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#426 2020-08-12 12:26:23

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

ohnonot wrote:

Only on $PROPRIETARY_OS.
Not on Linux..

I was referring to those who sell bandwidth, at least here in Murica.

8bit

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#427 2020-08-12 12:51:54

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

eight.bit.al wrote:

^ Internet speeds - Mb   Ram - MB  smile
...

Well, when the Internet was discovered in Germany, large numbers circulated among the people, especially through the advertising industry.

I found this brilliant explanation in a forum:

kbit/s or kB/s

possible spellings:

'bps', 'b/s' = bits per second
'Bps', 'B/s' = bytes per second
'k', 'kb', 'kbs', 'kbps', 'kb/s' = kilobits per second
K', 'KB', 'KBs', 'KBps', 'KB/s' or 'k', 'kB', 'kBs', 'kBps', 'kB/s' = kilobytes per second
'm', 'mb', 'mbs', 'mbps', 'mb/s' = megabits per second
M', 'MB', 'MBs', 'MBps', 'MB/s' or 'm', 'mB', 'mBs', 'mBps', 'mB/s' = megabytes per second

or to put it another way:
bit is written in lower case for short (b)
Bytes are written in abbreviated capital letters (B)

...since a byte is known to consist of 8 bits, these are for the housewife to write down:

with DSL 6000 = 6000 kbit/s or 750 kB/s

They still write these 6000 today, because it is more impressive than 750, but they are among the last in the world, thanks to a government for which this is still "uncharted territory".

With the Conky, I got into the habit of writing downspeed and not downspeedf. Because this good guy himself makes the proper speed rating. This screenshot shows this very well.  wink
So it changes e.g. KiB to MiB and vice versa, with respect to the present speed.

yztS7F7t.png


Ops, I got a little off-topic...    lol

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#428 2020-08-12 14:51:21

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

unklar wrote:

or to put it another way:
bit is written in lower case for short (b)
Bytes are written in abbreviated capital letters (B)

There is also big confusion about the prefixes. There is both binary and decimal prefixes. Nowadays binary prefixes should be written kibi (Ki), But is still often written K, as the deciaml prefix...


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#429 2020-08-12 15:36:05

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

johnraff wrote:
hhh wrote:

I built the first Hydrogen live-build images of BL on an Atom processor, slow-ass 8G SSD netbook running Debian jessie with 1G of RAM, they built in a little over an hour on that box. RAM was often maxed during the build, but live-build never crashed on me.

That's very impressive.

That's weak hardware. big_smile Tim Gunn says "Make it work."

As I recall, I was quite angry during those early builds. Hmm.

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#430 2020-08-12 15:44:59

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Distrocrunch wrote:

I have to admit for someone not very intimate with the project, the release names are more difficult to appreciate than version numbers.

That is fabulous.

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#431 2020-08-12 15:48:32

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Aw hell yeah, my favorite redneck has checked us out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ0Bf-aJ_HE

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#432 2020-08-12 15:58:16

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Sorry to spam, this guy is hysterical. One highlight...

At about 2 minutes, talking about Helium/Jessie... "... I couldn't get the software I wanted to install because,  you know... Debian."

That is one for @ohNoNot and bunsen-quotes.

Another one... "There's a brown one... there's another brown one."

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#433 2020-08-12 19:14:06

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^ lmao


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#434 2020-08-12 19:49:04

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↑↑↑ agree wit cog

89990 files in Debian Buster ... and he says:

I couldn't get the software I wanted to install because,  you know... Debian.

RIIIIIIIIGHT!

Guess wanted wanted: zzz-the-non-file


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#435 2020-08-19 07:18:06

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The worst day of fishing is better than the best day at work.

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#436 2020-08-19 23:58:43

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Lot's of YouTube 'unboxing' vids are coming in, some well done and positive, some negative, and a lot of poorly done productions. Here's a good one, he's smart, linux savvy and he makes smart edits...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdAHQvwsm-o

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#437 2020-08-26 02:51:27

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Here's a quick one, he likes it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEl1FIOV7Y

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#438 2020-08-26 03:06:11

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We also get a lot of international support. Here's a review from Indonesia. He might hate it, I can't understand a word of it. Kudos, though, for talking through the entire installation...

Link two posts down, I posted the wrong one.

A lakita continue.

PUT THE MOUSE DOWM! I'm getting dizzy.

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#439 2020-08-26 05:17:24

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^Can you fix that Indonesian url?
(I might be able at least to tell if he likes it or not.)

Interesting how even quite thorough and competent reviewers seem to dive straight into the "applications" submenu and spend most of their time there without checking out the more interesting things below.


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#440 2020-08-26 08:37:49

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

johnraff wrote:

^Can you fix that Indonesian url?

