Gtx 970 and screen tearing

pawel2k · 2016-12-25 19:51:55

Hello

Just installed Bunsenlabs, so far i love this distro, but im getting a little screen tearing, for example when i scroll webpage down (Chrome), there is little screen tearing at the top.

My GPU: GTX 970
GPU driver v: 367.57

Any ideas?

Thanks

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-25 20:03:46

Try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NV … en_tearing

EDIT: welcome to the forums!

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-12-25 20:04:18)

pawel2k · 2016-12-25 21:21:06

I did some research and it looks like by using this method you will have problem with second display, also it might reduce performance, and afaik broke system if i upgrade my kernel.

Isn't there a better way to do that?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-25 21:36:24

You could try using the compositor instead.

Edit the file at /usr/bin/bl-compositor (as root!) and change the EXECXCOMP+= line to this:

    EXECXCOMP+='--backend glx --vsync opengl-mswc'

Then save the file and restart the compositor, either by running:

bl-compositor --restart

Or by using:

Openbox Main Menu → Preferences → Compositor → Restart Compositing

If this doesn't help much then you could try updating to the newer version of compton by adding the BunsenLabs jessie-backports repository:

sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen-backports.list <<!
deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian jessie-backports main
!

Then update the package database & install:

sudo apt update
sudo apt install compton/jessie-backports

https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repoidx.html … ts-compton

pawel2k · 2016-12-25 21:36:53

Ok i followed this guide:

http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/h … g-in-xfce/

And it fixed the problem, but my FPS are locked at 60fps now which isn't really satisfying me

EDIT: i wrote this post and already tearing happening again...

Last edited by pawel2k (2016-12-25 21:37:16)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-25 21:39:33

pawel2k wrote:

Ok i followed this guide:
http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/h … g-in-xfce/

That does pretty much exactly the same thing as I advised in my last post but adds a potentially risky PPA rather than using the official BunsenLabs repositories.

I *do not* recommend using PPAs in BunsenLabs, they are *not* compatible and may cause major problems.

pawel2k · 2016-12-25 21:42:48

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

pawel2k wrote:
Ok i followed this guide:
http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/h … g-in-xfce/
That does pretty much exactly the same thing as I advised in my last post but adds a potentially risky PPA rather than using the official BunsenLabs repositories.
I *do not* recommend using PPAs in BunsenLabs, they are *not* compatible and may cause major problems.

Ok for now no screen tearing, how can i check if my FPS aren't locked at 60 fps though?

thank you

pawel2k · 2016-12-26 14:48:32

Screen tearing still exists, i guess Nvidia drivers arent best for Linux since i have the problem on multiple DE's

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-26 15:16:17

Yes, could be.

Have you tried nouveau?

Apparently that's pretty good these days.

damo · 2016-12-26 15:55:19

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Yes, could be.
Have you tried nouveau?
Apparently that's pretty good these days.

The trouble with nouveau is that AFAIK you can't use CUDA for gpu rendering with Blender

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-26 16:15:17

damo wrote:

you can't use CUDA for gpu rendering with Blender

Have you tried OpenCL?

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/nvidia-opencl-common

https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/OpenCL

pawel2k · 2016-12-26 16:56:11

I have switched to Ubuntu , made minimal install with Gnome3 and got 0 tearing, also Steam works perfect, smooth animations etc.

Last edited by pawel2k (2016-12-26 16:56:34)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-26 17:08:54

pawel2k wrote:

Gnome3 and got 0 tearing

Ah yes, GNOME's compositing is first rate -- you could have just installed that desktop in BL and saved yourself some time

also Steam works perfect

Steam works perfect in BL, I think your issues were PEBKAC in nature

Anyway, glad you got it sorted

damo · 2016-12-26 19:51:07

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

damo wrote:
you can't use CUDA for gpu rendering with Blender
Have you tried OpenCL?
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/nvidia-opencl-common
https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/OpenCL

blender.org wrote:

CUDA
Nvidia CUDA is supported for GPU rendering with Nvidia graphics cards. We support graphics cards starting from GTX 4xx (computing capability 2.0).
Cycles requires recent Nvidia drivers to be installed, on all operating systems.
OpenCL
OpenCL is supported for GPU rendering with AMD graphics cards. We only support graphics cards with GCN architecture (HD 7xxx and above).

Horizon_Brave · 2016-12-26 22:48:25

pawel2k wrote:

I have switched to Ubuntu , made minimal install with Gnome3 and got 0 tearing, also Steam works perfect, smooth animations etc.

Sad to see ya switch to Ubuntu though! Is this a case of Compton ( BL's screen compositor) not being able to handle the support for the GPU in use?

damo · 2016-12-26 22:53:13

Horizon_Brave wrote:

... Is this a case of Compton ( BL's screen compositor) not being able to handle the support for the GPU in use?

More like kernel etc. I am running a Bunsenified Mint on a new laptop + nvidia (Mint worked OOTB, Ubuntu didn't, I gave up with BL!), with Openbox and Compton. The compositor is fine

pawel2k · 2016-12-27 00:57:04

I don't see Linux gaining popularity if such basic stuff is broken =/

Gtx 970 is a very popular GPU so it should work OOTB, but later on when i buy a laptop i will for sure install BT again

Cheers all

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-27 01:03:22

pawel2k wrote:

I don't see Linux gaining popularity if such basic stuff is broken =/

NVIDIA's support for the open source community is appalling, IMO.

If you want to use GNU/Linux then I would recommend Intel or AMD, the latter now offer their GPU driver freely (as in speech):

https://packages.debian.org/jessie-back … deo-amdgpu

pawel2k · 2016-12-27 01:13:22

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

pawel2k wrote:
I don't see Linux gaining popularity if such basic stuff is broken =/
NVIDIA's support for the open source community is appalling, IMO.
If you want to use GNU/Linux then I would recommend Intel or AMD, the latter now offer their GPU driver freely (as in speech):
https://packages.debian.org/jessie-back … deo-amdgpu

And yet i have seen so many people say how amazing Nvidia drivers are (even better than Windows!)
Im wondering why this problem dont exist in Gnome3, maybe there is something else than compton that i could try?

Ubuntu with Gnome3 takes like 5x more ram than BT so it would be nice to get it working.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-12-27 01:43:01

pawel2k wrote:

Im wondering why this problem dont exist in Gnome3

As I said, their compositing has always been very good.

The best option is always the native video driver method but that doesn't seem to work for you

Is your GNOME desktop using Wayland?

That offers the best desktop experience for GNU/Linux at the moment, IMO.

Also, to cut down on RAM usage in GNOME be sure to disable all the tracking & indexing features.

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