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#1 2024-02-06 10:20:49

Colonel Panic
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Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Ho there. Has anyone else noticed any problems with the most recent versions of Firefox?

In particular, it seems to freeze up for no obvious reason. Links won't open, tabs won't close or respond when clicked on in the toolbar etc., and the only thing for it is to close or kill the browser and then either start again with a new Firefox session or use a different browser like Seamonkey instead, as I'm doing now.

Just want to know whether other people are having the same problem, or it's just me and my computer?

Thanks in advance,

CP .

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#2 2024-02-06 10:39:46

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

No freeze in 'flatpak run one.ablaze.floorp' (11.9.0)
Floorp is based on Firefox AFAIK.


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#3 2024-02-06 11:41:43

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Thanks for replying. I'll look into Floorp soon.

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#4 2024-02-06 12:38:10

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

I'm not going to agree to their privacy policy.


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#5 2024-02-06 16:47:53

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Chinese?

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#6 2024-02-06 17:46:56

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Japanese. Extension ImTranslator works here as well.


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#7 2024-02-06 19:24:58

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Thanks. I've installed it now and it looks OK but like many things with Flatpak (and AppImage) it downloads a lot of additional libraries, so you end up with almost a 500MB download for one browser.

Is it possible with Flatpaks to just copy and paste them over between distros so that you don't have to download the whole gubbins every time?

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#8 2024-02-06 21:13:18

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

As I've read:
'Flatpak packaged programs should contain their needed dependencies ..
Downside is bloat as flatpak versions will therefore be bigger than official repo or PPA.'
I like to live dangerously. Switched to PPA.
3rd option to build from source is still ahead.
https://floorp.app/en/download/

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#9 2024-02-07 07:05:09

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#10 2024-02-07 23:02:57

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

I'm trying the latest version of Waterfox (G6.0.8) at the moment and so far I'm very impressed; no problems with it at all. I think Zenwalk use it as their main browser now.

I didn't have any problems with Firefox either until recently.

Even Seamonkey is usually pretty good and reliable. I've stopped using Pale Moon because some of the sites I try to access with it tag it as an old browser and won't let me onto them.

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#11 2024-02-09 19:50:28

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

I run current Firefox and it updated a few days ago to 122.0.1.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/1 … out-dialog


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#12 2024-02-10 01:42:40

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

What do you get with Firefox 122 that you don't get with 115 (esr)?


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#13 2024-02-24 18:50:46

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Good question; probably some security fixes etc. I feel the same about Thunderbird; I've been running versions 52 and 69 of that when I was having problems with the most recent one, and they've both been perfectly fine.

When I was on the Puppy boards there was a fellow poster called Mike B who had retired to Ireland and made a point of always running the oldest version of every software package he could get away with; he became something of a mentor for me there. The last I saw he was still running Firefox 3.

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#14 2024-02-24 19:17:43

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Robi wrote:

As I've read:
'Flatpak packaged programs should contain their needed dependencies ..
Downside is bloat as flatpak versions will therefore be bigger than official repo or PPA.'
I like to live dangerously. Switched to PPA.
3rd option to build from source is still ahead.
https://floorp.app/en/download/

Thanks for replying. The answer's "no" by the sound of it then? PPA would have probably have suited me better as well as I dislike that much bloat.

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#15 2024-02-25 01:37:19

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

johnraff wrote:

What do you get with Firefox 122 that you don't get with 115 (esr)?

It's now 123. Nothing important, and nothing security wise or lack of bugginess. I just like having the newest stable stuff when possible...

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/1 … easenotes/

It's why I'm using Ubuntu, or why some people run sid. My current stable kernel, which came through yesterday, is 6.5.0-21. Is the OS better? Maybe for a few apps. Is it doable? Oh, hell yeah. Looking forward to upgrading to Noble Numbat in late April, that'll be my second upgrade on this GNOME 45 setup (Lunar to Mantic to Noble). Ubuntu says they'll be using GNOME 46 for Noble. Looking forward to seeing what that breaks.

GNOME version for bookworm is 43?

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/gnome

I'm just trying to run something nearly as current as Arch without having to deal with Arch, the Arch aur, pacman, nor sid breakage. apt till I die, and the OS has been completely solid so far.

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But that's all way off topic. Firefox ESR is a great release. Not buggy at all, as far as I can tell. If you think it's buggy and outdated, the latest Mozilla instructions are clear...

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/in … lla-builds

This is nearly identical to this old Iceweasel tutorial by me, although mine includes a step for Debian Alternatives, which is nice...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1385


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#16 2024-02-25 04:24:01

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Firefox and Thunderbird on Debian get all the security updates, as @hhh already noted.
My experience with major upgrades to date has generally been a mad trawl of the web to find how to wind back the latest nifty GUI tweak to what I had previously.

When I used Ubuntu back in the misty past before Crunchbang I used to wait for the release I was using to be two releases old before upgrading, just so the bugs would be fixed.

I usually hate what comes with major GUI upgrades.

Different strokes for different folks.


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#17 2024-02-25 06:04:49

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

johnraff wrote:

I usually hate what comes with major GUI upgrades.

I think this is universally agreed upon by users. We learned how to use the program, and now devs want us to re-learn how to use that program. What?

Bones (Leonard McCoy, played by DeForest Kelly) in the first Star Trek movie (Star Trek: The Motion Picture, 1979) has an iconic line about this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OzbKckkaJU

johnraff wrote:

... the misty past...

"The Misty Past" is a great name for a band or a film. Or a metal song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSbsCUDZT-s

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#18 2024-02-25 06:59:40

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

The thing I don't like about major upgrades to FF is the possibility to break my custom CSS.

Hello @hhh, cheers for the share.


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#19 2024-02-25 07:21:05

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Firefox 115esr started freezing for me too. I'm trying Firefox Nightly.
Introducing Mozilla’s Firefox Nightly .deb Package for Debian-based Linux Distributions


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#20 2024-02-25 07:38:54

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Re: Is Firefox buggy at the moment?

Not noticed anything weird with Firefox here, neither 115, or current.

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