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#1 2020-04-01 08:38:21

fvirgola80
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BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

Goodmorning everyone,
I would like to update the version of my BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen), there is also Windows 10 on my disk.
Can I have problems after the update?
Is there a procedure for updating BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen)?
Will BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) always be up to date or do you recommend upgrading to version 10?


This is the version of my operating system

fvirgola80@fringe:~$ lsb_release -d
Description:	BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen)
fvirgola80@fringe:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	BunsenLabs
Description:	BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen)
Release:	8.9
Codename:	bunsen-hydrogen
fvirgola80@fringe:~$ cat /etc/os-release
ANSI_COLOR="0;34"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://github.com/BunsenLabs"
HOME_URL="https://bunsenlabs.org"
ID=bunsenlabs
ID_LIKE="debian"
NAME="BunsenLabs GNU/Linux"
PRETTY_NAME="BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen)"
SUPPORT_URL="https://forums.bunsenlabs.org"
VERSION="8.9 (Hydrogen)"
VERSION_ID="8.9"


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#2 2020-04-01 21:37:11

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

fvirgola80 wrote:

I would like to update the version of my BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen), there is also Windows 10 on my disk.
Can I have problems after the update?

That is realy more than high time...
I can not imagine any troubles. But, just to be safe, Download the Lithium iso and run a live session and see if there is any problem with drivers for your hardware.

Is there a procedure for updating BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen)?
Will BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) always be up to date or do you recommend upgrading to version 10?

Hydrogen is outdated. Current stable BL version is Helium.
When upgrading, you can not go directley from jessie to buster. Take one version at time. same with Bunsenlabs.

With current sources list, you run

$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt upgrade

Change sources list to Helim/Stretch. Run

$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt upgrade
$ sudo apt dist-upgrade

Change sources to lithium/buster and repeat update/upgrade/dist-upgrade.

Then, after som years, you have to change sources again and repeat upgrading....

But I recomend you to backup your data and do a new clean install.

Read this thread: Lithium test iso available


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#3 2020-04-01 22:06:08

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

As Debian Jessie on which Hydrogen is based is EOL'd it is highly recommended to upgrade as there's basically no new updates. As @rbh has said it is not advisable to go  directly to Buster which the upcoming Lithium release is based on. Upgrade to StretchHelium then if no issues then  take a look at Lithium and download the ISO and take it for a spin smile


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#4 2020-04-02 08:06:56

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

Thanks to both now I try to understand how to reconstruct the situation ... wink  wink


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#5 2020-04-02 08:41:37

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

fvirgola80 wrote:

now I try to understand how to reconstruct the situation ... wink  wink

Lithium beta is quite mature, soon going official.

Upgrading from Hydrogen/Jessie, to Helium/Stretch, will take considerable time. Same with next step to Lithium.Some more or less obsolete packages will not be removed and replaced with better alternatives. (You have to do the last step very soon, just as well do it now...)

On the other hand, if you do clean install, you will loose soma packages. I use Dosemu. On migrated workstation i can continue use it. On new installation, I have to use Dosbox instead.
If you have a very specialised system, and are a skilled Linux user and have the time, test upgrade. Evaluate.

If you are a causual user undoubtedly you are better off with clean install.
Before install, rename $HOME, after install reuse user-settings you prefer over BL standard.

Last edited by rbh (2020-04-02 17:47:12)


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#6 2020-04-02 14:27:20

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

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#7 2020-04-03 07:06:05

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

I would like to try to update my hydrogen 8.9 to debian 9 we have a repsody procedure that does this.
Once this is done I would then move on to 10 then carry out the stepwise installations
Is there anyone who can help me?

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#8 2020-04-03 14:00:47

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

In post #2 above, i wrote the generell procedure.

Under "News & Announcements" you have the thread: BunsenLabs Debian Repository. Read that and https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repositories.html.

If you get error on apt-key, import apt-key for the repository.


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#9 2020-04-04 11:08:04

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

After changing vicissitudes and indecisions, I managed to update Bunsenlabs 8.9 (Hydorgen) to version 9.8 (Helium) .. Can you tell me that it is the latest version?

The steps I have are on this Damo link

Upgrade 8..9 (Hydogen) to Helium 9.8


Although I have two operating systems Linux and Windows 10 everything went smoothly, even updated the starting grub of the pc ...
I thank you all

p.s version 9.8 (helium) can you confirm that it is the last of bunsenlas?

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#10 2020-04-04 14:22:09

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

helium main is the source for Helium, so yes it is the latest BL Helium. Updates are still possible of course, as are Debian updates.

You should still occasionally do update/upgrade/dist-upgrade.


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#11 2020-04-04 14:25:14

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

fvirgola80 wrote:

p.s version 9.8 (helium) can you confirm that it is the last of bunsenlas?

