You are not logged in.

#1741 2022-05-10 19:31:03

Colonel Panic
Member
Registered: 2018-11-13
Posts: 547

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

It defaults to oprnrc instead of systemd is what it does different from Arch. I don't mind the extra effort given that.

Besides that significant attraction, their forum (Gentoo) is WAY less up-tight than the Arch one. I read some posts, saw how they treat n00bs who ask newbie questions on the Arch forum, and on the basis of that treatment decided I will NEVER install Arch.

Fair enough, although there is an Arch variant that defaults to OpenRC too. I haven't seen the Arch forum but I agree it used to be bad when I was browsing it in about 2010 (the Salix one was too, though it seems to have gotten better since).

I don't usually use vanilla Arch anyway, but one of its derivatives such as Manjaro, Mabox (which is based on Manjaro) or Arch Labs. At the moment I'm posting from Mabox (with a handful of modifications that I mentioned earlier in this thread, it works well for me).

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2022-05-11 07:01:29)

Offline

#1742 2022-05-10 20:20:53

hhh
Colonel Robert Neville
From: That honky paradise, brother.
Registered: 2015-09-17
Posts: 13,069
Website

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

I want it on Debian stable ASAP.

Not as new, but close enough...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 85#p122385


You know, you used to be a nice guy once.

Offline

#1743 2022-05-11 13:38:55

Nili
Member
From: $HOME/♫♪
Registered: 2015-09-30
Posts: 1,045
Website

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Fedora 36. This is the 3rd upgraded version from 34>35>36. A fine OS to me.


Fedora GNOME / Devuan XFCE
Roots heritage #!

Offline

#1744 2022-05-11 15:22:47

DeepDayze
Like sands through an hourglass...
From: In Linux Land
Registered: 2017-05-28
Posts: 1,543

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Pop!-OS seems promising too especially the latest version coming based on Ubuntu 22.04.


Real Men Use Linux

Offline

#1745 2022-05-11 18:19:39

hhh
Colonel Robert Neville
From: That honky paradise, brother.
Registered: 2015-09-17
Posts: 13,069
Website

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Nili wrote:

Fedora 36. This is the 3rd upgraded version from 34>35>36. A fine OS to me.

Screenshot or it didn't happen.


You know, you used to be a nice guy once.

Offline

#1746 2022-05-12 06:51:25

Nili
Member
From: $HOME/♫♪
Registered: 2015-09-30
Posts: 1,045
Website

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

Screenshot or it didn't happen.

It happened, It happened thankfully well upgrading from 35 to v36. Thanks smile


Fedora GNOME / Devuan XFCE
Roots heritage #!

Offline

#1747 2022-05-12 11:18:48

Bearded_Blunder
Dodging A Bullet
From: Seat: seat0; vc7
Registered: 2015-09-29
Posts: 978

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

Fair enough, although there is an Arch variant that defaults to OpenRC too.

Indeed there is, allegedly, but if you try to set Artix up using LUKS/LVM or even plain LUKS Calamares simply crashes at the partitioning stage. If you use the non-gui install you're back with the same pain as Gentoo, but with poorer and less detailed instructions.

I can't actually comment if Artix is any good or not, since I can't get it to install in a secure fashion, not that I'm prepared to try very hard either.  I've literally never had a successful install of any distro that uses that abortion as its installer, Why people rave about it defeats me, it'll be as dark a day if Debian switch as it was when they switched to systemd.

I'm done with attempts to troubleshoot Calamares, maybe I'll try again when that mess actually works instead of randomly closing / crashing when you click next.. which if I recall it also does at later stages if you pick a partition layout that doesn't crash it.

So back to fighting Gentoo it is.. chroot back in for the Nth time & try to figure out what step I missed getting it to unlock the encryption & mount the logical volumes at boot.  I'll figure it out eventually, I've only got 5 browser tabs open yet, I generally seem to need to have at least 8 & sometimes a dozen for installing Gentoo.


Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall not be disappointed...
If there's an obscure or silly way to break it, but you don't know what.. Just ask me

Online

#1748 2022-05-12 22:44:34

jeffreyC
Member
Registered: 2019-09-07
Posts: 115

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

MX Linux wrote their own installer to avoid using Calamares, when you stop and think about how small the MX team is that tells you something.

Offline

#1749 2022-05-13 00:44:45

DeepDayze
Like sands through an hourglass...
From: In Linux Land
Registered: 2017-05-28
Posts: 1,543

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

jeffreyC wrote:

MX Linux wrote their own installer to avoid using Calamares, when you stop and think about how small the MX team is that tells you something.

I have MX-21 on a spare drive and the install was painless and error free. Definitely much better than Calamares. When I tried a distro that used Calamares I pre-partition the drive beforehand so as not to use the partitioner in the installer. Just picked the mount points basically that was it.


Real Men Use Linux

Offline

#1750 2022-05-17 15:53:42

Colonel Panic
Member
Registered: 2018-11-13
Posts: 547

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Just installed the latest version of Salix (15.0 alpha 2), and although it's early days yet everything seems to be working well though sound needed a bit of fiddling with from the "Settings" panel before it could be gotten to work (currently listening to Roxy Music's "Sea Breezes", which sounds great).

It works on a similar concept to Zenwalk; one application per task, so Firefox for web browsing, LibreOffice for the office suite, Ristretto to view images etc.

Must admit I'm not enamoured with the new XFce theme (Adwaita) though I daresay you could add new ones. Also, is Claws Mail really a better option than Thunderbird?

