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#51 2016-01-17 23:58:21

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ohnonot wrote:

i made a gtk theme.

TempuraFlat

i started with bunsen blackish, changed the colors (took them from an old gtk theme) and started tweaking murrine settings until i got it really, really flat.

here it is for gtk2:
http://iki.fi/dt/stuff/TempuraFlat.png
the openbox theme needs a little improvement.

anyhow, please help me with gtk3!
i have no gtk3 on my system. maybe i will, in a few weeks when i don't have so much studying to do, but right now i just changed the colors in gtk.css but haven't tested anything.
also you could test some of the apps for gtk2.
yes, it's a WIP.

That is really, really nice. Thank you.
Gonna look good with a lot of my stuff.

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#52 2016-01-18 02:26:03

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I'll take a look at this now, the scrot looks awesome.

Thank you for working on this!

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#53 2016-01-19 08:36:29

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ohnonot wrote:

i made a gtk theme.
TempuraFlat
anyhow, please help me with gtk3!
i have no gtk3 on my system.

silly me, i can use my bunsen virtual machine for that!
thunar looks ok, and so do all the gtk3 apps i tried! they still have all the gradients in them, but the colors are good enough.
i will look into it (removing the gradients) later.


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#54 2016-01-19 21:24:12

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ohnonot  great job! I'm using your theme and it's awesome, thanks for sharing .

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#55 2016-01-24 00:25:44

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i have updated it a lot.
went through the gtk3 settings to remove gradients and rounded borders.
removed some stuff that does not go well with this theme (pixmaps mostly).
updated the openbox theme a little.
made a tint2 theme!

https://github.com/ohnonot/TempuraFlat

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#56 2016-01-24 00:32:52

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Nice work. Kudos smile


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#57 2016-01-24 09:12:08

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thanks damo.
actually the gtk3 still needs some love.
i remember there used to be a tool to start gtk apps with and "debug" them, it was a little like the web developer tools, you could fin d out what GtkNames certain elements have.
i tried to find it yesterday but couldn't.
anybody know what i'm talking about, or can give suggestions how i can troubleshoot gtk themes?


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#58 2016-01-24 10:48:38

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#59 2016-01-24 12:04:24

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Thanks HoaS, but this is not what i'm looking for.
i really need to be able to specify elements:

i remember there used to be a tool to start gtk apps with and "debug" them, it was a little like the web developer tools, you could find out what GtkNames certain elements have.

this was a while ago, and i think the app was somewhat experimental and/or unmaintained, but i'm 100% sure it exists.
or other tips - a "point and click to get information" solution a la web developer tools would be perfect.

if you look at the gtk3 CSS for TempuraFlat or one of the bunsen themes you will understand: they're huge, compared to gtk2...

and since i removed all gradients (only that took an hour or so), some elements have become indistiguishable from their backgrounds.
maybe hhh can say something about this?

edit:
found it! it's called gtkparasite. now to compile it for bunsenlabs...

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#60 2016-01-28 02:22:52

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#61 2016-01-29 00:23:46

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My old laptop died a week ago, my new laptop is only a few days away big_smile
Meanwhile, here is my latest experiment, a light gtk2/3 openbox theme.
A modified version of color ui and flatts themes.


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#62 2016-01-29 00:26:29

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^Thanks for the update and themes, fog! New toy coming, cool. cool

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#63 2016-01-30 12:22:07

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ohnonot wrote:

i remember there used to be a tool to start gtk apps with and "debug" them, it was a little like the web developer tools, you could find out what GtkNames certain elements have.

this was a while ago, and i think the app was somewhat experimental and/or unmaintained, but i'm 100% sure it exists.
or other tips - a "point and click to get information" solution a la web developer tools would be perfect.

if you look at the gtk3 CSS for TempuraFlat or one of the bunsen themes you will understand: they're huge, compared to gtk2...

and since i removed all gradients (only that took an hour or so), some elements have become indistiguishable from their backgrounds.
maybe hhh can say something about this?

edit:
found it! it's called gtkparasite. now to compile it for bunsenlabs...

gtkparasite works, and it's a nice tool, but it is geared towards app development, not theme debugging.

@hhh, how did you do it? how do you develop/troubleshoot/debug a gtk2/3 theme?
how does anyone?


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#64 2016-01-30 12:39:31

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^ GtkParasite was merged into Gtk+ 3 and is now called GtkInspector. So if you're debugging Gtk+ 3 themes, you don't need GtkParasite smile


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#65 2016-01-30 23:56:21

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@hhh was sad that the Paper icon theme was now grey, but it is quite easy to change it back to the original sandy-brown folder colours again wink

Scripts, Tutorials & Tips» Paper icon theme - HowTo change to any colour you like


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#66 2016-01-31 08:10:31

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ohnonot wrote:

@hhh, how did you do it? how do you develop/troubleshoot/debug a gtk2/3 theme?
how does anyone?

