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#1301 2021-04-14 02:18:40

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Been hearing about Garuda Linux.
Arch with the Calamares installer.
BTRFS as the default filesytem.
GUI package manament, kernel installer,
and more tools; some look like MX Linux copies.

Way too busy for me. Look at the system tray area.

https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/04/13/Garuda.th.png

Address books, calenders, and a lot more installed and running.

https://scrot.cloud/images/2021/04/13/Garuda2.th.png

Just a drive-by look-see. Not getting space on the hard drive.

8bit

That looks promising but they should offer a lite version with minimal apps so then you can install only what you want. if I am going to play with Arch I'd go with Archlabs smile


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#1302 2021-04-17 13:25:28

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

While away some hours:   (the only surviving use of the verb while, meaning “to spend time.”)

Welcome to DistroTest.net

On our website you will find many operating systems,
which you can test directly online without a installation.

https://distrotest.net/index.php

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#1303 2021-04-17 23:05:59

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Huh? Oh, I see... the only instance of 'while' as a transitive verb. Nice trivia, and a killer link!

Askos4yt.png

Requires VNC to be installed to actually boot anything, right?

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#1304 2021-04-17 23:49:26

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Honorable Mention:

BusterDog

https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz03busterdog.html

BusterDog, based on the Debian ‘Buster’ branch but without systemd.
It’s using special method (taken from AntiX) to avoid systemd by replacing systemd with ‘elogind’.
(and more, e.g. libsystemd replaced by libelogind)


    Tint2 panels
    PcmanFM providing the Desktop and lxpanel
    Tint2 bottom panel and rox-pinboard providing the Desktop

Option to switch to JWM window-manager
Default File Manager - PcmanFM with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Palemoon.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Debia … erdog1.jpg

Booted on my test machine in 720Xwhatever; no firmware for my generic AMD card, no drivers for my USB mouse, 'nuff said.

8bit

I think this is one of the Puppy Linux family of distros. I tried it out briefly this evening and it seems to work well except that Pale Moon has a tendency to "freeze up" and become unresponsive when playing Youtube videos (on my system anyway).

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#1305 2021-04-18 00:00:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

I think this is one of the Puppy Linux family of distros. I tried it out briefly this evening and it seems to work well except that Pale Moon has a tendency to "freeze up" and become unresponsive when playing Youtube videos (on my system anyway).

Not directly a Puppy Linux, but made with some ideas from it by some of the Puppy forum members.

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#1306 2021-04-18 01:31:22

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

Requires VNC to be installed to actually boot anything, right?

No, distros will run on your browser. smile (with lots of lag)

8bit

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#1307 2021-04-18 09:03:53

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

jeffreyC wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I think this is one of the Puppy Linux family of distros. I tried it out briefly this evening and it seems to work well except that Pale Moon has a tendency to "freeze up" and become unresponsive when playing Youtube videos (on my system anyway).

Not directly a Puppy Linux, but made with some ideas from it by some of the Puppy forum members.

Thanks. I have a soft spot for Puppy as it was one of the first Linux distros I ever used (back in 2006), and for a long time it was the only distro which allowed you to save a live session and then reload it at a later date with all the settings intact.

On the subject of distros made with ideas from some of the Puppy forum, I like the look of Barry Kauler's recent project EasyOS and look forward to trying it soon; Barry was Puppy's original creator and Puppy's development is still governed by the ideas he incorporated into it, such as Woof-CE, Puppy's official build system which facilitates the construction of a Puppy distro from another base such as Debian or Slackware.

https://puppylinux.com/woof-ce.html

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#1308 2021-04-18 11:19:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

I like the look of Barry Kauler's recent project EasyOS and look forward to trying it soon;

It's been a year or so since I last looked at EasyOS; a very interesting project. Thanks for the reminder. smile

https://easyos.org/about/how-and-why-ea … erent.html

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#1309 2021-04-18 17:13:20

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I like the look of Barry Kauler's recent project EasyOS and look forward to trying it soon;

It's been a year or so since I last looked at EasyOS; a very interesting project. Thanks for the reminder. smile

https://easyos.org/about/how-and-why-ea … erent.html

8bit

You're welcome. I agree it looks very interesting especially Barry's use of containers.

The only question mark I can see is his liking for jwm (which Puppy also uses), which although it works passably well is one of the less configurable and capable window managers out there - you can't set it up to be able to middle-click on the desktop and get a listing of all the open windows, for example, which I do a lot in other WMs such as Openbox and XFce.

