Video editing (Pitivi OpenShot Flowblade Kdenlive)

berniz95 · 2017-10-25 18:32:43

Hi,
I've installed Pitivi successfully on my BL install, but I get a "segmentation fault" at run time after two warnings :

Missing soft dependency:
- pycanberra not found on the system
    -> active les notifications sonores lorsque le rendu est terminé
Missing soft dependency:
- GnomeDesktop not found on the system
    -> file thumbnails provided by GNOME's thumbnailers

and also four Clutter-WARNINGs.
What should I try next ? I can't find Pycanberra on the distro. Hope I don't have to install the whole Gnome Desktop.
Pitivi seemed a good solution for video editing, after trying OpenShot for a while (which does not display sound streams contents).

Last edited by berniz95 (2017-10-28 12:36:07)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-10-25 18:50:06

berniz95 wrote:

I've installed Pitivi successfully on my BL install

How exactly did you do this?

Please post the exact command(s) used.

Can we also see the output of:

apt-cache policy

berniz95 · 2017-10-25 19:01:29

I used Synaptic for that. The repositories are http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/ (main), http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ (contrib non-free main), and http://security.debian.org/ (non-free contrib main).

As for the second question :

$ apt-cache policy
Fichiers du paquet :
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/ bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages
     release o=bunsenlabs,n=bunsen-hydrogen,l=bunsenlabs,c=main
     origin pkg.bunsenlabs.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/main Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/non-free i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=oldstable-updates,n=jessie-updates,l=Debian,c=non-free
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/contrib i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=oldstable-updates,n=jessie-updates,l=Debian,c=contrib
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/main i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=oldstable-updates,n=jessie-updates,l=Debian,c=main
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=8,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
     origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/contrib i386 Packages
     release v=8,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
     origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main i386 Packages
     release v=8,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=main
     origin security.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Translation-fr
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/contrib i386 Packages
     release v=8.9,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=contrib
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=8.9,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=non-free
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages
     release v=8.9,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=main
     origin httpredir.debian.org
Paquets épinglés :

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-10-25 19:09:46

berniz95 wrote:

I get a "segmentation fault" at run time after two warnings

Please try running pitivi from a terminal and then after it crashes post any errors here in full, thanks.

It may be worth trying the RAM tester that we have on our ISO image and perhaps SMARTCTL as well (for your hard drive), it is very unusual for a Debian oldstable package to fail catastrophically.

berniz95 · 2017-10-25 19:13:41

Voilà :

$ pitivi

(pitivi:3828): Clutter-WARNING **: clutter_x11_set_use_argb_visual() can only be used before calling clutter_init()

(pitivi:3828): Clutter-WARNING **: clutter_x11_set_display() can only be used before calling clutter_init()

(pitivi:3828): Clutter-WARNING **: clutter_x11_disable_event_retrieval() can only be used before calling clutter_init()

(pitivi:3828): Clutter-WARNING **: clutter_disable_accessibility() can only be called before initializing Clutter.
Missing soft dependency:
- pycanberra not found on the system
    -> active les notifications sonores lorsque le rendu est terminé
Missing soft dependency:
- GnomeDesktop not found on the system
    -> file thumbnails provided by GNOME's thumbnailers
Erreur de segmentation

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-10-25 19:21:41

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=778520

The problem is fixed is v0.94-2 but jessie is on 0.93-4.2 sad

You could try to backport the stretch version yourself, that may work:

https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation

Warning: adding stretch, buster or sid repositories to your system will break it.

berniz95 · 2017-10-25 19:26:12

I only post the end of the output which contains the error reports :

% smartctl -a
[...]
ATA Error Count: 2
	CR = Command Register [HEX]
	FR = Features Register [HEX]
	SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
	SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
	CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
	CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
	DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
	DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
	ER = Error register [HEX]
	ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 32374 hours (1348 days + 22 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 c9 08 24 49