Oh gawd, it's flipping awful. Even after, what, four years of doing it? Every new theme I have to open the files in leafpad and Ctrl-F "button", for example, and go through every result and change five of them before I find it and that still doesn't get the dialog buttons and gtk3 just sucks.

I am still thrilled that you can change a few hex-codes at the top of any of the Bunsen gtkrc and gtk-main.css files, done. Best work I've ever done next to building the Bunsen ISOs and playing the opening of Ravens Stadium as 3rd chair violist (substitute, 2 years and then they held auditions and hired someone else), Baltimore Symphony.

Stevie Wonder was the front-man. This is an awesome story. Sound check, the orchestra is assembled behind an electric-blue grand piano and Stevie's assistant walks him up to it, all the people are talking and warming up and whatever. My eyes are riveted to a fairly-overweight-blind-as-hell gaaddamn legend, 15 feet away from me. She sits him down, he pulls the bench up. He hits 3 Cs, mid high low, to find out where he is on the keyboard.

John Coltrane's "Giant Steps" is generally regarded as the hardest jazz standard out there, it's a chord change every measure and most measures are 2 changes or more. It's fast. I don't know how many beats-per-minute, you can do the math...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30FTr6G53VU

So, Stevie, bink bink bink with the Cs... -super. flipping. fast.- ba ba ba ba buh, ba bah buh, ba buh bah, boo bu bwaa! 160bpm? 3 rounds soloing over it, great solo,every note perfect, the tempo never dropped. Just breakneck, blisteringly fast. Staggering, we're watching it and hearing it, jaws ON THE FLOOR. Well, we... the concertmaster (1st chair violin, first section), me and a double base player. The other 80 or so musicians were oblivious to the fact that they were sharing the stage with the best musician on the planet.

I played with Stevie Wonder and didn't get a picture. #firstworldproblems

-edit- Just thinking about that, he hadn't played a bloody note yet, and his "warm up" at that moment was 3 runs of Giant Steps at way over 144bpm. And he's blind.

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#67 2016-01-31 08:49:47

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The football palace was illuminated with banks of multicolored lights, spotlight beams and lasers, and during the musical performances, large aluminum Ravens with red laser-light eyes and green smoke pouring from their talons were lowered from the stadium.

lol, I completely missed that. I also didn't know that I almost worked with Arethra.

And then we did West Side? Gaad, I don't remember that. What, Maria? Sharks v Jets (snap snap snap)? That must have been a letdown, good call on that a-hole Wagner (with fireworks) after that. Napalm smells like Victory.

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#68 2016-01-31 11:13:43

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^ & ^^: that was illuminating.
basically the same technique i am using!  glasses  devil

but yeah, it's not the first time i heard that gtk theme design is harder and more mysterious than coltrane.


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#69 2016-02-02 04:35:34

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Hi, in your github page you mention the "mist engine for giving nice check boxes". Is that only for gtk2?

According to a QnA from 2011, there were only three gtk3 engines: Adwaita, Unico, and Solidity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57510/wh … -available

Now that the next version of Firefox (v45) will use gtk3 as default when possible, I've got to get to grips with gtk3 hence my question.

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#70 2016-02-02 18:31:20

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vasa1 wrote:

Hi, in your github page you mention the "mist engine for giving nice check boxes". Is that only for gtk2?

in this case, yes.
i think the gtk3 part of the theme does not use any particular engine; at least the word "engine" is not found in any of the config files.


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#71 2016-02-02 19:17:15

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Hi, I'm looking for an Icon Pack for OB, but only with the colors black, white and gray. I'm already looking for a long time on, but find nothing.


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#72 2016-02-02 19:23:08

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searchone wrote:

Hi, I'm looking for an Icon Pack for OB, but only with the colors black, white and gray. I'm already looking for a long time on, but find nothing.

Paper icon theme?
Get the icons from github: snwh/paper-icon-theme
(zipfile direct download link)

You can change them to any colour you want using the How To.

There is also the main menu link:   Menu -> Help -> Theme Resources

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#73 2016-02-02 21:24:15

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Hi BLenderer,
thanks for your quick response. Morning I look at the times!


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#74 2016-02-02 21:36:15

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No problem, Member tongue


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#75 2016-02-03 04:32:02

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ohnonot wrote:
vasa1 wrote:

Hi, in your github page you mention the "mist engine for giving nice check boxes". Is that only for gtk2?

in this case, yes.
i think the gtk3 part of the theme does not use any particular engine; at least the word "engine" is not found in any of the config files.

Thanks for responding smile

If you have time, please visit https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1218

I'm using totally non-scientific methods to simplify gtk3 check boxes.


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