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#1310 2021-04-19 00:37:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

The only question mark I can see is his liking for jwm (which Puppy also uses), which although it works passably well is one of the less configurable and capable window managers out there - you can't set it up to be able to middle-click on the desktop and get a listing of all the open windows, for example, which I do a lot in other WMs such as Openbox and XFce.

But jwm is so minimal that you can easily install another WM or DE along with or instead of it.

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#1311 2021-04-19 01:45:50

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Jwm is 529KB smile Can grab a basket of WM's and never get full.  big_smile

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#1312 2021-04-19 02:18:05

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

sleekmason wrote:

Jwm is 529KB smile Can grab a basket of WM's and never get full.  big_smile

I use jwm as a backup WM in case Openbox breaks or has an issue or that I mess up the config enough to make it unusable. From within jwm I can then say reinstall OB and reconfigure.


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#1313 2021-04-19 02:19:44

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Speaking of JWM, first up in the basket of distro hopping updates is Sparky 6 Feather:

Bullseye with a lightweight JWM/PCmanFM desktop.

https://osdn.net/projects/sparkylinux-6 … r-edition/

A user contributed spin. Pre-installed software:

    Redshift screen color temperature adjuster
    Mousepad text editor
    Firefox-esr web browser
    Mute e-mail client
    Blueman bluetooth support
    Xarchiver archiving tool
    Galculator
    Ristretto image viewer
    Xpdf pdf viewer
    Xscreensaver
    LXterminal
    Synaptic package manager with xapian index
    Mplayer media player

jwm1.th.png - jwm2.th.png - jwm0.th.png

Next up:

Salient OS - An Arch Linux Operating System
Salient OS is a rolling-release distribution aimed at Creative Multi-Media and Gaming Enthusiasts.

https://salientos.github.io/

    Archlinux Base
    BIOS or UEFI
    Rolling Release Model
    AUR Support (if needed)
    PAMAC / YAY Included
    XFCE / KDE Plasma
    Calamares Installer
    Optimised for Gamers (gamemode, dxvk etc)
    Optimised for Multimedia (realtime audio config)
    CUPS Printer Support
    Quick Menu Access
    Lutris / Steam Included
    System Limits Optimised (limits.conf / user.conf)

salient0.th.png - salient1.th.png - salient3.th.png

But don't go anywhere because:

BluestarLinux (an Arch Linux-based distribution)

Bluestar provides the following features:

Up-to-date Kernel
Wide Variety of Applications - Always Current Versions
Full Development / Desktop / Multimedia Environment

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/

bluestar0.th.png - bluestar1.th.png
bluestar2.th.png - bluestar4.th.png

Until next time!

8bit

edit: sharp eyed readers may notice an upgrade for the test machine.

Last edited by eight.bit.al (2021-04-19 02:23:06)


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#1314 2021-04-19 10:39:11

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

sleekmason wrote:

Jwm is 529KB smile Can grab a basket of WM's and never get full.  big_smile

(and others who have commented on jwm)

True, and some Puppy users did install other WMs - a popular choice is / was IceWM, which does allow middle-clicking on the desktop to bring up a listing of all the open windows. The only problem I've found with IceWM (which I'm using at the moment in Bunsen, to prove a point) is that it looks "retro" and doesn't seem to have been updated for a while.

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#1315 2021-04-19 13:21:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

The only question mark I can see is his liking for jwm (which Puppy also uses), which although it works passably well is one of the less configurable and capable window managers out there - you can't set it up to be able to middle-click on the desktop and get a listing of all the open windows, for example, which I do a lot in other WMs such as Openbox and XFce.

I can tolerate JWM (with a non-hideous config).
What I have huge problems with is rox-filer which is also why I have problems with antiX.
Both of them use rox to take over the desktop, so they can have icons on the desktop (which I also do not like).

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#1316 2021-04-19 19:08:39

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:
sleekmason wrote:

Jwm is 529KB smile Can grab a basket of WM's and never get full.  big_smile

(and others who have commented on jwm)

True, and some Puppy users did install other WMs - a popular choice is / was IceWM, which does allow middle-clicking on the desktop to bring up a listing of all the open windows. The only problem I've found with IceWM (which I'm using at the moment in Bunsen, to prove a point) is that it looks "retro" and doesn't seem to have been updated for a while.

