UI "proton" looks like garbage on all platforms.

Only just read about this. Those tabs!! Does this mean it no longer integrates with the tab style of our GTK theme anymore? If so, we're back at square one again. Moronzilla!!

glittersloth · 2021-06-02 05:50:51

^ Thanks for that, but it seems these switches will be dropped in the near future.
Won't even make it to the next ESR; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1709425#c2

Grim and a bit insensitive, but I'm sharing anyway;

someone on a comments section somewhere wrote:

The new design is adapted to cognitive and functional decline in COVID-19 survivors.

Haven't updated to FF89 yet. I'm currently on UbuntuLTS so it'll probably take a few days to make its way down to the repos. I generally don't judge before I've tried, but those tabs really do look awful.

Jimbo_G · 2021-06-02 07:51:14

I updated yesterday and no complaints from me. The new tabs are a big change but I actually quite like them. I would hardly say that FF88 was a UI masterpiece...

Is the problem with the tabs that they don't look like tabs in a IRL paper folder any more? See "toxic skeuomorphism" here: https://davidyat.es/2021/01/10/death-to-the-document/

el_koraco · 2021-06-02 09:05:35

The good folks at the Firefox Gnome theme have updated everything to normal. But on Windows, where Firefox used to look pretty good, this is jut plain murder.

el_koraco · 2021-06-02 10:27:33

Jimbo_G wrote:

Is the problem with the tabs that they don't look like tabs in a IRL paper folder any more? See "toxic skeuomorphism" here: https://davidyat.es/2021/01/10/death-to-the-document/

Weak contrast, more stolen screen real estate, pale on pale, the usual new school design inefficiencies. At least on Windows that is, I think GTK theming kind of improves on this, but I'm running the Gnome theme for Firefox on Linux, so I can't say. The tabs themselves are not bad, but everything else blows.

glittersloth · 2021-06-02 11:03:50

el_koraco wrote:

I think GTK theming kind of improves on this, but I'm running the Gnome theme for Firefox on Linux, so I can't say. The tabs themselves are not bad, but everything else blows.

What exactly does "Gnome theme for Firefox" mean? Stock FF without GTK integration, or the stock distro theme (usually Yaru or Adwaita)? From everything I've read, FF89 will use it's new floaty rounded tabs even if your system GTK has a different tab style. Screenshot if you don't mind, with something else like Nautilus with tabs open for comparison?

Edit:
Oh, did you mean this?
https://github.com/rafaelmardojai/firefox-gnome-theme
That actually looks quite alright. Very Epiphany-esque. Where do the extension icons go though?

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Sector11 · 2021-06-02 18:44:22

Looks like FireFox is going to go up in flames.

Instead of distro-hopping the new activity: browser-hopping

el_koraco · 2021-06-02 19:07:22

glittersloth wrote:

Edit:
Oh, did you mean this?
https://github.com/rafaelmardojai/firefox-gnome-theme
That actually looks quite alright. Very Epiphany-esque. Where do the extension icons go though?

Yessir, that is what I mean. It is meant to mimic Epiphany to the last detail, but you only get an Adwaita version. The extensions icons go where ever you want them. They get their own little white rectangle, like the menu or downloads or navigation icons.

jeffreyC · 2021-06-02 19:42:36

When theming something so it looks like GNOME improves it you know it is going down in flames.

Naik · 2021-06-02 20:42:35

jeffreyC wrote:

When theming something so it looks like GNOME improves it you know it is going down in flames.

+1

BTW I am on ff nightly from time to time (on bunsenlabs) and quit like the look too! I like it round...

naik --greetz

hhh · 2021-06-03 04:24:48

I'm sorry, what are you all on about? FF 89.0 looks fine here, except for the chopped tail fox icon (I dislike it a lot, but it's fine)...

Thanks for the heads up, firefox-esr is gone from my system.

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johnraff · 2021-06-03 06:33:35

firefox-esr is still 78 on Debian:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw … ection=all
That's fine with me, but I suppose 89 will come sooner or later...

Jimbo_G · 2021-06-03 06:51:03

After a day spent working with it, I prefer FF89, both on my Windows work laptop and on my BL system with the default BL theme. I do agree that the default FF dark theme is lacking in contrast, and the default light theme is not much better. Luckily there are thousands of themes to choose from

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