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#341 2019-01-09 02:29:18

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

^It has, by you: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 247#p76247
But it was quite a good review, and did raise some valid suggestions for improvement.
(The reviewer was clearly a fan of martix's bl-obmenu-generator, he mentined it 14 times!)


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#342 2019-01-09 02:49:40

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Well I guess people don't expect manual menu editing these days, in fact if you install openbox on top of xorg in buster,  without blocking recommends, you get a dynamic menu by default. Maybe not so fancy as that one, but at least fully functional.


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#343 2019-01-09 03:29:27

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

And we've now got the JGmenu developer on the team to help us integrate that one, which looks quite promising, as it can also emulate a normal OB menu. cool


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#344 2019-06-22 03:25:38

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

This is not a review, but it didn't seem to justify a thread all to itself, so I'm posting it here:

BunsenLabs has a bit of a profile in Debianland. Apart from our derivative status, BL's contribution of statistics to PopularityContest is greater than Devuan's, or Ubuntu's (latter extremely small actually). See "Statistics per distributions reporting to Debian":
https://popcon.debian.org/


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#345 2019-06-24 06:25:35

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

^ very interesting.
I've been wondering if "Derivative Status" is in any way official, if there's a concrete set of rules, how a distro gets on that list or how it would get kicked off again even if it's still based on debian...?

And why does Ubuntu contribute so little to popcon? Their graph should be sky high compared to all others.
Disabled by default in favour of their own software?

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#346 2019-06-24 06:32:26

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

There is a derivatives census page that anyone can add their distro to: https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census
But by the type of info requested it would soon become clear just how close it was to Debian. Still, the definition of "derivative" is quite loose and welcoming, shall we say. They don't seem into kicking distros out:
https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives
https://www.debian.org/derivatives/
"Debian welcomes and encourages organisations that want to develop new distributions based on Debian."


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#347 2019-06-24 09:08:41

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

ok, thanks for the extra info.
It seems too loose to call it "status"; but that's just me quibbling over words.
It's nice that they explicitely encourage derivates.

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#348 2019-06-25 04:35:58

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

We did actually get a mail from the guy who looks after the derivatives mailing list, inviting us to add a page to the derivatives wiki, but it is indeed pretty loose, and our "status" as a derivative is basically the fact that we're based on Debian.

I mainly wanted to draw attention to the fact that "BunsenLabs" was quite prominently visible on the official Debian popcon page.


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#349 2019-06-25 06:30:53

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

johnraff wrote:

I mainly wanted to draw attention to the fact that "BunsenLabs" was quite prominently visible on the official Debian popcon page.

AcademiX                  : 1          
BOSS                      : 1          
BunsenLabs                : 49         
Debian                    : 194096     
Debian(ubuntu)            : 1          
Deepin                    : 1          
Devuan                    : 37         
GauSSIan                  : 1          
Kali                      : 3          
PureOS                    : 4          
Raspbian                  : 111        
SparkyLinux               : 5          
ThirdLight                : 1          
Ubuntu                    : 12         
Univention                : 2          
Wazo                      : 980        
unknown                   : 7    

What is "Wazo"? Who is "BOSS"? (I kid, I have a search engine.) Seriously, what are these numbers?


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#350 2019-06-25 06:39:54

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

johnraff wrote:

I mainly wanted to draw attention to the fact that "BunsenLabs" was quite prominently visible on the official Debian popcon page.

So what does it mean? Many users, and most of them don't disable it?
And why has Ubuntu so few? Surely it's more popular than BL...

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#351 2019-06-25 09:33:22

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

ohnonot wrote:
johnraff wrote:

I mainly wanted to draw attention to the fact that "BunsenLabs" was quite prominently visible on the official Debian popcon page.

So what does it mean?

That "BunsenLabs" is quite prominently visible on the official Debian popcon page. People who go there might notice it. That's all.


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#352 2019-08-27 00:34:34

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Has this one been posted? It's quite fair...

https://cubiclenate.com/2018/12/22/buns … suse-user/

I mean, he loved it, but it didn't do some things the actual DEs do. Personally, I'm loving Lithium because it does NOT do the things that Plasma and GNOME do.


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#353 2019-08-27 02:51:00

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Nice Review.  He is fair about what he doesn't like but if it gets his old machine working ...   big_smile

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#354 2019-08-27 03:55:42

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

This was interesting:

I was initially very happy to see that I could skip the Live version and go right into the Installation. Not having that option is really quite annoying.

...considering how often we get requests to put the installer in the live session.


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#355 2019-08-27 04:02:24

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Is it not in both?  I never noticed as I always used the installer from the boot menu of the USB


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#356 2019-08-27 05:07:10

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

^No, there's never been an install option in the live session. (BL's installer is pretty much the Debian installer, with a few small tweaks.)


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#357 2019-08-27 10:38:47

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Ubu, Xubu, #! to BL I never installed any other way so I really don't know.  I think in all that time I have only ever run the "Live session" once on each of them.


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#358 2019-08-27 15:45:50

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Ok! I'm going share my view about BL.
But, for context, first two things to say:
1° I know little english and my grammar sucks.
2° For life reasons I always worked with actually obsolete computers, and I love to work with that ; it's always a challenge.
BL is perfect, I love it! In my equipment there's no (not a lot)  RAM, no (not a lot) processor power, etc.
No dynamic menus and fancy effects are welcome, still BL has a polish finish, so beautiful, In my opinion, exquisite.
I'm not a power user, no programmer, no in IT department, but I love manual configuration though text files. It's clear. Yeah, UI is always welcome, but not in my case.
I'm very glad and thankful for this distro; it's fits to all my needs.
Thanks to all people that makes this possible.

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#359 2019-08-27 16:23:19

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Let me fix that for you:

1° I know little english but my grammar is 100% readable

Hola rers, puedes escribir en castellano y luego usar un traductor para obtener inglés.

Hello rers, you can write in Castellano and later use a translator to get English.

Nice review ... Gracias.


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#360 2019-08-29 05:53:06

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Re: BunsenLabs Reviews

Sector11 wrote:

Hello rers, you can write in Castellano and later use a translator to get English.

All due respect, but I advise against this:
rers' English is perfectly understandable. An online translator's English is not always understandable.
Nuances shift <= this is very important. So often what we really want to say is between the lines and has to be extracted carefully. You have to read an online-translated text twice to understand OP's intentions - if they haven't been mangled by the translating software.
A self-written text has character. We all write English in different ways according to our native languages. That is not only charming, but also useful = carries information.
Also, you constantly improve your English by writing English.

Nevertheless, thanks for the link. Will test some time.

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