Diodon or Clipit?

johnraff · 2020-05-22 01:09:05

Naik wrote:

busenlabs lithium just told me (via popup after login) that clipit is deprecated and was replaced by diodon...

Sorry, this is not our doing. We haven't touched clipit in any way - I've no idea where that popup is coming from.

johnraff · 2020-05-22 01:13:40

I've been using xfce4-clipman here for a while now with no problems.

ohnonot · 2020-05-22 06:32:49

^ does it work without the xfce4-panel?

BTW, I think the aggravation about clipit and/or parcellite being "deprecated" is improper. Those aren't net-facing applications in need of constant auditing/updating (just like openbox itself).
All clipboard managers have a very specific vulnerability if you store passwords in them AND your computer is open to other people, but I don't think an app update can deal with it because it is inherent to what the app does. Nevertheless this problem has been partly tackled with regular expressions for both clipit and parcellite; not very useful for passwords, but beyond that it would require very complex extra code to filter those out.

johnraff · 2020-05-22 06:50:02

I was getting a little flakiness with Ctrl+x cuttings being dropped sometimes, and it seems to have stopped since I switched from clipit to xfce4-clipman. And, no, it doesn't require xfce4-panel, just a systray.

Naik · 2020-05-22 22:59:54

johnraff wrote:

Naik wrote:
busenlabs lithium just told me (via popup after login) that clipit is deprecated and was replaced by diodon...
Sorry, this is not our doing. We haven't touched clipit in any way - I've no idea where that popup is coming from.

Sorry for getting noisy here! I found out this happened when I integrated the Kali-linux repository for the sake of kali-meta-peckages.
This was a bad idea anyways.. so never mind.

Anyways I would vote for staying with clipit as I happen to be here once since diodon seems not store the history after reboot or did I do something wrong?
naik --greetz

johnraff · 2020-05-23 00:33:22

^I haven't looked on diodon, but most clipboard managers seem to offer the choice of deleting the history on shutdown, or not. I'd guess the default would be delete, for privacy reasons.

rbh · 2020-05-23 17:44:53

Today I updated an Debian 11 (Testing - Bullsey) LXDE box.
I got the message "ClipIt has been deprecated and is no longer supported.".

I do not like neither diodon nor xfce4-clipman. They draw more memmory, not possible to search.
There i many more cplimanagers...

johnraff · 2020-05-23 22:45:55

Yes, it looks indeed as if clipit is deprecated on Debian Bullseye (ie for BL Beryllium) and a little notification script has been added (changelog): https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/ … _changelog
I think the last line in the top entry "Diodon will be removed from Debian after Bullseye is released." is a typo for "Clipit will...".

@rbh if you find a nice simple clipboard manager please post!

hhh · 2020-05-24 00:42:49

You guys will have to clue me in, because one of the first things I do with a BL install is remove ClipIt.

What is the advantage of a clipboard manager over Linux's native copy/paste actions?

deleted0 · 2020-05-24 02:16:34

^ It's copy/paste with history. Usually selectable, save the last 5, or 10, or however many copy actions to choose from.

8bit

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ohnonot · 2020-05-24 09:07:15

^ add to that a hotkey that pops up the history, select entry with Up/Dn & Return.
Also useful to synchronise primary selection and clipboard.
One of those "can't live without it" utilities.

johnraff · 2020-05-27 05:47:08

^^^ ^^ ^ The first thing that hit me with Linux Copy/Paste was that if you make a selection, do Ctrl+C, then close the window the selection was in, it's gone! The copy'd text doesn't go into a cache anywhere, it's just a reference.

A clipboard manager fixes that.
History is useful if you want to collect quotes out of a long text, for example.
I don't use the other nifty functions a clipboard manager usually offers, but agree it's indispensible.

ohnonot · 2020-05-28 05:55:52

johnraff wrote:

The first thing that hit me with Linux Copy/Paste was that if you make a selection, do Ctrl+C, then close the window the selection was in, it's gone!

That also.
BTW, last time I used a Windwos machine this happened to me also.

johnraff · 2020-05-28 08:49:03

^I don't think it happened that way in W98...

rbh · 2020-12-19 12:12:33

Naik wrote:

johnraff wrote:
Naik wrote:
busenlabs lithium just told me (via popup after login) that clipit is deprecated and was replaced by diodon...
Sorry, this is not our doing. We haven't touched clipit in any way - I've no idea where that popup is coming from.
I found out this happened when I integrated the Kali-linux repository for the sake of kali-meta-peckages.
This was a bad idea anyways.. so never mind.

Yesterdy I migrated an BL VM to Bullsey, got thap poppup message about clipit replaced by diodon. Packages.debian.org says now about clipit in bullseye and sid:

(misc): lightweight GTK+ clipboard manager (deprecated)

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Naik · 2020-12-20 20:58:14

^ Oh poor boy clipit! So we will loose you for sure?

Naik --greetz

vasa1 · 2020-12-25 12:28:54

What about qlipper?

$ apt show 2>/dev/null qlipper
Package: qlipper
Version: 1:5.1.2-1
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Maintainer: LXQt Packaging Team <pkg-lxqt-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 402 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libqt5core5a (>= 5.11.0~rc1), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.2.0), libqt5network5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.6.0~beta), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libx11-6
Breaks: lxqt-common (<< 0.12.0)
Replaces: lxqt-common (<< 0.12.0)
Homepage: https://github.com/pvanek/qlipper
Tag: uitoolkit::qt
Download-Size: 120 kB
APT-Sources: https://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
Description: Lightweight and cross-platform clipboard history applet
 A Lightweight and cross-platform clipboard history applet. It
 provides the following features:
 .
  - saves clipboard history entries and restores them
  - lightweight
  - systray docking app
  - few requirements
  - can be used in GNOME and Windows (and more)

$

sleekmason · 2020-12-25 15:08:26

Qlipper looks interesting, but it is qt yes? No dark background?

Anyhow, we are not really losing anything as Diodon is a direct replacement from my understanding.

ohnonot · 2020-12-25 22:50:24

sleekmason wrote:

Diodon is a direct replacement from my understanding.

I'm not so sure.
I just tried to install it on ArchLinux and caught a few snags:

It lives on launchpad and is generally Ubuntu/GNOME-centric. Something about app indicator vs. system tray...?
It pulls in a busload of dependencies, amongst which the much hated zeitgeist user activity logger
It uses that newfangled meson build system and I quickly gave up on trying to reconfigure it to reduce dependencies. OK, that one is entriely my own fault.

Anyhow, it might look like clipit, but it's certainly more demanding.
FWIW, I now use parcellite. That really seems to be almost 1:1 with clipit.

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DeepDayze · 2020-12-25 23:06:36

ohnonot wrote:

sleekmason wrote:
Diodon is a direct replacement from my understanding.
I'm not so sure.
I just tried to install it on ArchLinux and caught a few snags:
It lives on launchpad and is generally Ubuntu/GNOME-centric. Something about app indicator vs. system tray...?
It pulls in a busload of dependencies, amongst which the much hated zeitgeist user activity logger
It uses that newfangled meson build system and I quickly gave up on trying to reconfigure it to reduce dependencies. OK, that one is entriely my own fault.
Anyhow, it might look like clipit, but it's certainly more demanding.
FWIW, I now use parcellite. That really seems to be almost 1:1 with clipit.

Parcellite I remember using as well in the past on AntiX distro, perhaps if it's still being maintained I can go check that out again.

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