[FINISHED] BunsenLabs Lithium 32 bit Release Candidate iso available

rbh · 2020-09-08 17:15:28

johnraff wrote:

but the BunsenLabs Lithium Netinstall script has now been updated and seems to be working OK.

Ah, great! Many thanks!

dolly · 2020-09-09 05:46:20

Awesome, thanks!

yoda · 2020-09-09 18:10:31

One of my B Laptop is a slow 8 GB, 32 GB SSD HP Laptop. Presently running BL Lithium 64 bits.

I suppose, this 32 bits version would be faster on slow hardware ?

The only think stopping me from making the move to get more speed, is the Apps I have that run on 64 bits... Am I missing something / AM I right, saying some Apps won't work anymore with the 32 bits version of BL ?

johnraff · 2020-09-10 01:16:51

@yoda, my understanding is the biggest issue on old computers with 64bit is the RAM usage. With 8GB (same as my daily machine) I don't think you'll notice much of a speed gain in switching to 32 bit. And yes, it's possible some apps might not have 32bit versions.

hhh · 2020-09-10 01:56:06

For what it's worth...

https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mi … hitectures

johnraff · 2020-09-10 02:16:26

Although, to get any speed improvement, wouldn't a reinstall of a 32bit system be better than migrating?

But maybe there are some tweaks that can be done on yoda's current 64bit system to improve speed?

grubernd · 2020-09-10 11:09:32

yoda wrote:

One of my B Laptop is a slow 8 GB, 32 GB SSD HP Laptop. Presently running BL Lithium 64 bits.
I suppose, this 32 bits version would be faster on slow hardware ?

I don't think there is a noticeable [1] difference between 32bit and 64bit OS in term of speed. At least I have never ran into one on my various systems. My experience is you are either CPU or I/O limited, architecture plays a minor role - if at all.

I do some heavy number-crunching and I/O-demanding batch jobs (RAW image conversions etc) and they scale predictably from a 64bit i7-4990 with 16GB RAM down to a 32bit Atom with 2GB RAM just by looking at the CPU-benchmark and system I/O. And [BL Li] in itself feels pretty much the same on both machines, when accounting for the general difference of the hardware.

[1] anything 20% faster or up is usually required to be noticed by an end-user

truscellino · 2020-09-11 18:14:29

All comparative tests I have seen show that 64 bits version of software run faster than 32 bits. We discussed this at the beginning of this very thread (Post 15 etc.).

The only cases where 32 bits system is interesting is on machines with little RAM (<2Gb) because 32 bits software uses much less RAM, so less risk to start swapping heavily which can become a real bottleneck. With 8Gb I would go for 64 bits without hesitation...

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DeepDayze · 2020-09-11 19:33:36

truscellino wrote:

The only cases where 32 bits system is interesting is on machines with little RAM (<2Gb) because 32 bits software uses much less RAM, so less risk to start swapping heavily which can become a real bottleneck. With 8Gb I would go for 64 bits without hesitation...

That makes sense even on a 64bit machine where the RAM is not upgradable and is usually at 2-4GB on the board. Most of the early 64 bit netbooks and cheap laptops fall into this category.

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grubernd · 2020-09-11 20:29:23

truscellino wrote:

The only cases where 32 bits system is interesting is on machines with little RAM (<2Gb) because 32 bits software uses much less RAM, so less risk to start swapping heavily which can become a real bottleneck.

That is quite true, but..

..if someone really needs to run RAM-heavy software, then they should do themselves and their electrical bill a favour and get a modern machine with more RAM. Even a lowly Celeron Mobile CPU will be better than anything from the pre-64bit era.

And - please bear with my highly opiniated view here - if someone can't afford to upgrade their machine they do not want to run RAM-heavy software anyway.

Not today, where options are readily available and rather cheap - both in initial investment and running costs.

hhh · 2020-09-11 22:03:57

^ Well, how much RAM are you talking? I'd argue that on BL or any Debian distro , or any distro, 2 or 3G should be plenty, unless your compiling or other resource-intensive programming, maybe running live-build, or doing heavy audio/video/graphics/animation stuff, or gaming of course. You can run Plasma or GNOME easily with 3G ram. A basic user with 2 or 3 or 4G RAM is... fine? Comfortable? Stable? Definitely stable.

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