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#176 2021-05-03 13:12:51

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#177 2021-05-04 06:22:49

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

I have been testing Pipewire and it seems to run fine for a few hours of solid music listening and then all of a sudden I seem to hit like a bottleneck of sorts and I get stuttering music and really crappy audio.

Switch back to pulseaudio and no more issues.


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#178 2021-05-04 06:27:00

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

^ it took pulseaudio decades to get that sort of issues right, didn't it.
But - as they promise - combining JACK and Pulse into one sounds intriguing.


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#179 2021-05-04 19:58:36

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

ohnonot wrote:

^ it took pulseaudio decades to get that sort of issues right, didn't it.
But - as they promise - combining JACK and Pulse into one sounds intriguing.

So in other words pretty much as expected for Lennartware.

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#180 2021-05-06 17:07:37

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

^ sorry, are you saying Pipewire is Lennartware? Not sure I understood.


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#181 2021-05-07 01:22:05

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

ohnonot wrote:

^ sorry, are you saying Pipewire is Lennartware? Not sure I understood.

Sorry no, that was directed towards pulseaudio which was inflicted upon us in a pre-alpha state.

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#182 2021-05-07 01:25:37

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

jeffreyC wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

^ sorry, are you saying Pipewire is Lennartware? Not sure I understood.

Sorry no, that was directed towards pulseaudio which was inflicted upon us in a pre-alpha state.

And which was an L. Pott creation.

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#183 2021-05-07 06:36:01

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

jeffreyC wrote:

pulseaudio which was inflicted upon us in a pre-alpha state.

Surely the community has learned the lesson and will not push pipewire prematurely, right? ... Right?!

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#184 2021-05-07 07:00:12

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

o9000 wrote:
jeffreyC wrote:

pulseaudio which was inflicted upon us in a pre-alpha state.

Surely the community has learned the lesson and will not push pipewire prematurely, right? ... Right?!

It was invented by Red Hat employees.
They sell support.
It is in their economic interest for their product to break, so they release buggy code.
After all; who would pay for support on something that never fails?

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#185 2021-05-07 11:52:16

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

o9000 wrote:
jeffreyC wrote:

pulseaudio which was inflicted upon us in a pre-alpha state.

Surely the community has learned the lesson and will not push pipewire prematurely, right? ... Right?!

We literally are just an Openbox/tint2/conky, LIVE USB, WiFi driver friendly config of Debian. When they adopt Pipewire, we adopt Pipewire (unless there's a better available setup, like if Pipewire turns out to be buggier than is acceptable and PulseAudio is still in the Debian repos, which it will be, we'll stay with Pulse for a bit longer).

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#186 2021-05-10 03:06:43

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

Pipewire now has crept into Debian...albeit disabled by default but down the road it may be the be-all replacement for Pulse. Hopefully it will truly be better and looking for the wiki and reviews on Pipewire before I am comfortable in setting it up.

Maybe a guide for setting PipeWire up on BL?


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#187 2021-05-10 04:50:17

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

Pulse had a bad start, but is it that awful now?

Anyway:

jeffreyC wrote:
o9000 wrote:
jeffreyC wrote:

pulseaudio which was inflicted upon us in a pre-alpha state.

Surely the community has learned the lesson and will not push pipewire prematurely, right? ... Right?!

It was invented by Red Hat employees.
They sell support.
It is in their economic interest for their product to break, so they release buggy code.
After all; who would pay for support on something that never fails?

Pipewire wrote:

It was created by Wim Taymans, Principal Engineer at Red Hat and co-creator of the GStreamer multimedia framework.

https://pipewire.org/#documentation


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#188 2021-05-10 06:21:05

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

johnraff wrote:

Pulse had a bad start, but is it that awful now?

This.


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#189 2021-05-10 15:06:33

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

ohnonot wrote:
johnraff wrote:

Pulse had a bad start, but is it that awful now?

This.

So we should just give it about 15 years and it will be usable?

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#190 2021-05-10 15:15:49

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

jeffreyC wrote:
ohnonot wrote:
johnraff wrote:

Pulse had a bad start, but is it that awful now?

This.

So we should just give it about 15 years and it will be usable?

It's already working, like on latest Fedora (where it's the default) or Arch. Just the Debian family is lagging and shy of selecting a new default. In order to use it, up-to-date versions of packages are a hard requirement...

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#191 2021-05-20 18:57:34

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

Hey there!

On a totally other topic: Bunsenlabs Linux should be correctly identified by
Lynis (Security Software) from version 3.0.5 on as of this closed issue.

Naik --greetz

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#192 2021-05-20 20:03:14

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

ohnonot wrote:
johnraff wrote:

Pulse had a bad start, but is it that awful now?

This.

I use PulseAudio on Bullseye with no issues, I mix my radio shows using it. I do use the equalizer sink (default flat settings), the speaker output sounds better to my ear...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=5700

I was just reporting some news that might affect BunsenLabs.

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#193 2021-07-23 00:58:26

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

Releasing bullseye on 14 August 2021

...we now have a release date for
bullseye: 14 August. For the avoidance of doubt, this is *not* a
tentative date anymore.

Debian-release mailing list:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-release … 00669.html


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#194 2021-07-23 02:11:51

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

Right, let's go boys!

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#195 2021-07-23 02:20:18

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

Yup!


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#196 2021-07-23 15:51:28

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

johnraff wrote:

Releasing bullseye on 14 August 2021

...we now have a release date for
bullseye: 14 August. For the avoidance of doubt, this is *not* a
tentative date anymore.

Debian-release mailing list:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-release … 00669.html

So Beryllium is near. Go Team BL!


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#197 2021-07-24 03:31:24

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Re: News that might affect BunsenLabs

New sources have been added for bullseye, security updates and volatile updates...

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main non-free contrib
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian buster main non-free contrib

## Debian security updates
#deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free

# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb https://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free

# buster-backports
#deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main

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