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  f9 00 01 c9 08 24 49 08      00:11:31.700  SET MAX ADDRESS [OBS-6]
  f8 ff 00 03 00 00 e0 08      00:11:31.600  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS [OBS-ACS-3]
  c8 ff 01 03 00 00 e0 08      00:11:31.600  READ DMA
  c8 ff 01 00 00 00 e0 08      00:11:31.300  READ DMA
  f9 00 01 c9 08 24 49 08      00:11:29.000  SET MAX ADDRESS [OBS-6]

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 32374 hours (1348 days + 22 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 c9 08 24 49

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  f9 00 01 c9 08 24 49 08      00:00:08.000  SET MAX ADDRESS [OBS-6]
  f8 ff 00 03 00 00 e0 08      00:00:08.000  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS [OBS-ACS-3]
  c8 ff 01 03 00 00 e0 08      00:00:08.000  READ DMA
  c8 ff 01 00 00 00 e0 08      00:00:08.000  READ DMA
  f9 00 01 c9 08 24 49 08      00:00:05.700  SET MAX ADDRESS [OBS-6]

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     32376         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%         1         -
# 3  Short captive       Completed without error       00%         0         -

Warning! SMART Selective Self-Test Log Structure error: invalid SMART checksum.
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Where can I find the RAM tester ? I guess I need the ISO image DVD I burnt.

(edit) I've just seen your latest post, I need some more time to investigate. Thanks a lot !

Last edited by berniz95 (2017-10-25 19:29:47)

tknomanzr · 2017-10-26 00:18:30

Pitivi did not work well in Jessie at all, to be quite honest. It was prone to frequent crashing. I was able to build one video with it by saving my work constantly. However, openshot ended up winning that round due to the fact that it was more stable than pitivi. I tested Pitivi in Stretch briefly. The crashing issues seemed to be better but I would not call it a thorough test.

ohnonot · 2017-10-26 05:35:44

clutter? canberra? sounds like this program is totally depending on gnome desktop (as was also mentioned in the error message)?

berniz95 · 2017-10-26 06:09:32

Actually I had quite a good fit with OpenShot. Yet to perform accurate editing, one needs to "see" the sound as diagrams in the timeline. The actual release leads to too many trials and errors before you cut where you want.
So Pitivi seems not an option. Too bad !
(edit) Flowblade provides on-demand waveforms, "bare" but sufficient for spotting sound transitions. So far it looks robust. Subject closed !

Last edited by berniz95 (2017-10-26 12:35:20)

martix · 2017-10-26 14:04:58

What about Kdenlive? Anyone with good/bad experiences?

brontosaurusrex · 2017-10-27 06:50:30

Kdenlive was usefull the last time I tried (probably the most interesting of them all, haven't tested Flowblade yet). Resolve 14 provides a free linux version (Worth testing if you have a modern nvidia). It has a very decent video editor now.
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc … ciresolve/ (p.s. Seems to be only certified for Red-Hat base).

Last edited by brontosaurusrex (2017-10-27 07:01:43)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-10-28 11:51:40

We don't really use [CLOSED] here and I'm sure the thread will be useful to others, would you mind removing the tag please?

EDIT: thanks!

Thread moved to Multimedia & Games

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2017-10-28 15:27:27)

berniz95 · 2018-04-16 16:33:20

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

We don't really use [CLOSED] here and I'm sure the thread will be useful to others

I agree ! I dig up this subject I had the foolish idea to close. I've been using Flowblade for a while now and I'm quite content with it. Computing transitions end up in core dumps every several times, but the autosave does great (once per minute).

Since I use it more and more I eventually bump into new problems : I thought batch render queueing was a great idea (I still do)... It's a standalone application that computes the renderings you push in the queue, while you fiddle with your next editing... (or sleep). Yet the app doesn't start : it displays an abort message instead.

See the post I wrote in the Flowblade forum.

So "Flowblade and MLT are way too old in Deuterium", not to mention GTK2...

Does anyone have an idea what could decide the batch render tool to show up ?

Last edited by berniz95 (2018-04-16 16:37:12)

johnraff · 2018-04-17 05:49:50

You might have better luck with the Debian Stretch packages (eg libmlt is 6.4.1-4), and the Helium beta iso is already pretty much usable, if you want to upgrade.

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