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#1 2015-10-15 23:54:16

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pnmixer volume applet backport

The current volume applet for Hydrogen is Volti, and it sucks did what we asked of it, mostly, and it was in jessie. Meh, let's replace it with pnmixer, the applet in #!.

Here are my unofficial backports until @twoion officially backports it and we iron out the icon fix needed. They are built from this pnmixer PPA (Trusty version)...
https://launchpad.net/~landronimirc/+ar … tu/pnmixer

Download and Configuration

64 bit...
https://dl.orangedox.com/vaTeD5fGC5iYiH … _amd64.deb

32 bit...
https://dl.orangedox.com/jeiIt0lWcvA83z … 1_i386.deb

Install via gdebi or dpkg. If you run this as-is the applet icon will be black. To fix this, download this icon pack, extract it and replace the 5 icons in /usr/share/pnmixer/pixmaps with these...
https://dl.orangedox.com/YYc7qXVFlorjdk … ons.tar.gz

Replace volti with pnmixer in ~/.config/openbox/autostart and logout. The pnmixer icon will probably still be black, right-click, choose "Preferences" and set the icon theme to pnmixer. If all is well, purge volti. You should see a small drop in RAM usage, volti is a hog.

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#2 2015-10-16 06:28:16

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

Why not use volumeicon-alsa?

It works but the "Default" icon is black -- I've never looked into it 'cos I like grey panels but I'm sure you could fix that in a jiffy.


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#3 2015-10-16 08:06:41

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

^ I didn't even realize volumeicon-alsa was available in Jessie.  How did I miss that??


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#4 2015-10-16 08:20:27

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

Unfortunately, apart from the invisible black icons, volumeicon-alsa had another bug of popping up double notification bars when using the scrollwheel to change volume. That one is less easily fixed, perhaps, and the main reason for the switch to volti.

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#5 2015-10-16 14:55:47

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

johnraff wrote:

bug of popping up double notification bars when using the scrollwheel to change volume

Pic or it didn't happen. RC1, scrolling while hovering over volumeicon creates 2 (xfce-notifyd) notifications...

Screenshot_10162015_10_50_40_AM.jpg

This might be related to the alsa-unmutes-but-pulse-doesn't bug, the levels in the scrot aren't in sync.

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#6 2015-10-16 16:05:53

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

Is it really wise to add pnmixer since it is an Ubuntu ppa and not in the "Jessie" repos?


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#7 2015-10-16 16:17:04

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

dolly wrote:

Is it really wise to add pnmixer since it is an Ubuntu ppa and not in the "Jessie" repos?

It isn't a PPA, but is a deb package built from those sources, to be compatible with jessie. That is how backports works.It is because it isn't in the Stable repos that it has been backported.


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#8 2015-10-16 16:28:22

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

Ok I see, thanks for clarifying. Googled it, but not enough evidentely.  big_smile


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#9 2015-10-16 16:44:46

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

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Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates) in a stable environment so that they will run without new libraries (whenever it is possible) on a Debian stable distribution

Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!

It is therefore recommended to select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports.

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#10 2015-10-16 19:16:47

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

damo wrote:
dolly wrote:

Is it really wise to add pnmixer since it is an Ubuntu ppa and not in the "Jessie" repos?

It isn't a PPA, but is a deb package built from those sources, to be compatible with jessie.

Right. I could have used the pnmixer git source and built a Debian package from that, but the PPA uses the same source and has already been "Debianized"

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#11 2015-10-16 20:23:20

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^ About Dolly's question; is the executable file pnmixer that goes in /usr/bin independent of Ubuntu ppa, if it gets built from git source?

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#12 2015-10-16 20:25:25

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

Of course. It's independent of the PPA even if it's built from the PPA, as these files are. But at least the package will be recognized by apt, so you can remove it via apt and if a version comes into Debian jessie with a newer version number it'll get upgraded during apt-get upgrade.

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#13 2015-10-16 20:27:16

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Good to know. Thanks.

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#14 2015-10-16 20:36:30

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

^^I added a bit to my answer.

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#15 2015-10-16 21:59:10

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^^ Well, Okay.

Most times, I don't trust these so-called upgrades. That's why I block the access to Apt for some apps. If the app works, then let it work. In a way, I have a lean mean system that way. I was using alsa mixer and gnome icon. Tint2 stays in autohide mode all the time. Laptop's red light comes up too, when the battery is 20%.

Thanks anyway for the info on Pnmixer.

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#16 2015-10-16 23:28:22

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

ostrolek wrote:

Most times, I don't trust these so-called upgrades.

Foolish, but that's discussion for another thread.

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#17 2015-10-24 09:26:16

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

hhh wrote:

The current volume applet for Hydrogen is Volti, and it sucks did what we asked of it, mostly, and it was in jessie. Meh, let's replace it with pnmixer, the applet in #!.

+1...I use the pnmixer deb from CrunchBang on all of my BL installs.

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#18 2015-10-25 23:21:01

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

I also use the #! pnmixer deb (having tried and hated volti).
hhh: is this version a significant improvement on the #! version? (I  don't want to replace it unless your current version is significantly better, and I'm feeling too lazy at the moment to just try it. Please don't tell me not to be lazy... my excuse is that I am an old man with two teenage kids, and energy comes slowly these days.)

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#19 2015-10-27 01:43:02

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

I don't recall what version of pnmixer was compiled for #!, but you should use this backport as it was compiled against jessie and therefore may include jessie security patches.

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#20 2015-10-27 04:51:57

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

@hhh  What can I say? If I had my thinking hat on, I would have realised that.
Will update now.  Cheers

Edit: It was version 0.5.1, btw.

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#21 2015-10-28 22:23:34

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

hhh wrote:

I don't recall what version of pnmixer was compiled for #!, but you should use this backport as it was compiled against jessie and therefore may include jessie security patches.

Last time I checked, pnmixer hadn't been updated, so the #! version was the same as the last release.

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#22 2015-10-28 22:29:49

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

dhalgren says it was 0.5.1 in #!, the version I backported is 0.6.1-1 (see the Launchpad link in the OP).

-edit- more info...
https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/releases

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#23 2015-10-28 22:47:52

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

@hhh:  Thank you for the update.  Also, I just noticed the blurb in your OP about ironing out the icon issues.  I just use the pnmixer icons...looks good to me.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 5039#p5039

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#24 2015-10-28 23:01:10

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

Yes, the #! version I used was downloaded from the #! repository before it went offline, and it was 0.5.1
The update works beautifully.  I experienced no issues with icons, which may be because I am using the tweaked vertex icons. (I certainly have done nothing special with icons except find a set I love.)
Thanks for the update!

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#25 2015-10-28 23:02:29

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Re: pnmixer volume applet backport

The icon issue only effects BunsenLabs RC1 and earlier, it's an issue with our version of Faenza icons, which are the same as the #! Faenza icons, not having the right status icon set. This will be fixed in a future update. This didn't effect #! because corenominal packaged pnmixer with the correct icons, so my workaround duplicates that.

Another workaround is to install Faenza icons from Debian, but it saves disk space if you just use the few icons I've included.

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