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#26 2017-08-04 20:19:03

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

brontosaurusrex wrote:

This would need some work (technically and to get colors right), but along this lines perhaps (if ferlauf is really wanted), wip
https://transfer.sh/vdKab/bunsen2.svg
https://transfer.sh/131Oov/bunsen.svg
It is quite interesting that such grain is even possible in vectorial pics.

Are you proposing these as possible wallpapers?


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#27 2017-08-04 20:24:05

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

No, not yet, this should be good enough for somebody to get the color scheme right.

edit: How about this five? < This would be my proposal, with version D4TL or D5TL as default. p.s. They won't render fine in browsers, you have to inkscape or nitrogen them.

Inkscape, oh inkscape, I'll be so happy not seeing you for a while.

color schemes: 2x sky-ish, 3x crunch-like, logo is flat enough to assume flat icons as well I think. p.s. I don't understand Debians sick-green palette, so I avoided it.

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scrot17473.th.pngscrot00508.th.png

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#28 2017-08-05 06:49:20

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

I'll weigh in... I prefer Ututo's original flame. It's our brand, I think we should stick with it for a default. The rest is window dressing (No, but you know what I mean.)

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#29 2017-08-05 09:06:40

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^ Agreed.  I don't mind having color as long as the option to have a dark/gray color is available and should be according to damo's post of desktop scrots.

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#30 2017-08-05 10:27:04

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

@hhh, No, what do you mean? (Actually I wrote 5 points there, wallpaper is just one of them)

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#31 2017-08-05 13:48:17

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

Colouring the flame? That's an idea! We are doing the periodic table, right? As all fans of  Periodic videos know all elements are associated with a colour of the flame when being burnt...
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#32 2017-08-05 17:25:18

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@Martin, just following on the damo's color/ferlauf theory smile So Helium could be burning orange/red?

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#33 2017-08-05 18:14:20

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

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...So Helium could be burning orange/red?

Gasp  yikes


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#34 2017-08-05 20:06:45

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

Not on my machine it won't!  At least not after the first 60 seconds.   And that's a health exaggeration on the time too!  lol  lol  tongue   cool


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#35 2017-08-05 20:28:05

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

Helium1
Helium2 -- a little OT, belongs to Cool random... rather than here.

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#36 2017-08-06 13:15:19

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

My personal favorite (no gradients)
bunsenE3.th.png
3440x1440, Svg source.

What would be the correct cc license wording to attribute ututo? (if it is cc license)

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#37 2017-08-06 14:08:26

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

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What would be the correct cc license wording to attribute ututo? (if it is cc license)

There is no license on the original dA page, but @ututo would have to say how that applies to the svg logo.


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#38 2017-08-06 15:48:38

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

brontosaurusrex wrote:

My personal favorite (no gradients)
https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2017/08/06/bunsenE3.th.png
3440x1440, Svg source.

What would be the correct cc license wording to attribute ututo? (if it is cc license)

Looks nice and surely will go well with a flat icon and window theme.

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#39 2017-08-06 21:54:50

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

I really like the idea of pre-configured setups to choose from BLOB. I like the Helium Beem theme and how it puts everything into harmony (background, gtk, obtheme, etc). But to be honest, I like the All-gray/CB style the most.

damo wrote:
brontosaurusrex wrote:

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What would be the correct cc license wording to attribute ututo? (if it is cc license)

There is no license on the original dA page, but @ututo would have to say how that applies to the svg logo.

I've no problem with anyone using, distributing or modifying that svg logo. License? Is it necessary?


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#40 2017-08-06 22:12:16

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

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I've no problem with anyone using, distributing or modifying that svg logo. License? Is it necessary?

It is for BL, which tries to follow Debian policy. I believe we want to use "Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike (CC-BY-SA) v3.0 v4.0", but I suggest you PM @johnraff, who is dealing with attributions and licenses for packaging.

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#41 2017-08-06 22:18:11

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If one is doing derivate work the non-license is/could be a problem, how about cc0 ?

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#42 2017-08-07 00:08:01

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maybe we can use the same licese as the 'original flame logo'
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/legal.html


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#43 2017-08-07 03:02:21

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^The licensing statement there refers to the content of the web page, not of BunsenLabs itself.

In fact CC seems to be basically for artwork (which this thread is about of course), but the majority of our code is under the GPL3 license.

Licensing can be quite complicated when re-using other peoples' work.
One tricky point is that a "no commercial use" condition in fact violates Debian licensing policy. https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses
We can see there that Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike (CC-BY-SA) v3.0/v4.0 is OK,
but Creative Commons Attribution-Non Commercial-Share Alike (CC-by-nc-sa) is not OK.

It is necessary that Debian can be used commercially, as long as the license conditions are followed. (The same applies to GPL for that matter.)

Of course BL isn't Debian, but our users might reasonably expect to be able to use it under the same conditions as Debian/GPL.

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#44 2017-08-08 01:08:24

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

Hi @qwertKI! Welcome to BL! Nice setup you got there. You should post'em in the screenshots thread as well  wink

@johnraff. So, it should be under CC-BY-SA v4.0 license then.


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#45 2017-08-08 01:42:11

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@ututo thanks! Is there a place to add a license on the original DeviantArt page? Otherwise, I wonder if you could just add a comment there? That way we've got something to point to if asked.


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#46 2017-08-08 01:54:52

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

johnraff wrote:

@ututo thanks! Is there a place to add a license on the original DeviantArt page? Otherwise, I wonder if you could just add a comment there? That way we've got something to point to if asked.

If you "Edit" the artwork page, right at the bottom are the "Publishing" options. The License can be set there.


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#47 2017-08-08 03:25:03

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

Now, here's a question. the bl fuzzy flame logo is a mix between the original bl-flame-logo and the Debian Open Use Logo. The wallpaper you see here is inspired by Ozgu Ozde's work (which is under GPL-2.0+ license). So, the way I see it, that wall (png file) is a derivative of all those sources. Can it still be licensed under CC-BY-SA? I can upload the svg file to dA and make it available from there.

damo wrote:

If you "Edit" the artwork page, right at the bottom are the "Publishing" options. The License can be set there.

thanks @damo!


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#48 2017-08-08 03:35:56

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^Licensing can be a pain...
It seems here that CC-BY-SA is consistent with all GPL licenses though. smile


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#49 2017-08-08 06:08:28

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

johnraff wrote:

It seems here that CC-BY-SA is consistent with all GPL licenses though

The link refers to GPLv3 and states that:

CC BY-SA 4.0 is one-way compatible with the GNU GPL version 3: this means you may license your modified versions of CC BY-SA 4.0 materials under GNU GPL version 3, but you may not relicense GPL 3 licensed works under CC BY-SA 4.0.

If the original images are GPL'd then so must any derivatives.


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#50 2017-08-09 01:26:21

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Re: Proposed Graphics for Helium

Slight tweak of the Beam background, with the proposed tint2-minimal, and Classic conky... (NB This is a BLOB scrot, so it has some jpg banding)

New beam-reduced-themes.th.jpgPrevious Helium_Beam.th.jpg

Personally I much prefer the more "vibrant" existing background. You guys are more than welcome to try and produce another version, but ATM the feeling among the devs is to stick with the original.

PS If you do post something here then please include the other elements of the theme (Helium-dev OB/gtk Beam, conky, tint2), so it is easier to judge.


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