As stated before in the thread, Lithium dev is stable, soon official stable version.
If you want debian 10, you have to upgrade to Lithium/Buster


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#12 2020-04-04 15:09:55

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

damo wrote:

helium main is the source for Helium, so yes it is the latest BL Helium. Updates are still possible of course, as are Debian updates.

You should still occasionally do update/upgrade/dist-upgrade.



Thanks a lot Damo


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#13 2020-04-04 15:11:30

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

rbh wrote:
fvirgola80 wrote:

p.s version 9.8 (helium) can you confirm that it is the last of bunsenlas?

As stated before in the thread, Lithium dev is stable, soon official stable version.
If you want debian 10, you have to upgrade to Lithium/Buster


fvirgola80@fringe:~$ lsb_release -d
Description:    BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 9.8 (Helium)
fvirgola80@fringe:~$ cat /etc/os-release
ANSI_COLOR="0;34"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewforum.php?id=14"
HOME_URL="https://www.bunsenlabs.org"
ID="bunsenlabs"
ID_LIKE="debian"
NAME="BunsenLabs GNU/Linux"
PRETTY_NAME="BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 9.8 (Helium)"
SUPPORT_URL="https://forums.bunsenlabs.org"
VERSION="9.8 (Helium)"
VERSION_ID="9.8"

This is the version I currently have
it is the last of the bunsenlabs


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#14 2020-04-04 17:41:44

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

Latest Bunsenlab version is Lithium dev.

rbh@wassus:~$  lsb_release -d
Description:	BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 10.0 (Lithium)

As stated above, the version is mature. It will soon take Heliums place as Bunsenlabs stable.

If you want to "update to the Debian 10 version", as the subject of your post says, you have to upgrade to Lithium/Buster.
Read "Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up"

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#15 2020-04-04 21:18:51

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

fvirgola80 wrote:

...
This is the version I currently have
it is the last of the bunsenlabs

It is the latest Bunsenlabs Helium (Debian 9 Stretch).

The latest Bunsenlabs is Lithium (Debian 10 Buster), as everyone keeps telling you hmm


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#16 2020-04-05 08:44:39

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

Now I understand, sorry for ignorance.
oh then rephrase the question ..
There are repsody to be replaced in the paths
- /etc/apt/sources.list
-/etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list
-/etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen-stretch-backports.list
- /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stretch-backports.list,

to be able to switch from 9.8 (helium) to version 10 (buster)? how did I go from 8.9 to 9.8?


what i read in the forum laa version 10 (buster) is in the experimental phase right?
Do I have to wait for the official repsody or am I wrong?
thanks a lot

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#17 2020-04-05 11:36:33

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

fvirgola80 wrote:

Now I understand, sorry for ignorance.

It is good if you read answers...

There are repsody to be replaced in the paths
- /etc/apt/sources.list
-/etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list
-/etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen-stretch-backports.list
- /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stretch-backports.list,

to be able to switch from 9.8 (helium) to version 10 (buster)?

If you want to use Bunsenlabs Linux, you have to edit sources for both Debian and Bunsenlabs. You do not need to use list in ../sources.list.d/. I prefer to only use /etc/apt/sources.list.

If you read "Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up" and https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repositories.html, You will get adviced well.
you will se and I think I mentioned it earlier; There is nob backport sources for Bunsenlab Lithium. There is no backported binaries specific for Bunsenlab Lithium (not yet).

My /etc/apt/sources.list For Buster/Lithium is:

## DEBIAN 10 Buster
deb http://server/ftp.acc.umu.se/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
deb http://server/ftp.acc.umu.se/debian/ buster-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://server/ftp.acc.umu.se/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://server/ftp.acc.umu.se/debian/ buster-proposed-updates main contrib non-free

# Debian Security stretch
deb http://server/security.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main contrib non-free

# Bunsenlabs Linux
# apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 8FFD2CE993071671
deb http://server/mirror/kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian lithium main

I Mirror Debian and Bunsenlab on my lan server. You should use adresses that suites you.

how did I go from 8.9 to 9.8?

You do not remember? Read this thread again and the post: Upgrade 8..9 (Hydogen) to Helium 9.8

what i read in the forum laa version 10 (buster) is in the experimental phase right?

It was a year ago. As stated before, Lithium is now quite mature.

Do I have to wait for the official repsody or am I wrong?

If you want to use Debian 10, you must upgrade to Lithium. You are free to choose. Lithium dev is working very well. Helium/Stetch, works ok. But, Lithium has some new good enhancements.

Last edited by rbh (2020-04-05 19:35:55)


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#18 2020-04-05 14:10:39

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Re: BunsenLabs GNU / Linux 8.9 (Hydrogen) update to the Debian 10 version

Thanks a lot for the advice now I try now I had a little confusion myself ..
Thanks again to work completed I will let you know

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