IceWM is pretty much the lightest of all the stacking WM's...anything lighter pretty much is mainly a tiler.

Sometimes the retro look is pretty pleasing to the old-timers, so IceWM deserves a place on your machine smile


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#1317 2021-04-19 20:37:57

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:

Sometimes the retro look is pretty pleasing to the old-timers, so IceWM deserves a place on your machine smile

If you have decent Gimp skills and some patience, IceWM can look pretty good.


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#1318 2021-04-19 21:03:50

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

jeffreyC wrote:

Both of them use rox to take over the desktop, so they can have icons on the desktop (which I also do not like).

you should try Gnome then (:ducks:)

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#1319 2021-04-19 23:37:15

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

el_koraco wrote:
jeffreyC wrote:

Both of them use rox to take over the desktop, so they can have icons on the desktop (which I also do not like).

you should try Gnome then (:ducks:)

BTW, el_k is currently using GNOME, I believe, and I'm on Cinnamon with no desktop icons (also ducks).

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#1320 2021-04-20 04:12:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

The only question mark I can see is his liking for jwm (which Puppy also uses), which although it works passably well is one of the less configurable and capable window managers out there

Agreed. Also manual tiling capabilities (window manipulation keybinds) are practically non-existent.
Can't argue the installation size, though. And it includes a panel, yes?

Colonel Panic wrote:

The only problem I've found with IceWM (which I'm using at the moment in Bunsen, to prove a point) is that it looks "retro" and doesn't seem to have been updated for a while.

Disagreed on both points:

And it includes a panel...
But I believe its manual tiling capabilities are equally limited.
____

And as I wrote elsewhere about comparing WMs:

ohnonot wrote:

the comparative bars graphics are hardly more than meaningless populism; it's only useful for a complete newb to get their bearings on the DE market.
a comparison like that would have to include much more to be truly useful.
e.g., if i use KDE i get all sorts of desktop widgets. are they included in the graph or not?
and if i use openbox with a conky, should the conky be added to openbox' ram usage (to make the comparison fair)?

etc...


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#1321 2021-04-20 16:32:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Easy OS author has a utility that looks interesting:

EasyDD

Another Linux tool is the EasyDD utility, that may be run in a terminal on the commandline, or as a GUI. Even if you like to use the commandline in Linux, it is good to use EasyDD rather than dd, as EasyDD helps to choose the correct target-drive, and does a lot of sanity checking. Even wiz's can make dumb mistakes!

    EasyDD verifies writes:
    A good reason to choose EasyDD is that it now does two-stage verification. Firstly, the inverse of the image file (all bits flipped) is written to the drive, then read back to verify. Secondly, the actual image file is written, then verified. This verification has limited usefulness with SSDs, that have error correction in hardware, however likely to be very useful with cheap Flash sticks.

https://easyos.org/install/how-to-write … drive.html  Half way down the page.

I haven't tried it yet.

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#1322 2021-04-21 02:32:34

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

PackRat wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Sometimes the retro look is pretty pleasing to the old-timers, so IceWM deserves a place on your machine smile

If you have decent Gimp skills and some patience, IceWM can look pretty good.

I took a look at some of those themes and love the Ice-Matcha one so maybe I'll play with IceWM again smile


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#1323 2021-04-21 02:34:15

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

el_koraco wrote:
jeffreyC wrote:

Both of them use rox to take over the desktop, so they can have icons on the desktop (which I also do not like).

you should try Gnome then (:ducks:)

hhh wrote:
el_koraco wrote:
jeffreyC wrote:

Both of them use rox to take over the desktop, so they can have icons on the desktop (which I also do not like).

you should try Gnome then (:ducks:)

BTW, el_k is currently using GNOME, I believe, and I'm on Cinnamon with no desktop icons (also ducks).

Lol El_k and Triple H ducking over GNOME big_smile big_smile

GNOME has its place too ya know so don't be afraid!!!

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#1324 2021-04-21 05:21:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:

GNOME has its place too ya know so don't be afraid!!!

Dude, I love my Cinnamon installs.

BTW, did anyone see the news that Slackware is back?

https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/04/slackware-15-0-beta/

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#1325 2021-04-21 09:42:12

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

BTW, did anyone see the news that Slackware is back?

Saw that information on the Slackware forum at Linuxquestions. Good news.

And Slackware never left; you can always get the Slackware-cutrent iso. The Slackware "development" releases. Pretty stable.


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