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2022-05-17 16:47:37)

Offline

#1751 2022-05-17 17:01:14

PackRat
jgmenu user Numero Uno
Registered: 2015-10-02
Posts: 1,605

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

Just installed the latest version of Salix (15.0 alpha 2), and although it's early days yet everything seems to be working

Good to see SalixOS is still going. Is alpha-2 released as a live image?


You must unlearn what you have learned.
    -- yoda

Offline

#1752 2022-05-17 20:03:58

Bearded_Blunder
Dodging A Bullet
From: Seat: seat0; vc7
Registered: 2015-09-29
Posts: 978

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

ColonelPanic wrote:

Just installed the latest version of Salix (15.0 alpha 2), ...

I'm still pegging away at Gentoo..

Jobs: 61 of 64 complete, 1 running Load avg: 10.7 10.9 9.7

It's looking like it's making the old Core2 work it's two cores pretty hard..

beardy@GD8000-Gentoo ~$ genlop -c

 Currently merging 62 out of 64

 * dev-qt/qtwebengine-5.25.3_p20220406

     current merge time: 1 day, 5 hours, 27 minutes and 35 seconds.
     ETA: unknown.

That's just the (still incomplete) time for that ONE depend for Calibre.

Calibre is taking longer than LibreOffice or Firefox did, & neither of those was exactly fast...

I must be insane putting Gentoo on old hardware with only 4 GB of RAM and a spinning drive.


Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall not be disappointed...
If there's an obscure or silly way to break it, but you don't know what.. Just ask me

Online

#1753 2022-05-17 20:41:37

Colonel Panic
Member
Registered: 2018-11-13
Posts: 547

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

PackRat wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

Just installed the latest version of Salix (15.0 alpha 2), and although it's early days yet everything seems to be working

Good to see SalixOS is still going. Is alpha-2 released as a live image?

Not at this stage, no; it's install only at the moment. Also, LILO is the only choice of boot manager offered right now and Grub isn't an option.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2022-05-18 09:19:01)

Offline

#1754 2022-05-25 02:18:55

Colonel Panic
Member
Registered: 2018-11-13
Posts: 547

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've just installed Ultramarine 36, a distro which is based on Fedora and which describes itself as a successor to Korora (which was also based on Fedora, and which I used to like).

It uses Budgie as its window manager, looks good and works well enough but it doesn't come with a particularly wide range of software for a 1.9 GB download (there's no E-mail program included, for example).

Offline

#1755 2022-05-28 15:49:23

DeepDayze
Like sands through an hourglass...
From: In Linux Land
Registered: 2017-05-28
Posts: 1,543

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

I've just installed Ultramarine 36, a distro which is based on Fedora and which describes itself as a successor to Korora (which was also based on Fedora, and which I used to like).

It uses Budgie as its window manager, looks good and works well enough but it doesn't come with a particularly wide range of software for a 1.9 GB download (there's no E-mail program included, for example).

I am sure that this distro is compatible with Fedora's repos so you should be able to easily install any programs you desire after installation.

Man I remember Kororaa...got to play with it but now the ISO image I had of it is lost to time as the hard drive I saved the ISO to is long gone to the graveyard

Last edited by DeepDayze (2022-05-28 15:50:36)


Real Men Use Linux

Offline

#1756 2022-05-28 23:55:58

PackRat
jgmenu user Numero Uno
Registered: 2015-10-02
Posts: 1,605

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous


You must unlearn what you have learned.
    -- yoda

Offline

#1757 2022-05-30 18:04:18

Colonel Panic
Member
Registered: 2018-11-13
Posts: 547

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I've just installed Ultramarine 36, a distro which is based on Fedora and which describes itself as a successor to Korora (which was also based on Fedora, and which I used to like).

It uses Budgie as its window manager, looks good and works well enough but it doesn't come with a particularly wide range of software for a 1.9 GB download (there's no E-mail program included, for example).

I am sure that this distro is compatible with Fedora's repos so you should be able to easily install any programs you desire after installation.

Man I remember Kororaa...got to play with it but now the ISO image I had of it is lost to time as the hard drive I saved the ISO to is long gone to the graveyard

Thanks for the info. I've got most of what I want already installed (in Ultramarine) so it's not really a problem, but I might add some Fedora repos later and see what else is available.

I don't think I have any Kororaa ISOs left either. I burnt the last one I had to a DVD and must have gotten rid of it during one of my clear outs of Linux DVDs.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2022-05-30 20:04:54)

Offline

#1758 2022-06-10 19:26:41

Martin
Member
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2015-10-01
Posts: 639
Website

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Nili wrote:
hhh wrote:

Screenshot or it didn't happen.

It happened, It happened thankfully well upgrading from 35 to v36. Thanks smile

I decided to give Fedora a spin on a virtual machine earlier in the week. I had no luck. The live session boots but all I get in the end is an empty and dead desktop. I get a blue-grey background and the top bar with clock, shut down button etc but nothing works.

Any ideas on what might be the issue?
I am using Virtualbox. I have used VB for trying out both Linux distros and BSDs and have never seen this before.

/Martin


"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back."
Piet Hein

Offline

#1759 2022-06-10 22:37:12

Colonel Panic
Member
Registered: 2018-11-13
Posts: 547

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Just updated Siduction, a 1,036 MB total download. I've installed i3 on it, with which it works very well.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2022-06-10 22:39:56)

Offline

#1760 2022-06-11 07:39:34

unklar
Back to the roots 1.9
From: #! BL
Registered: 2015-10-31
Posts: 1,762

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

Just updated Siduction, a 1,036 MB total download. I've installed i3 on it, with which it works very well.

Madness!  yikes

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB