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#1 2016-02-23 06:23:40

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Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Copied/modified from the #! forums...
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=39834

Iceweasel in Jessie is meh. Avoid mozilla.debian.net and get Firefox and it's updates right from the source...
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

-edit- If you prefer something a little more stable, download the latest Extended Support Release...
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/rel … inux-i686/
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/rel … ux-x86_64/ /-edit-

Extract the archive and move your new firefox folder to some location, I chose /opt. Open the folder, you'll find a file named firefox (right before firefox-bin). Create a symlink to the firefox file and place it in /usr/local/bin.

Open a terminal and enter...sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /usr/local/bin/firefox 50 Then enter... sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser... and choose the number for Firefox and enter it.

Open /usr/share/applications and find the desktop file named Iceweasel (iceweasel.desktop). Open it in a text editor and replace the contents with...
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Firefox
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Exec=firefox %u
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=firefox
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
StartupWMClass=Firefox
StartupNotify=true

Save it as firefox.desktop and logout to refresh the icon for your new desktop file. Firefox will update itself every time it starts, or you can open the Help menu (Alt+H) and open the About window, that forces an update check as well. Remove iceweasel if you wish (every time you switch Iceweasel/Firefox it will check compatibility with your ~./mozilla profile).

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#2 2016-06-19 22:19:57

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

For Flash, uninstall flashplugin-nonfree from Debian and get the latest libflashplayer.so from Adobe. Download the .tar.gz for other Linux file...

https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect

Create the folder ~/.mozilla/plugins

Extract the tar.gz and move libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins and restart Firefox.

And then hope Flash dies sooner rather than later.

Firefox will block an outdated plugin and warn you. Download the new version if it's available, replace the old .so file and restart Firefox. Debian typically is a day or two behind these updates at best.

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#3 2016-06-19 22:55:43

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Is there a problem with Firefox ESR?
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firefox-esr

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#4 2016-06-20 06:43:17

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

For those who want Iceweasel back, see https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefo … -branding/

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#5 2016-06-20 15:34:08

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Has the switch to Firefox actually broken anything? I'm just curious I'm still running with Iceweasel here. Does it require an update of the packages or do you have to actually go and retrieve Firefox to get it?


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#6 2016-06-20 16:09:46

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Horizon_Brave wrote:

Has the switch to Firefox actually broken anything? I'm just curious I'm still running with Iceweasel here. Does it require an update of the packages or do you have to actually go and retrieve Firefox to get it?

It will come in as an apt-get upgrade, unless you put it on hold.
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=2176


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#7 2016-06-20 18:10:43

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Horizon_Brave wrote:

I'm still running with Iceweasel here.

That version of Iceweasel is riddled with security holes, you should update it ASAP.

Use:

sudo apt upgrade

Or:

sudo aptitude upgrade

Or:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

See https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3600


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#8 2016-06-20 20:31:20

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

mrneilypops wrote:

Is there a problem with Firefox ESR?
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firefox-esr

Not really, no. I just prefer the way "real" Firefox auto-checks for updates every time you start it, and that it's newer than FF ESR.

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#9 2016-06-20 20:56:46

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

hhh wrote:

I just prefer the way "real" Firefox auto-checks for updates every time you start it

I remember I tried the Mozilla package once and I had to run it as root to let it update the binary yikes

Or do you run it from $HOME?


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#10 2016-06-21 03:47:03

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
hhh wrote:

I just prefer the way "real" Firefox auto-checks for updates every time you start it

I remember I tried the Mozilla package once and I had to run it as root to let it update the binary yikes

Or do you run it from $HOME?

I run it from $HOME. Never had to use root. I get it from http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/

Also prefer the delta updates.


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#11 2016-06-26 21:25:48

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

I just use the portable/static build and share the same app between stable and unstable, using a shared ~/bin folder (soft-linked to a folder on my data partition).

@hhh:  Regarding your suggestion for replacing the flashplugin from Debian...but that will only work for Firefox, right?  Whereas, the flashplugin from Debian works for all browsers.  I doubt very much that Flash will die sooner.  There are still too many sites that use it.  However, I've purged both the Debian flashplugin and the pepperflashplugin on both of my unstable instances without an issue so far.

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#12 2016-06-26 21:55:22

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

KrunchTime wrote:

... the flashplugin from Debian works for all browsers.

No, it's only for Netscape-based browsers, it doesn't work for Chrome or chromium...
https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Sup … _in_Debian

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#13 2016-06-26 22:23:31

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Thank you for the clarification.

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#14 2016-06-26 22:57:33

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

There is a jessie flash plugin for chromium/Chrome, but it is 64 bit only.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/pepp … in-nonfree

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#15 2016-07-03 20:04:36

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

hhh wrote:

And then hope Flash dies sooner rather than later.

Oh, yesss! It should be dead already, but it seems to be tough like a cockroach.

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#16 2016-07-04 01:38:28

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
hhh wrote:

I just prefer the way "real" Firefox auto-checks for updates every time you start it

I remember I tried the Mozilla package once and I had to run it as root to let it update the binary yikes

Or do you run it from $HOME?

If I use a downloaded Fx my preference is to install it in $HOME, but in fact there is an argument for installing it as root, then running it as user (of course). The apps' files can then only be edited by root, making it a little bit less vulnerable to intruders. The downside is you have to become root to upgrade it. Your choice.


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#17 2016-07-11 21:19:12

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
hhh wrote:

I just prefer the way "real" Firefox auto-checks for updates every time you start it

I remember I tried the Mozilla package once and I had to run it as root to let it update the binary yikes

Or do you run it from $HOME?

Sorry I missed this. No, I run it from /opt as described in the OP with no issues.

How about that, I just opened the About Firefox window to see what version I was up to and an update downloaded. I'm at 47.0 ATM, be right back after a browser restart.

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https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/4 … easenotes/
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cg … ed&limit=0

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I rest my case.

-edit-

johnraff wrote:

The downside is you have to become root to upgrade it. Your choice.

I missed this too. Obviously, I'm not getting this behavior. It just updated with a manual check, and it's updated a bunch of times since I moved the firefox download to /opt. This update would have been applied automatically the next time I started Firefox. Flash in firefox has warned me to update a bunch of times as well.

http://libre-software.net/how-to-instal … inux-mint/

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#18 2016-07-12 02:42:27

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

I just tested the OP by downloading FF v46.0.1 (i386)...

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/rel … 686/en-US/

I followed the steps and then removed firefox-esr, which also removes the dummy iceweasel package. sudo apt-get --purge autoremove gets rid of a few more libs.

Started my new FF, Help>About downloaded 47.0.1.

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#19 2016-07-12 02:47:52

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

And installed it after a restart...

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#20 2016-07-12 03:41:59

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

I'm still going to give FF-esr a chance... but if it's still killing my processor, I may try firefox proper to see if that improves anything...


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#21 2016-07-12 05:20:32

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Leave ff-esr, but test ditching the Debian flash plugins. I'm curious how libflashplayer.so by itself performs on your system.

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#22 2016-07-12 05:33:17

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

I've added links to FF-esr from Mozilla in the OP.

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#23 2016-07-13 04:30:07

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Firefox from the debian-mozilla repo is also at 47. No mess, no fuss.

john@bunsen1:~$ apt-cache policy firefox
firefox:
  Installed: 47.0.1-1~bpo80+1
  Candidate: 47.0.1-1~bpo80+1
  Version table:
 *** 47.0.1-1~bpo80+1 0
        500 http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports/firefox-release amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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#24 2016-07-14 06:09:56

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

Interesting discovery. If you go to the Adobe download site with Firefox you get the message that Linux is only supported up to ver. 11.*, but use chromium and you can download the 22.* pepperflash plugin, even on i386 systems. Yes, there seems to be an i386 pepperflash plugin! Google doesn't use it, but it's there. I just downloaded it on an i386 VirtualBox and installed the .so file manually, and chromium uses it (with some tweaking), and with browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash installed even Firefox uses it. On i386!

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#25 2016-07-14 07:24:49

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Re: Firefox instead of Iceweasel

johnraff wrote:

I just downloaded it on an i386 VirtualBox and installed the .so file manually, and chromium uses it (with some tweaking), and with browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash installed even Firefox uses it. On i386!

Grrrr. Walkthrough, please, I've been screwing with it for over half an hour to no avail. Some tweaking, very cryptic.

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