I think it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8BGkF7_1o4


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#441 2020-08-27 07:56:22

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^Looks like it.
The guy speaks very quickly, but in the 0.1% I caught, I couldn't detect anything that sounded like criticism.
(In the comments he said it was a good choice for reviving an old machine.)

He certainly seems to know what he's doing, and takes the viewer right through the install process, step by step.
Interesting that instead of going through menu>applications he checks out the keyboard shortcuts shown in conky. cool


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#442 2020-08-28 21:59:45

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Good review of Lithium in Linux Format LXF267.

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#443 2020-08-28 22:02:03

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Sorry for the bad link, I was dizzy from all the mouse-cursor swirls. I edited my post to point to the good one.

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#444 2020-08-31 05:34:47

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Distrowatch review by Jesse Smith:
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20200831
Fair, if not over-enthusiastic.

Take-aways:

*) The new "applications" submenu is confusing a lot of first-time users into thinking that's the go-to place for everything, rather than a last port of call when what they want is nowhere else.

*) No-one seems to get the purpose of the bl-* aliases, and thinks eg that bl-media-player is just another way of referring to VLC.

distrowatch wrote:

(about bl-welcome) I think, perhaps, it would have been nice if the script had collected all my answers first and then performed its tasks at the end, that way I would not need to wait while new packages were fetched.

That's exactly what the Lithium version of bl-welcome is supposed to do! I don't understand this at all. sad

There is a menu entry called Mail Reader, though no e-mail client is installed.

This is coming from /usr/share/applications/exo-mail-reader.desktop whose menu entry should (?) be suppressed by 'OnlyShowIn=XFCE;' We need to think about this.


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#445 2020-08-31 06:45:01

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I'm slightly surprised that DW reviewed us so quickly, we only released a month ago. And as a feature story! It seems BL is starting to be taken seriously as an official Debian distrolet.

Jessie at DistroWatch wrote:

I'm not suggesting Bunsen is bad - it's doesn't really do poorly at anything it sets out to do. However, I do think there are other distributions which accomplish similar goals with friendlier interfaces. So what I'm suggesting is that Bunsen probably really appeals, almost exclusively, to people who like minimal window managers and who like Debian. It can be useful in other situations, but this seems to be the project's niche.

I think this is fair. Plus, he included some really nice screenshots. big_smile

This is an important review, and it's generally favorable and currently puts us at #56 in the DW hit-count list. Job well done.

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#446 2020-08-31 07:00:50

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Jessie at DistroWatch wrote:

.... So what I'm suggesting is that Bunsen probably really appeals, almost exclusively, to people who like minimal window managers and who like Debian.....

That's me! Looks like we hit the bullseye smile


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#447 2020-08-31 07:04:42

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damo wrote:
Jessie at DistroWatch wrote:

.... So what I'm suggesting is that Bunsen probably really appeals, almost exclusively, to people who like minimal window managers and who like Debian.....

That's me! Looks like we hit the bullseye smile

Me too, so I agree. I'm using Buster Cinnamon on my main laptop, so Jessie is on point there, but booting into my second laptop running Lithium with jackd to record my radio show is a pleasure. I love it.

-edit- I love this screenchot...

https://distrowatch.com/images/screensh … ttings.png

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#448 2020-09-02 18:13:17

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hhh wrote:

I'm slightly surprised that DW reviewed us so quickly, we only released a month ago. And as a feature story! It seems BL is starting to be taken seriously as an official Debian distrolet.

Jessie at DistroWatch wrote:

I'm not suggesting Bunsen is bad - it's doesn't really do poorly at anything it sets out to do. However, I do think there are other distributions which accomplish similar goals with friendlier interfaces. So what I'm suggesting is that Bunsen probably really appeals, almost exclusively, to people who like minimal window managers and who like Debian. It can be useful in other situations, but this seems to be the project's niche.

I think this is fair. Plus, he included some really nice screenshots. big_smile

This is an important review, and it's generally favorable and currently puts us at #56 in the DW hit-count list. Job well done.

I don't know if this put a bug in Jesse's ear, but I emailed him a couple of weeks ago and asked him to review Lithium. I forgot about it afterwards, and now boom.


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#449 2020-09-02 18:35:35

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^ I'm sure you weren't the only one, we have a lot of support out there. Also a lot of detractors, I think Crunchbang ++ is still bent about our treatment of them back in the day (I was not receptive). Some comment brigading by them over that review, maybe...

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20200831

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#450 2020-09-02 20:28:03

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It certainly seems to be a matter of expectations. Simply put, Bunsenlabs is awesome.  It does everything needed with minimal fuss or setup.

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